The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hugo Boss]

the image is not accurate, because goku and Gohan can't sense Basil, so your downplay Don't work here

Which image? What is this comment about? Sensing someone's energy is not the only way to guess strength. Once Basil showed his skills they could get a notion of how strong he is. The only thing they got wrong is that Kuririn is better than they thought, which is actually implied in this episode.

Basil still stomped krillin in that image training krillin had to relied on techniques and tactics in that fight and couldn't even scratch basil when the dust was cleared and no piccolo did not get nerfed so get that crap outta of here.

The point is that I can't visualize Kuririn trading blows with Perfect Cell, even with strategy, and it's entirely up to me to decide what I think and discuss. Don't pretend you are in the position to make such demand.

[dragonball0900]

Goten and Trunks are able to do feats that Android 18 could never do.

Such as?

And Android 18 already knew that the kids were SSJs, even before the ki blast was thrown, she would know that they were strong. But instead, she was shocked, that implies that she was indeed scared of their power, and that was a suppressed ki blast from Trunks, if it was at full power then I might agree with you, but it wasn't full power.

Ya, but as we know ssj doesn't automatically mean you are a certain strength. I'm pretty sure anyone would be surprised that kids could casually shoot nuke level blasts out. And I believe this is something that is an opinion. I personally don't think there is enough info to say for certain who is stronger.

Trunks and Goten being able to do something against Vegeta and Gohan respectively. As well as the ki blast against Android 18. The ki blast was suppressed, Trunks even said he didn't want to kill her, the story pretty much tell us how strong these kids are, and it just seems that they are much stronger than what Android 18 can do.

So with how the past couple episodes have played out and the likely possibility that all these years we've severely underated the humans then...

Krillin and Tien vs Goten and Trunks

I'm still going to say that Goten and Trunks win, even in base. But if Krillin and Tien use their best techniques, they are able to defeat them, as long as they are not transformed into SSJs, since in those forms, they are nearly as strong as probably ASSJ Vegeta who fought Semi Perfect Cell.

Current Krillin vs Perfect Cell

Perfect Cell stomps easily.

Krillin vs Buu arc SSJ Vegito

Well Krillin did push back SSJB Goku's Kamehameha which makes him at least SSJG-tier which is universe level in power... So be probabaly stomps Vegito with ease tbh

Goku was holding back. Krillin is finger flicked by Vegito here.

Fights:

SSJ Goten vs SSJ Trunks [Cell games].
SSJ Trunks vs SSJ Vegeta [Cell games].
Android 18 vs Basil.
Present Zamasu vs Pure Boo.
Initial Android 20 vs Base Goku [Boo arc].
Initial Android 19 vs Base Gohan [Boo arc].

- Trunks wins, he is too strong and is more skilled.

- Vegeta wins, for the same reasons as the one above.

- Basil wins since he's able to fight Good Buu.

- I think Zamasu is able to win. The SSJ2 Goku who fought him is much stronger than his Buu arc version.

- Android 20 wins since I have him stronger than Frieza.

- Android 19 wins since I have him stronger than Frieza.

Super Saiyan Blue Vegito vs Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black

Vegito wins, obviously.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Vegito wins, obviously.

However, Black can get Zenkai Boosts before he dies, and can go toe to toe, if not, get even stronger. So we'll give Black a slight edge because of Zenkai Boosts, but remove the Zenkai Boosts, Vegito would wreck him.

[Noah]

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

I think a hypothetical SSJ4 Gohan would be stronger than his 'Ultimate' form, although isn't SSJ4 about one having its potential full released? So would SSJ4 really affect Gohan battle power?

[Gog]

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

I think a hypothetical SSJ4 Gohan would be stronger than his 'Ultimate' form, although isn't SSJ4 about one having its potential full released? So would SSJ4 really affect Gohan battle power?

The problem with that is Unlock Potential unlocks your power way, way, way beyond your full power.

New battles!

Freeza(Namek Saga) runs the Anime Gauntlet

Freeza V Edward Elric, Alphonese Elric and Scar

Freeza V Monkey D. Luffy and Zoro

Freeza V Naruto

Freeza V Toriko

[nickzambuto]

Say what? Freeza takes them all at once. Maybe Toriko would require him to transform.

[pacz360]

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

I think a hypothetical SSJ4 Gohan would be stronger than his 'Ultimate' form, although isn't SSJ4 about one having its potential full released? So would SSJ4 really affect Gohan battle power?

The problem with that is Unlock Potential unlocks your power way, way, way beyond your full power.

New battles!

Freeza(Namek Saga) runs the Anime Gauntlet

Freeza V Edward Elric, Alphonese Elric and Scar

Freeza V Monkey D. Luffy and Zoro

Freeza V Naruto

Freeza V Toriko

Toriko the only one that can give him a good fight the rest die horribly.

[Hellspawn28]

Goku V Samurai Jack.

I would imagine Jack is at 22nd Tenkachi Budokai level from what I can remember. I think Goku after his fight with Piccolo Daimao would win.

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan vs someone equal in strength with him

Vegeta vs someone equal in strength with him

What I want judge is if they are skilled enough to beat such an opponent

[Gog]

Gohan vs someone equal in strength with him

Vegeta vs someone equal in strength with him

What I want judge is if they are skilled enough to beat such an opponent

Gohan gets easily stomped by Freeza who is not only more skilled than him, but much more durable. Also if Freeza is about to lose he'll blow up the planet.

Cmon that's unfair Goku is much, much more skilled than Vegeta.

[Vegetes]

Gohan vs someone equal in strength with him

Vegeta vs someone equal in strength with him

What I want judge is if they are skilled enough to beat such an opponent

Gohan gets easily stomped by Freeza who is not only more skilled than him, but much more durable. Also if Freeza is about to lose he'll blow up the planet.

Cmon that's unfair Goku is much, much more skilled than Vegeta.

Sad how Vegeta never Will, or has been truly equal or able to beat Goku...

Equal in power:

Piccolo vs Vegeta(current).

[Ki Breaker]

Gohan vs someone equal in strength with him

Vegeta vs someone equal in strength with him

What I want judge is if they are skilled enough to beat such an opponent

Gohan gets easily stomped by Freeza who is not only more skilled than him, but much more durable. Also if Freeza is about to lose he'll blow up the planet.

Cmon that's unfair Goku is much, much more skilled than Vegeta.

Sad how Vegeta never Will, or has been truly equal or able to beat Goku...

Equal in power:

Piccolo vs Vegeta(current).

Piccolo, piccolo has only one way to get stonger which is by improvement, which he has been doing all these years, vegeta was focusing mainly on power all this time..

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Buu (Buutenks) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gohan (GT).

2) Golden Frieza vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta vs. Present Zamasu.

3) Jiren vs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku Black.

[spoiler]1) Raviel Franklin "Ray" Shuzen.

2) https://m.facebook.com/OFFICIALDBAFITALIA/?__tn__=C[/spoiler]

[Berserker1921]

1) Super Buu (Buutenks) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gohan (GT).

2) Golden Frieza vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta vs. Present Zamasu.

3) Jiren vs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku Black.

[spoiler]1) Raviel Franklin "Ray" Shuzen.

2) https://m.facebook.com/OFFICIALDBAFITALIA/?__tn__=C[/spoiler]

1. Gohan destroys him. They claim he kept up with his training and the ssj4 boost. Gohan wins easily.

2. Golden Frieza demolishes Zamasu. Which I have as a high tier ssj2. However ssj4 gogeta destroys Frieza. Personally I rank Frieza to be more or less Omega Shenron.

3. Ssj4 doesn't give that much of a boost. Even with Black's broken zenkai boost. He will be under disadvantaged initially. Jiren who is said to be stronger then current goku with kaioken. Jiren destroys him quickly and easily.

[Gog]

1) Super Buu (Buutenks) vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gohan (GT).

2) Golden Frieza vs. Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta vs. Present Zamasu.

3) Jiren vs. Super Saiyan 4 Goku Black.

[spoiler]1) Raviel Franklin "Ray" Shuzen.

2) https://m.facebook.com/OFFICIALDBAFITALIA/?__tn__=C[/spoiler]

Buutenks easily crushes the Super Saiyan 4 Gohan, who's weaker than he was as SS4 Gohan.

Golden Freeza blinks and annihilates both of them.

Jiren easily defeats Goku Black, who's weaker than he was as a Super Saiyan Rose.

[Berserker1921]

Ultimate Gohan V SSJ4 Gohan

I think a hypothetical SSJ4 Gohan would be stronger than his 'Ultimate' form, although isn't SSJ4 about one having its potential full released? So would SSJ4 really affect Gohan battle power?

The problem with that is Unlock Potential unlocks your power way, way, way beyond your full power.

New battles!

Freeza(Namek Saga) runs the Anime Gauntlet

Freeza V Edward Elric, Alphonese Elric and Scar

Freeza V Monkey D. Luffy and Zoro

Freeza V Naruto

Freeza V Toriko

Frieza wins easily in his first form. None except maybe Toriko are moon busters. Even with potential unlocked if I were to give them power levels. Torino would be maybe 200,000. Nothing Frieza can't handle. While the rest can't reach 50,000. Frieza wins

[Berserker1921]

Goku (current) runs the anime gauntlet

1. Sailor moon (full power)
2. Vampire Hunter D (novel version)
3. Seiya (god cloth)
4. Dark Schneider (Full power)

Goku vs these anime heroes. (Equal power levels. Just using skills and martial arts. All blood Lusted)

1. Yujiro Hanama (Baki)
2. Hayato Fūrinji (Kenchi, History)
3. Kenshiro (FoTNS)

[Gog]

Gowasu V Saiyan Saga Vegeta

[Steven Bloodriver]

Goku (current) runs the anime gauntlet

1. Sailor moon (full power)
2. Vampire Hunter D (novel version)
3. Seiya (god cloth)
4. Dark Schneider (Full power)

Goku vs these anime heroes. (Equal power levels. Just using skills and martial arts. All blood Lusted)

1. Yujiro Hanama (Baki)
2. Hayato Fūrinji (Kenchi, History)
3. Kenshiro (FoTNS)

1) Goku, as a Saiyan Beyond God, would be infinitely more powerful than anyone in Sailor Moon.

2) Goku just powering up into a Chou Super Saiyan would make short work of the Vampire Hunter D Novel Continuity's greatest threats for our hero.

3) Absolutely none of Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac's characters could hold a candle to a Super Saiyan God, much less one on the level of Goku.

4) Super Saiyan Blue Goku would be more than enough to deal with the over 400 year old Wizard.

5) Goku's unsurpassed combat skill would be Yujiro's downfall. Not to mention, I doubt Yujiro could stand up to the countless Universe-destroying techniques of Goku, the true strongest on our Earth.

6) Goku would abuse the Mafūba on Hayato Fūrinji and send the latter into a Massive Black Hole.

7) Seeing how dangerous of an opponent Kenshiro could potentially be for him, Goku would end him with an Instant Kamehameha at point blank range.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Gowasu V Saiyan Saga Vegeta

The One Hand of Revelation of Gowasu wouldn't even leave behind a stain of the very smug Vegeta.