Whats your current rating of Super as of episode 84?

[HybridSaiyan]

BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable

1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

So 18 kicked away a SSJB Kamehameha? She's been holding back for a long ass time. To think she let Cell absorb her...

[Ki Breaker]

BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable

1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

So 18 kicked away a SSJB Kamehameha? She's been holding back for a long ass time. To think she let Cell absorb her...

You think goku was firing a full power Kamehameha?

[Roronoa-pt]

BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable

1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

So 18 kicked away a SSJB Kamehameha? She's been holding back for a long ass time. To think she let Cell absorb her...

She didn't kicked away the blast, she kicked Goku's hands. Rewatch the scene.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable

1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

So 18 kicked away a SSJB Kamehameha? She's been holding back for a long ass time. To think she let Cell absorb her...

Goku held lol, what reason does he have to wanna hurt his best friend or his wife?

[MajinMan]

Dragon Ball

- Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6.5/10

- 21st Tenkaichi Budokai: 8.5/10

- Red Ribbon Army: 8/10

- 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai: 9.5/10

- Piccolo Daimao: 8/10

- 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai: 8/10

Overall: 8.1/10


Dragon Ball Z

- Saiyan: 9/10

- Freeza: 7.5/10

- Cell: 6/10

- Majin Buu: 10/10

Overall: 8.1/10


Dragon Ball GT

- Dark Dragon Ball Hunt: 4/10

- Baby: 7.5/10

- Super 17: 2.5/10

- Evil Dragons: 5.5/10

Overall: 4.9/10


Dragon Ball Super

- Battle of Gods: 6/10

- Resurrection F: 3/10

- Champa: 7/10

- Future Trunks: 7.5/10

- Univer Survival(so far): 8.5/10

Overall: 6.4/10


Series Rankings

1. Dragon Ball
2. Dragon Ball Z
3. Dragon Ball Super
4. Dragon Ball GT

Dragon Ball Super is a very enjoyable show after the Resurrection F arc. The Universe Survival arc has shown hints of brilliance and can become one of the best arcs in the franchise. The Future Trunks arc also had this potential, but it did not live up to it due to a weak and rushed ending. The Champa arc was very decent overall and the Battle of Gods arc was OK. The Resurrection F arc is the main downside of Super in my opinion. They did nothing to expand upon the movie (other than the actually good first 3 episodes), and the animation was the worst DB has ever seen. Hopefully Super keeps up the good work with the US arc.

EDIT: Do the bolding and underline functions work? Or am I just using them incorrectly all of a sudden. It used to work fine in the past.

[Avok]

4-5/10.

Things have gotten better, but it still hasn't done anything that surprises me. Bad characterisation for the most part, dull visuals, and many other things that I'm too lazy to list.

There has been episodes and scenes I've really enjoyed, but Super seems to be fixated in a boring and uninteresting way of presenting things. It may have good animated moments here and there now, but it still lacks the fine touch the older series has. The plot isn't the best thing ever either, as it lacks the impact of the original. Whenever it may be; action, cheerful, or even emotional moments. All of it feels soulles and flat (the visuals don't help either).

Zamasu and Goku Black were pretty neat concepts, even if the excecution left alone to be desired.

Last episode I watched was 81 and tbh I don't feel like I'm missing anything, but I'll catch up when I have time. Maybe is the ephemeral moments here and there that make keep watching.

[Asura]

4-5/10.

Things have gotten better, but it still hasn't done anything that surprises me. Bad characterisation for the most part, dull visuals, and many other things that I'm too lazy to list.

There has been episodes and scenes I've really enjoyed, but Super seems to be fixated in a boring and uninteresting way of presenting things. It may have good animated moments here and there now, but it still lacks the fine touch the older series has. The plot isn't the best thing ever either, as it lacks the impact of the original. Whenever it may be; action, cheerful, or even emotional moments. All of it feels soulles and flat (the visuals don't help either).

Zamasu and Goku Black were pretty neat concepts, even if the excecution left alone to be desired.

Last episode I watched was 81 and tbh I don't feel like I'm missing anything, but I'll catch up when I have time. Maybe is the ephemeral moments here and there that make keep watching.

You know, when I think of Super in a comparative way to the other DB series, the first thing that comes to my mind is what I just bolded in your quote. It's flat, it's dull, and it just feels soulless. (from a visual standpoint) The color palette is just way too damn bright. It was toned down a bit with the new filter, but now it seems like they're toning the filter down, bringing those bright ass colors back again. I really can not remember a single scene in Super where I looked at it and went "Wow, that's beautiful". In comparison, I've done that so many times with DB/DBZ/GT. Also, everyone is so damn shiny like they're constantly wearing oil at all times.

I think it's just a product of the times. Almost everything back then was hand painted (in terms of backgrounds and such), so you could literally see and feel the soul being put into the product. Now in the digital age, you just don't get that feeling anymore. You can certainly feel the care put into other parts of Super though, but yeah the visuals are just a disappointment overall.

[Avok]

4-5/10.

Things have gotten better, but it still hasn't done anything that surprises me. Bad characterisation for the most part, dull visuals, and many other things that I'm too lazy to list.

There has been episodes and scenes I've really enjoyed, but Super seems to be fixated in a boring and uninteresting way of presenting things. It may have good animated moments here and there now, but it still lacks the fine touch the older series has. The plot isn't the best thing ever either, as it lacks the impact of the original. Whenever it may be; action, cheerful, or even emotional moments. All of it feels soulles and flat (the visuals don't help either).

Zamasu and Goku Black were pretty neat concepts, even if the excecution left alone to be desired.

Last episode I watched was 81 and tbh I don't feel like I'm missing anything, but I'll catch up when I have time. Maybe is the ephemeral moments here and there that make keep watching.

You know, when I think of Super in a comparative way to the other DB series, the first thing that comes to my mind is what I just bolded in your quote. It's flat, it's dull, and it just feels soulless. (from a visual standpoint) The color palette is just way too damn bright. It was toned down a bit with the new filter, but now it seems like they're toning the filter down, bringing those bright ass colors back again. I really can not remember a single scene in Super where I looked at it and went "Wow, that's beautiful". In comparison, I've done that so many times with DB/DBZ/GT. Also, everyone is so damn shiny like they're constantly wearing oil at all times.

I think it's just a product of the times. Almost everything back then was hand painted (in terms of backgrounds and such), so you could literally see and feel the soul being put into the product. Now in the digital age, you just don't get that feeling anymore. You can certainly feel the care put into other parts of Super though, but yeah the visuals are just a disappointment overall.

There are plenty of beautiful looking anime nowadays. Super (and some of Toei's other long-runnings) just has this awful look where everythings looks squashed in the screen.
For example, Higashide's cut in the last episode is solid animation wise, but the characters don't look natural. They look off. And you can say it's because they don't have time, but even the movies look like that.

[dbs fanboy]

The same that it had before, a 6.5, it's just an ok series in the same level of GT, but if i ended up liking this arc then it would change to a 7 and beat GT, and...... so far i like it, but i should wait until it finish to give my final veredict.

[dbs fanboy]

Well...
my ratings are as such

Knowing it is a successor to Z and that it adds to the lore and characterizations in ways I don't like- 3/10
In complete isolation I would rate it a 4.5/10

For reference:
Z - 9
GT - 7
DB - 6
Fairytail pre-time skip 7
Fairytail post time skip 4
FMA - 8.5
Magi - 8

Sorry for double posting but i was surprised, with your rating for db, i didn't expect it to be so low.

[Shinda Forever]

Dragon Ball

- Hunt for the Dragon Balls: 6/10

- 21st Tenkaichi Budokai: 7/10

- Red Ribbon Army: 5/10

- 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai: 10/10

- Piccolo Daimao: 5/10

- 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai: 9.0/10




Dragon Ball Z

- Saiyan: 5/10

- Freeza: 5.5/10

- Cell: 7/10

- Majin Buu: 3/10




Dragon Ball GT

- Dark Dragon Ball Hunt: 1/10

- Baby: 2.5/10

- Super 17: 1/10

- Evil Dragons: 1/10




Dragon Ball Super


Battle of Gods arc: 1/10

Resurrection 'F arc: 5/10

U6 Tournament arc: 6/10

Planet Potefau arc: 1/10

Future Trunks arc: 5/10

Hitto vs Goku rematch: 10/10

Universal survival arc (so far): 5/10

[TheMikado]

Well...
my ratings are as such

Knowing it is a successor to Z and that it adds to the lore and characterizations in ways I don't like- 3/10
In complete isolation I would rate it a 4.5/10

For reference:
Z - 9
GT - 7
DB - 6
Fairytail pre-time skip 7
Fairytail post time skip 4
FMA - 8.5
Magi - 8

Sorry for double posting but i was surprised, with your rating for db, i didn't expect it to be so low.

I'm not a big fan of comedy anime. DB didn't get good for me til close to the end. It was cute just not my flavor.

[Doctor.]

I don't like to give number ratings anymore, but it's not a particularly good series. It's above average for anime standards (considering the absolute trash that is being put out, even what is critically acclaimed, that's not much too surprising).

[Beyond]

I don't like to give number ratings anymore, but it's not a particularly good series. It's above average for anime standards (considering the absolute trash that is being put out, even what is critically acclaimed, that's not much too surprising).

I don't know about that. There are quite a few anime that have writing that is a lot better than super. If you just mean modern anime then maybe that's true... I don't watch much modern anime.

[Doctor.]

I don't know about that. There are quite a few anime that have writing that is a lot better than super. If you just mean modern anime then maybe that's true... I don't watch much modern anime.

Sure, quite a few. It still doesn't negate the fact that the bulk of what's being put out, modern or otherwise, is bad.

[dragonballgeek]

BOG: 3.5/10
ROF: 2/10
Champa: 6/10
Trunks: 2.5/10

Honestly, I dropped Super after episode 82. This arc so far is just painful to watch. Ruining Goku's character, and Krillin suddenly jumping from Cell Jr level to beyond God Goku level despite barley ever training is just unwatchable

1- Krillin was never cell junior level that time not ever ( he still isn't for me, but that's debatable )
2- Krillin didn't make any jump in power to the realm of gods, the show broke its Mouth saying he was fighting by techniques and not raw power, the moment goku forced him to a raw Kamehameha struggle, he was screwed and hence 18 saved him..

Oh gosh... The fact that you even thought Krillin was on the same level as Cell Junior just discredits you in so many ways.

But you were right about the abnormal power jumps. They aren't right and it's bad writing.

[dbs fanboy]

I don't know about that. There are quite a few anime that have writing that is a lot better than super. If you just mean modern anime then maybe that's true... I don't watch much modern anime.

Sure, quite a few. It still doesn't negate the fact that the bulk of what's being put out, modern or otherwise, is bad.

Now i'm curious, knowing your dislike for modern anime, which ones of them do you consider good?

[Doctor.]

Now i'm curious, knowing your dislike for modern anime, which ones of them do you consider good?

I don't dislike modern anime. I think modern anime, and anime in general, is a bad medium for telling stories. Or, rather, it has the potential to be good, but it never actually tries to be good, it likes to splash around in its mediocrity. I don't think I've singled out modern anime as being worse than any other time (though it's not my particular favorite) in anime's history.

Mob Psycho 100 and One Punch Man are fairly recent popular anime that I found good (though I was already a fan of ONE's (and Murata's too, in OPM's case) work before).

[Yomi]

You know, when I think of Super in a comparative way to the other DB series, the first thing that comes to my mind is what I just bolded in your quote. It's flat, it's dull, and it just feels soulless. (from a visual standpoint) The color palette is just way too damn bright. It was toned down a bit with the new filter, but now it seems like they're toning the filter down, bringing those bright ass colors back again. I really can not remember a single scene in Super where I looked at it and went "Wow, that's beautiful". In comparison, I've done that so many times with DB/DBZ/GT. Also, everyone is so damn shiny like they're constantly wearing oil at all times.

I think it's just a product of the times. Almost everything back then was hand painted (in terms of backgrounds and such), so you could literally see and feel the soul being put into the product. Now in the digital age, you just don't get that feeling anymore. You can certainly feel the care put into other parts of Super though, but yeah the visuals are just a disappointment overall.

If there's one thing Super has going for it, it's the background artist. You shouldn't just toss a blanket over all digital art and call it soulless.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

During the future trunks arc, episode 47/51/66 had some really amazing backgrounds, some work was definitely put into this stuff.
I wouldn't say it doesn't have any soul, and 9 times out of 10, backgrounds in super are usually much more detailed than they were in Z.

Now that smudgey oil-painty look does have a lot more character than the realism they go for now but come on, don't hate on their work.

[The gr]

4-5/10.

Things have gotten better, but it still hasn't done anything that surprises me. Bad characterisation for the most part, dull visuals, and many other things that I'm too lazy to list.

There has been episodes and scenes I've really enjoyed, but Super seems to be fixated in a boring and uninteresting way of presenting things. It may have good animated moments here and there now, but it still lacks the fine touch the older series has. The plot isn't the best thing ever either, as it lacks the impact of the original. Whenever it may be; action, cheerful, or even emotional moments. All of it feels soulles and flat (the visuals don't help either).

Zamasu and Goku Black were pretty neat concepts, even if the excecution left alone to be desired.

Last episode I watched was 81 and tbh I don't feel like I'm missing anything, but I'll catch up when I have time. Maybe is the ephemeral moments here and there that make keep watching.

You know, when I think of Super in a comparative way to the other DB series, the first thing that comes to my mind is what I just bolded in your quote. It's flat, it's dull, and it just feels soulless. (from a visual standpoint) The color palette is just way too damn bright. It was toned down a bit with the new filter, but now it seems like they're toning the filter down, bringing those bright ass colors back again. I really can not remember a single scene in Super where I looked at it and went "Wow, that's beautiful". In comparison, I've done that so many times with DB/DBZ/GT. Also, everyone is so damn shiny like they're constantly wearing oil at all times.

I think it's just a product of the times. Almost everything back then was hand painted (in terms of backgrounds and such), so you could literally see and feel the soul being put into the product. Now in the digital age, you just don't get that feeling anymore. You can certainly feel the care put into other parts of Super though, but yeah the visuals are just a disappointment overall.

If there's one thing Super has going for it, it's the background artist. You shouldn't just toss a blanket over all digital art and call it soulless.
[spoiler][/spoiler]

During the future trunks arc, episode 47/51/66 had some really amazing backgrounds, some work was definitely put into this stuff.
I wouldn't say it doesn't have any soul, and 9 times out of 10, backgrounds in super are usually much more detailed than they were in Z.

Now that smudgey oil-painty look does have a lot more character than the realism they go for now but come on, don't hate on their work.

and you forgot to include episode 71,the story boarding and the animation when hit kill the mob boss was just so good,I arguably consider the location on that episode a 100x better than the Boring and lifeless wasteland in DBZ,I'm looking at you namek,it seems people don't see trees in the forest, just to note DBZ background are dull and lifeless,like mistarefusion,is such a shame that toriyama went with that route, the Hunt of DB and rra had beautiful back ground when you compare to the late DB/z portion

Is beyond me that people say DBS have dull visual ,are we're ignoring the exhibition matches or by that matter ssbkk, goku Black entrance, genkidama sword, vegito vs merged zamasu and goku breaking his limits in his fight with Beerus,I know DBS have rough animation and at time downright terrible, but saying DBS have dull visual and the original series didn't have that, is a fallacy