Chapter 307, page 6.TheMikado wrote:When did Old Kai say this?
Goku: Th-This'll make me stronger?
Old Kaioshin: Gohan puts the other one on his right ear. Then you combine into one warrior. Just like fusion.
Goku: For real?!
Old Kaioshin: But it'll work even better! Through generations of Kaioshin this has been treasured!
I mean, I'm making this assumption because we know from Gotenks that a draining transformation severely cuts into the Fusion time, and in the manga continuity SSB is a much more draining transformation than it is in the anime.TheMikado wrote:Apparently they would have the same exact problem. We have no idea how long one would last versus the other now that the mechanisms on how Potara earrings have been changed.Kanassa wrote:I'd be interested in seeing Gogeta, as long as the potara's are for some reason destroyed or something. But, one problem is, in the manga continuity wouldn't the Fusion Dance be completely useless in God form? Like, it would last no where near the amount of time Anime Vegito lasted?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Gogeta is many times weaker than Vegetto, so why would I want to see an inferior fusion instead of the most powerful Super Saiyan Blue against a mad all-powerful immortal god?
Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Doctor. wrote:What if the Genkisword happens, but this time Trunks gathers Ki from ALL OF TIME AND SPACE?! WOULDN'T THAT BE COOL, GUYS?ekrolo2 wrote:I fully expect a Gogeta inclusion to get a level of hate comparable to Toyotaro not copying the manga and stacking KK on top of Blue. And fuck this fandom if they throw a fit over the Genki-Sword getting cut, that was an awful, awful climax and deserves to get removed.Kanassa wrote: You're vastly overestimating the hate this would get for such a small reason, you'd more likely find a shit ton of hate if Trunks's scene in the climax isn't included
If Toriyama put Vegetto in his script, then that's what he has to do. He doesn't have full control over this story.Grimlock wrote:For all we know and for all the possibilites, Toyotaro can also fuse Trunks and Goku or coming up with Vegenks, the chances are smaller than Vegetto and even smaller than Gogeta, but that's it. As I said once, bringing Vegetto and not doing anything different with him would be a waste, and it'll get my hate for doing the obvious and not adding anything worth and/or cool. Look at how many choices Toyotaro has here, he better picks one that will actually bring something different, something that will make Dragon Ball to leave the comfort zone for a change even if it doesn't cause an impact at the end, like in the anime.
With so many differences now, anything is possible. Also, merging them is not a plot point going by the anime, since it served no purpose at all and didn't have an effect at the end of the battle.OLKv3 wrote:If Toriyama put Vegetto in his script, then that's what he has to do. He doesn't have full control over this story.
But their fingers can still meet each other, which is the height's purpose.batistabus wrote:1. Goku and Vegeta are not close in height.
But Vegeta saw Goten and Trunks fusing, if Vegeta is a good observer, he knows as much as Goku.batistabus wrote:3. Vegeta doesn't know how to use Fusion. He has never practiced it, and any anxiety would get in the way of an effective merging. As far as we know, Goku hasn't done it either; he simply understands it well enough to teach it.
Kind of. Goku suggests fusion inside Super Buu, so... You know he's there even though he's not physically there.batistabus wrote:6. Gogeta does not currently exist in Toriyama's Dragon Ball continuity.
Agree with you. And why would he use Gogeta, who wasn't even designed by Toriyama?Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Toyotaro has kept his manga in-line with Toriyama's original manga so far. That's not changing.
Wow, finally came across the truth.OLKv3 wrote:If Toriyama put Vegetto in his script, then that's what he has to do. He doesn't have full control over this story.
Some people act like he just puts whatever he wants into the manga...Miracles wrote:Wow, finally came across the truth.OLKv3 wrote:If Toriyama put Vegetto in his script, then that's what he has to do. He doesn't have full control over this story.
I raise my glass to you.
Toriyama could've written something like "Goku and Vegeta fuse to take down the fused Zamasu" so if that's the case then they'd be free to pick what they want.mfwlegend3 wrote:If Vegetto returning was fan service, Gogeta for some reason making an introduction would just SCREAM fan service. I could already see the, "lol this proves toyotaro's manga is nothing but non-canon, fan fiction trash" comments.
Which doesn't make sense cause he said he doesn't change Toriyama's main plot points so if anyone's chaging things it's Toei.TheMikado wrote:Some people act like he just puts whatever he wants into the manga...
No, the height similarity - in the same vein of making your kis equal - is so that the two fusees are very similar to begin with. They need to be as close as possible in body, mind, and spirit. Kuririn and Piccolo are able to touch fingers, but that doesn't mean they'd be able to fuse.Grimlock wrote:But their fingers can still meet each other, which is the height's purpose.
Seeing a technique and mastering it through practice are very different things (unless you're Boo). Goku says that he was taught this technique in the afterlife; he didn't simply witness it once. It took him a week to learn.Grimlock wrote:But Vegeta saw Goten and Trunks fusing, if Vegeta is a good observer, he knows as much as Goku.
Despite the height thing, I guess it's still possible. When introducing the concept to Piccolo and Kuririn, Goku seems to think he might have been able to do it with Vegeta if he were still alive. In the very next word panel, he mentions the height. I suppose the difference in height between Goku and Vegeta might be exaggerated on the page compared to what it "actually" is.Grimlock wrote:Kind of. Goku suggests fusion inside Super Buu, so... You know he's there even though he's not physically there.
Even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that there's two Kaioshin in the future with them right now. Not using a potara fusion to fight against a potara fusion would be retarded.sintzu wrote:Toriyama could've written something like "Goku and Vegeta fuse to take down the fused Zamasu" so if that's the case then they'd be free to pick what they want.
There are other reasons to change it, it would differenciate the manga from the anime even more and it would avoid adding a time limit to the potara in the mangamfwlegend3 wrote:Even if that was the case, it doesn't change the fact that there's two Kaioshin in the future with them right now. Not using a potara fusion to fight against a potara fusion would be retarded.
Such as change as big as that most likely came from Toriyama himself.sintzu wrote:it would avoid adding a time limit to the potara in the manga
I don't think it's beyond Toei, but it's such a Toriyama-esque retcon that I have to believe it's him.mfwlegend3 wrote:Such as change as big as that most likely came from Toriyama himself.sintzu wrote:it would avoid adding a time limit to the potara in the manga
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