Anyone else disappointed that there's little to no nudity in DBS?

[julianix]

That's exactly what we need.. some Goku and Vegeta dick shots..

Am I right?

[Master Xar]

Um... no we don't need that, some battle damage is nice and aesthetically pleasing and everything, but if you want to see dicks and pussy for pleasure sake there are sites and artists for that, but for doing it to be "hardcore" and "not kiddy" is really just extra, there is no "need" for it, there's a "want" for it.

[Fionordequester]

Clothes are a barrier. To see them removed from a character opens that character even further on both a physical and spiritual level for the viewer to consumer.

...Ew... . I don't know about you, but I don't want to be "consumed" by any "consumers" that haven't asked for my permission. That's called voyeurism; and that's a really bad habit to get into!

[JulieYBM]

No not at all. One of the best things about Dragon Ball compared to many other shonen anime titles like Fairy Tail is that it doesn't constantly pander to the prepubescent kids.

Your first thought is that Mashima Hiro does not like what he draws, but rather draws it only so he can pander? You believe there is no artistic spirit in the creation of such subject manner?

Maybe he does enjoy it, doesn't really matter. It's done to pander to prepubescent Japanese kids just like so many other series.

It was a series that could have been half decent but became a complete joke due to the constant need to shoehorn in fanservice at every opportunity.

Almost all of the female characters wear skimpy clothes and have big tits that hang out. They're always getting into situation where they happen to just lose their clothes for no other reason to give kids a boner.

It's pathetic. Thankfully it's not something Dragon Ball has ever done. It doesn't need to stoop to that level just to be gain readers.

The series exists to make money. The boobs don't make it any less 'respectable'.

A work does not need to be a work of love to be decent?

A work that the author loves making is pathetic?

[Bullza]

The series exists to make money. The boobs don't make it any less 'respectable'.

A work does not need to be a work of love to be decent?

A work that the author loves making is pathetic?

Many successful series exist without having to pander to prepubescents. This series right here is one of the most successful anime properties of all time and has little to no fan service at all.

When a series feels like it needs to have these things to make money is when it starts to get pathetic. The author can like boobs all he likes, most men do but it's not about them it's about constantly shoe horning this drivel into the series for no reason other than to appease kids and that's a sign of a poor series that has to rely on such things to be a success.

It's no coincidence that most series that have fan service are terrible. Kenichi Mightiest Disciple was another one, that was a poor series that had no choice but to have constant fan service to get any kind of success.

Dragon Ball never needed to resort to such desperation.

[Terez]

I dont understand why someone would want to see adult Goku's penis...

Do you know any girls?

I don't have any particular desire to see it in the show. The fan artists tend to do the Saiyans more justice than the folks at Toei.

[Soppa Saia People]

There's always fan art.

[ekrolo2]

I do find the lack of Goku's abs post-Namek a most distressing matter

[Jinzoningen MULE]

This is a really weird sentiment. It's not like the Son family's penises were a part of the main cast.

[JulieYBM]

The series exists to make money. The boobs don't make it any less 'respectable'.

A work does not need to be a work of love to be decent?

A work that the author loves making is pathetic?

Many successful series exist without having to pander to prepubescents. This series right here is one of the most successful anime properties of all time and has little to no fan service at all.

When a series feels like it needs to have these things to make money is when it starts to get pathetic. The author can like boobs all he likes, most men do but it's not about them it's about constantly shoe horning this drivel into the series for no reason other than to appease kids and that's a sign of a poor series that has to rely on such things to be a success.

It's no coincidence that most series that have fan service are terrible. Kenichi Mightiest Disciple was another one, that was a poor series that had no choice but to have constant fan service to get any kind of success.

Dragon Ball never needed to resort to such desperation.

We've already established that these works include the things the author likes because the author likes them. This doesn't apply to simply boobs and penises. Violence, transformations and mythos are all forms of pandering, too.

Dragon Ball pandered by becoming a serious battle story, too.

[Lord Beerus]

Not really. To be honest, I'm pretty indifferent to when Dragon Ball wants to show more skins. If it happen, it's fine. If it doesn't, nothing major is lost.

[DHM211]

Yep. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we've yet to see a shot of shirtless Gokuu. Nevermind Blooma or any kind of female fanservice moments. The producers playing it safe has always irritated me.

In episode 32 Goku was half shirtless.
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The only time Goku was fully shirtless in Super (not even sure if this counts as Super or Z tbh) was when they reanimated the Goku vs. Frieza fight.
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[Baggie_Saiyan]

To be fair, most Hentai censor penis's

Aha, so thats why they want nudity in anime...lol

I guess so people don't feel guilty? I know I feel much more comfortable when watching a full on fan service show rather than full blown hentai, full blown hentai is still weird to me but boobs juggling on screen in an anime isn't for some reason lol.

Edit- What even is this topic?

[dragonballgeek]

....Is this really a topic? You mean to tell me you can't enjoy a show without having nudity involved?

Viewers can't enjoy a series without plenty of different things. Why are you singling out 'nudity'?

You don't need that to have a good show. My goodness this is borderline perverted. If it bothers you that much go watch porn.

You're surprised that a bunch of folks who come to the internet to discuss a series that glorifies resolving conflict through violence are a bunch of perverts?

I'm singling out nudity because it's such a completely unecessary aspect when watching a television show. If you're disappointed in the fact that a show doesn't have nudity, yes you are a straight up pervert.

[Fionordequester]

Clothes are a barrier. To see them removed from a character opens that character even further on both a physical and spiritual level for the viewer to consumer.

Ok, look, I know I already quoted this, but I'm not going to let go of it till you acknowledge it. I'm assuming that we're both men, so I want you to know that I'm not judging you as a person. What I'm about to say next is purely a criticism of your point of view. It's not a criticism of YOU; it's a criticism of your point of view. Ok?

So, this right here? This statement by YOU, and not by me? This sums up the problem with fanservice more eloquently than I could have ever come up with myself. Nudity is tied with physical, emotional, and spiritual vulnerability; yes. And that's wonderful for two consenting people. But that's not what goes on during fanservice. Most anime girls are not comfortable with having their private parts exposed for anyone else to see; including those who are separated by the 4th wall. Even Bulma was upset about having her vagina exposed to Master Roshi; and she was as perverted as they came!

Peering at someone's nudity without their permission is a violation of privacy; and by wanting more nudity, you're essentially training yourself to be ok with that. Worst yet, you're training yourself to view her body as a consumable item; otherwise, you NEVER would have used the word "consumer". There's no real way for anime girls to give you their permission, separated by the 4th wall as you are.

So if you believe you're making any kind of connection with any fictional characters, you also have to accept the implications that come with that. They deserve respect; and if you're looking at their nakedness without THEIR permission (and not the permission of the writers), then you're treating them about as disrespectfully as a man can possibly treat a woman.

[FortuneSSJ]

I'm disappointed by the lack of battle damage. I don't watch anime for nudity.

[Kanassa]

Peering at someone's nudity without their permission is a violation of privacy; and by wanting more nudity, you're essentially training yourself to be ok with that.

Okay, using this logic: Just like how those that wish for more battle damage are training themselves to inflict more harm upon people?

No, by wanting nudity, you just want nudity. You're not training yourself to perv on actual people. Hell, most likely the opposite effect is occuring because of how the fanservice here always results in the pervert getting punished for it.

[Yomi]

Battle damage to underwear level coverage is cool I guess, but just random fanservice that gets thrown in for no reason would be pretty lame.
If it's a part of a character or progresses the plot, that's perfectly okay; but don't expect or ask for Adult Female Nipples, and Adult Penises flopping around.
I just don't see how that would fit. (bad wording.)

Look, if you wanna see them naked just go to certain image boards and hentai sites. It's not that difficult.

We've already established that these works include the things the author likes because the author likes them. This doesn't apply to simply boobs and penises. Violence, transformations and mythos are all forms of pandering, too.

Dragon Ball pandered by becoming a serious battle story, too.

People call it tasteless because it's so easy. A story can be completely, empty, garbage, but throw in some tits n' ass and the viewers will come pouring in.
Not from any original talents or creativity from the artist, but from a much deeper level of instincts that the viewer can't control.

It's very easy to draw people in with sex appeal; and most of the time when authors do that, the content itself suffers. Then you get things like Fairytale. Where entire chapters are wasted for the sake of faps.

I find nudity in terms of fairy tail and other "Moe" generic style anime is usually tasteless and derivative; but in series' like Berserk, I like it,
It's mature, it's dark, it's tasteful.

In series like Hajime no Ippo, there's tons of nudity, it can convey sexuality, comedy, appreciation for the human form, there's adult dicks flopping about and it still doesn't feel insulting.

I guess that's where I make my distinction. If it's insulting or not, I want the author to treat me like a viewer who knows nudity exist, and doesn't think I'm a rabid animal that wants penises, and boobs flashed in front of me so that I can drool over it and buy body pillows.

[Fionordequester]

No, by wanting nudity, you just want nudity. You're not training yourself to perv on actual people. Hell, most likely the opposite effect is occuring because of how the fanservice here always results in the pervert getting punished for it.

Here's the difference; we're not asking for battle damage because we're sadists. We're asking for battle damage because it's jarring to see characters still looking pristine and clean when they're SUPPOSEDLY getting all beaten up. It's weird seeing Goku, Vegeta, Zamasu, and etc. getting stabbed left and right...only for them to then have no kind of enter-and-exit wound. It takes you out of the moment.

Nudity is different; you want to see T&A because you want to see T&A. It's not (usually) for the sake of the story.

[Bullza]

We've already established that these works include the things the author likes because the author likes them. This doesn't apply to simply boobs and penises. Violence, transformations and mythos are all forms of pandering, too.

Dragon Ball pandered by becoming a serious battle story, too.

Nah I'm sure it's part of why it's done but fan service in itself is a business, they know sex sells and that's why it's done to such an extent. It's not just the author, the Fairy Tail anime filler has a lot of fan service, there's anime that are made by entire companies not just one author that have fan service.

Dragon Ball becoming a battle story drove the series on. That's what the series revolves around and what pushes it forward, that was something that was necessary in order to make a good quality story. Yu Yu Hakusho did the same.

Fan service does nothing for the story or the characters. It has no benefit to the quality of the series. It's only purpose is so that prepubescent kids who likes boobs but aren't allowed to view porn can get off on something and so they can sell expensive fan service figures to the basement dwelling Japanese otakus.

So I can understand why these series have fan service. It's just that the ones that have it are usually the ones that are too awful to succeed via good story telling so it's thrown in because "Look big boobs!". Dragon Ball is a good series, it succeeded because of it and doesn't need to resort to such nonsense. Including it would only bring it down hard.