"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

What? Where was it stated he is stronger than Buu?

Just saying its okay for him to get stonger but I can't see him getting stonger than buu..
That's just my take on his potential

Oh right, then yes I agree.

[Kanassa]

Same reason why people think that Toriyama stole the idea of 17 being a park ranger from Teamfourstar.

I saw this the other day as well..
I am confused, do we know too much or are all these people morons to not know or understand such simple facts

To be fair, 17 being a park ranger before now was only mentioned in interviews. Though that doesn't make the concept of it being stolen from TFS any less laughable

[Lord Frieza]

You know during all this weeks entertainment I nearly forgot that we are going to finally see all my pride troopers and maybe some other fighters from U11 tomorrows. .

[namekiansaiyan]

You know during all this weeks entertainment I nearly forgot that we are going to finally see all my pride troopers and maybe some other fighters from U11 tomorrows. .

Episode 85 is all about the big players in the tournament.
Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Buu, Pride Troopers and Universe 6.

[Ki Breaker]

You know during all this weeks entertainment I nearly forgot that we are going to finally see all my pride troopers and maybe some other fighters from U11 tomorrows. .

Episode 85 is all about the big players in the tournament.
Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Buu, Pride Troopers and Universe 6.

Seeing your post acknowledge gohan as a big player..
Good times, Good times

[GodVegetto91]

You know during all this weeks entertainment I nearly forgot that we are going to finally see all my pride troopers and maybe some other fighters from U11 tomorrows. .

Which character do you like more now? Vermoud or Merged Zamasu?

[Noah]

By the time Goten and Trunks turned SS, for instance, people should've realized Z wasn't following Z's so-called logic anymore. Or maybe even earlier, when an Earth scientist managed to come up with androids stronger than the emperor of the universe and Super Saiyans?

It's funny that you're so biased defending Super that you don't realize I was talking about having characters becoming stronger with little to no explanation like we hadn't in Z. Goten and Trunks were born prodigies, the new generation being stronger was a staple of the series since Gohan's introduction. Dr. Gero was the most brilliant scientist in the universe who had followed Goku and his friends since 22nd TB with a bug-robot that collects information to find a way to defeat him. He did analysis, calculations and estimations, it wasn't something totally taken out of nothing considering he made Android 8, a cyborg that was stronger than Goku before Gero even know about him.

[dragonballgeek]

By the time Goten and Trunks turned SS, for instance, people should've realized Z wasn't following Z's so-called logic anymore. Or maybe even earlier, when an Earth scientist managed to come up with androids stronger than the emperor of the universe and Super Saiyans?

It's funny that you're so biased defending Super that you don't realize I was talking about having characters becoming stronger with little to no explanation like we hadn't in Z. Goten and Trunks were born prodigies, the new generation being stronger was a staple of the series since Gohan's introduction. Dr. Gero was the most brilliant scientist in the universe who had followed Goku and his friends since 22nd TB with a bug-robot that collects information to find a way to defeat him. He did analysis, calculations and estimations, it wasn't something totally taken out of nothing considering he made Android 8, a cyborg that was stronger than Goku before Gero even know about him.

Thank you. People forget that Dr. Gero straight up stalked and analyzed them for years.

As far as the Goten and Trunks going SSJ so early, it's not crazy. They've hinted at half breed (specifically Gohan) being much more talented than pure blooded Saiyans. Which explains why fighting isn't Gohan, Trunks and Gotens top priority in life.

[The gr]

So if tomorrow episode have new character, expect the toei website will update late today, and speaking of no 17,if I put him af 360,000,000,is not That hard to believe if he gets a power boost at the 1,000,000,000 or more

[GodVegetto91]

Here's a statement of absolute truth.

[spoiler]Dragon Ball Super.. A series where ANYTHING goes![/spoiler]

[perucho1990]

They are retconning the whole Z logic of "I have more Ki than you so I win", with an approach to PLs similar to JJBA, Hunter x Hunter, OPM, even One Piece uses it.

I understand why, Toei wants to make the support characters useful again instead of just being Goku/Vegeta doing everything like Toriyama wants it(Toyble Manga).

Lets be honest, fans these days prefer strategy/team work in fights over just brute strength/Ki blast spam.

[Xeztin]

They are retconning the whole Z logic of "I have more Ki than you so I win", with an approach to PLs similar to JJBA, Hunter x Hunter, OPM, even One Piece uses it.

I understand why, Toei wants to make the support characters useful again instead of just being Goku/Vegeta doing everything like Toriyama wants it(Toyble Manga).

Lets be honest, fans these days prefer strategy/team work in fights over just brute strength/Ki blast spam.

I think Naruto and One Piece along with Hunter x Hunter is what started all of this. In these 3 series power means nothing without a strategy behind it, which is why someone like Luffy doesn't go barging in on Big Mom. You get more content this way and can also go the oh no the plan backfired!" Route to drag out episodes/chapters and make the overall arc longer.

[Kanassa]

They are retconning the whole Z logic of "I have more Ki than you so I win", with an approach to PLs similar to JJBA, Hunter x Hunter, OPM, even One Piece uses it.

I understand why, Toei wants to make the support characters useful again instead of just being Goku/Vegeta doing everything like Toriyama wants it(Toyble Manga).

Lets be honest, fans these days prefer strategy/team work in fights over just brute strength/Ki blast spam.

I think Naruto and One Piece along with Hunter x Hunter is what started all of this. In these 3 series power means nothing without a strategy behind it, which is why someone like Luffy doesn't go barging in on Big Mom. You get more content this way and can also go the oh no the plan backfired!" Route to drag out episodes/chapters and make the overall arc longer.

Well, it's strategy until they pull a new transformation out.

[omaro34]

It will be good to see my boy Big Green this episode, we haven't seen him in weeks.

[perucho1990]

I think Naruto and One Piece along with Hunter x Hunter is what started all of this. In these 3 series power means nothing without a strategy behind it, which is why someone like Luffy doesn't go barging in on Big Mom. You get more content this way and can also go the oh no the plan backfired!" Route to drag out episodes/chapters and make the overall arc longer.

You are forgetting Pokemon, in which most battles also needed strategy and tactics, and its main reason why there are old fans still watching the show.

Strategy in the ToP will be very important, Krillin could be a big help if he does a feint and uses Kienzan on the ring, eliminating a good bunch of the competitors.

I liked the scene of the 4th Kienzan aiming at Gokus feet, that was out of nowhere in a logical way.

[pacz360]

I think Naruto and One Piece along with Hunter x Hunter is what started all of this. In these 3 series power means nothing without a strategy behind it, which is why someone like Luffy doesn't go barging in on Big Mom. You get more content this way and can also go the oh no the plan backfired!" Route to drag out episodes/chapters and make the overall arc longer.

You are forgetting Pokemon, in which most battles also needed strategy and tactics, and its main reason why there are old fans still watching the show.

Strategy in the ToP will be very important, Krillin could be a big help if he does a feint and uses Kienzan on the ring, eliminating a good bunch of the competitors.

I liked the scene of the 4th Kienzan aiming at Gokus feet, that was out of nowhere in a logical way.

Well you could also krillin was blind most of the opponents then have the others knock them out.

[perucho1990]

Well you could also krillin was blind most of the opponents then have the others knock them out.

But wouldnt using Taiyoken x100 also blind the rest of U7?, and they cant use sunglasses, its against the rules.

I got the feeling Gohan and Krillin will be the survivors for U7, imagine if they get to face Jiren? How unpredictable could that be, it would be logical if they to get overcome a Jiren who was weakened by Hit, Goku and Vegeta.

[Lord Frieza]

You know during all this weeks entertainment I nearly forgot that we are going to finally see all my pride troopers and maybe some other fighters from U11 tomorrows. .

Which character do you like more now? Vermoud or Merged Zamasu?

A good question.

As I said a while back I really liked Zamasu to the point that he has replaced Frieza as my favorite villain. I should make it clear that him as a whole not just fused. His character, powers, color schemes and what he dose in the story are really good, not to mention he's probably the most pragmatic villain this series ever produced and has by far the largest scale plane. And the crowning jewel is the fact that none of the damage he did got undone.

As for Vermoud well thats a bit more complicated. As you may or may not know I set up this idea "Support Your Universe" were to try and add some extra fun into all this people could support one of the universe based on there month of birth. In my case November. Please note that I did this long before any info was released, about a month in advance. But then we started predicting stuff for the up coming arc and everything I said for Universe 11 turned out to be right. I predicted Vermoud would be my GoD, I predicted the Pride Troopers were my universe's fighters hell I even predicted that some of them might be candidates for future GoD. Still waiting to see if Vermoud is the strongest and if my universe will win.

Anyway I love his design, Vermoud really dose stand out from the other GoD with his much brighter and dynamic (coincidence?) color scheme. Also its no wonder people though he was a villain with his looks. No when we first found out that he was a good guy I was a little disheartened, I'm a big villain supporter, but as time when one I really came around to him and my universe being the strait up good guys. I actually began to think, what is a good god of destruction like? Beerus and Champa a temperamental and will blow anything up on a wim, Sidra is indecisive and seems to play second fiddle to his kaioshin. But what will a GoD with a righteous heart be like, the idea is really interesting to me. Also, while short, I really like how he behaves with his team, he talks to them and listens, you can tell they are able to work together. He's not bullying or threatening any of them like Rou, Champa and even Beerus are known to. He's shaping up to be a cool guy.

As it stands I'm leaning towards Vermoud, but I want to see more of him before my final judgment is caste. This upcoming episode may swing the balance one way or another. When its made fully clear I'll announce it.

But there is one final bit of really weird stuff to add to this, call it a silly coincidence or a sign but the day before Kai was reveled to be from Universe 11, which in turn told us Vermoud was also, I was out walking and got bitten on the nose by an insect. My nose swelled up and turned bright red!

[namekiansaiyan]

It will be good to see my boy Big Green this episode, we haven't seen him in weeks.

First time in 2017 I think.

[The gr]

It will be good to see my boy Big Green this episode, we haven't seen him in weeks.

First time in 2017 I think.

Sad but true,at least they're some illustration, poster and artworks for him in 2017,I expect bucktooth and eyeball my nickname for them, until they get an official namewill get a name based on kitchen stuffs, since jiren is stove, toppo is pot,so these two should be name after a toaster, and a frying pan or another kitchen condiment