Live Action Film Question

Coach57 · Post by **Coach57** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:34 pm

I know it isn't the greatest source but Wikipedia has the DBZ live action movie on their 2008 in film page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_in_fi ... 8_Releases . Of course it is in the unscheduled section but I wondered if anyone had heard anything about this.

balrog · Post by **balrog** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:44 pm

It has been scheduled to be made in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008. It's been scheduled to happen for ages, and it most likely never will. But, I suppose imbd and other places will always keep that page for it there.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:38 pm

I'd prefer it stay in unscheduled movie limbo forever, honestly.

That is unless we're doing a full CGI thing. I don't want any live-action dbz. >_>

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:40 pm

Chuquita wrote:That is unless we're doing a full CGI thing. I don't want any live-action dbz. >_>

I don't know, after seeing the Sparking! openings, I'm doubtful for a CGI movie too.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:48 pm

Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:That is unless we're doing a full CGI thing. I don't want any live-action dbz. >_>
I don't know, after seeing the Sparking! openings, I'm doubtful for a CGI movie too.

Oof, yeah I forgot about how everyone looked like they were made of jello in those openings.

But when I say CGI I think of more high-quality stuff; stuff with lots of $ behind it to make it look nice.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:53 pm

Final Fantasy VII Advent Children nice?

I just want something like Path to Power, remixing and re-telling parts of the DBZ story...with Toei's current budget and DB's lasting popularity, they would have more than enough money to make one of the best animated features of all time.

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:53 pm

Chuquita wrote:
Ex-Dubbie369 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:That is unless we're doing a full CGI thing. I don't want any live-action dbz. >_>
I don't know, after seeing the Sparking! openings, I'm doubtful for a CGI movie too.

Oof, yeah I forgot about how everyone looked like they were made of jello in those openings.

But when I say CGI I think of more high-quality stuff; stuff with lots of $ behind it to make it look nice.

Yeah, if there was about the same budget that went into the Transformers movie, then it could look nice.

balrog · Post by **balrog** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:56 pm

It would still never work, especially if it was made in America. They wouldn't be able to find a director who could capture the feeling in all seriousness, it would be like Star Wars all over again, but they wouldn't luck out.

(No I was not insulting Star Wars, I referenced it because while making it, George Lucas struggled to get everyone serious about it and make sure they all knew it wasn't a kids movie.)

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:57 pm

I hope they never make one. I don't feel like it's something live action could work with.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:05 pm

Don't get why so many people are opposed to live action. Really the only arguments are "the hair won't look right" and "Hollywood will ruin it," which no one's really poised to say as it isn't currently in production or even pre-production... animé-to-live action has been successfully done before. Just look at Death Note. Or Transformers, as Ex-Dubbie just mentioned.

But that discussion's already been had about 4 or 5 times on this forum. What I'm really interested in is why Wikipedia lists Sony-owned Columbia Pictures as the production company instead of FOX, which was the prospective-maybe-not-really rights holder to the title before.

DemonKingPiccolo · Post by **DemonKingPiccolo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:26 pm

Personally I think that article at Wikipedia whould be deleted. However, this is not Wikipedia (one of my other internet homes), so I rest my case.

No one in Hollywood is interested in doing a live action Dragon Ball movie at this time. And I thank the Dragon Ball god for that, I don't want one made either.

The reason why many fans actually don't want to see a live action Dragon Ball movie made is because plenty of comic/super hero based movies that have come out in the past few years have done nothing but ruin their own series.

Hulk, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Cat Woman, Fantastic Four, Superman..... all these movies were nothing short of horrible, even with the advanced CGI that we have now. And if the Director wanted to be as true to Dragon Ball as they could, even a live action Dragon Ball would need a ton of components in a single scene to be CGI. It would take a while, and it would be very costly. Also a more universal and realistic issue is that the economy is low right now, a budget for a film like Dragon Ball wouldn't be easy to come by.

Only a handful of good Super Hero movies have come out in the past few years have actually been good movies: Batman, Spiderman (even though 3 wasn't that good), Transformers (not great but not bad either), Hellboy (in my mind, just bearly even made "decent").

Sometimes the classic animation with cels is the way to go.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:49 pm

I would love the live action movie to be made. I'm probably in the minority but I believe it could be awesome. And so what if it sucks? That doesn't have any effect on the series. It doesn't make what's out there any worse. Though, I think a CGI movie would be awesome too. Not like the crappy Sparking! opening videos, but something cel-shaded. Budokai 3 style graphics, only 10x better.

Bomber Greek · Post by **Bomber Greek** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:05 pm

[quote=Xyex]And so what if it sucks? That doesn't have any effect on the series.[/quote]

That's what you would think now...

Dragon Ball isn't the kind of movie that would be good in live action. I just hope to God that this movie isn't made.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:05 pm

DemonKingPiccolo wrote:Personally I think that article at Wikipedia whould be deleted. However, this is not Wikipedia (one of my other internet homes), so I rest my case.

No one in Hollywood is interested in doing a live action Dragon Ball movie at this time. And I thank the Dragon Ball god for that, I don't want one made either.

The reason why many fans actually don't want to see a live action Dragon Ball movie made is because plenty of comic/super hero based movies that have come out in the past few years have done nothing but ruin their own series.

Hulk, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Cat Woman, Fantastic Four, Superman..... all these movies were nothing short of horrible, even with the advanced CGI that we have now. And if the Director wanted to be as true to Dragon Ball as they could, even a live action Dragon Ball would need a ton of components in a single scene to be CGI. It would take a while, and it would be very costly. Also a more universal and realistic issue is that the economy is low right now, a budget for a film like Dragon Ball wouldn't be easy to come by.

Only a handful of good Super Hero movies have come out in the past few years have actually been good movies: Batman, Spiderman (even though 3 wasn't that good), Transformers (not great but not bad either), Hellboy (in my mind, just bearly even made "decent").

Sometimes the classic animation with cels is the way to go.

You're kidding, right? There isn't a budget for DBZ? In Hollywood?! Where, might I ask, are all the summer blockbusters coming from then? Yeah, the money might not be "easy to come by," but if they think it'll make them more money, they will find it.

And of course there'd be a ton of components for a single scene of CGI, that's how it always is if it's going to look good. Do you honestly think Pixar wouldn't make a movie if it was going to be "costly" and "take a while"? There's has to be effort involved if you want to have a good final product (and I doubt any of these movies are made "bad" on purpose).

While I agree that there have been a ton of crappy super-hero movies lately (and of the ones you listed, I found little wrong with Superman), that in no way dictates what would happen to DBZ if it were made. It's really reliant on who gets it, and how faithful they are to the original. Give it to Sam Raimi or Brett Ratner, and yeah, it might be doomed to fail. But give it to anyone who appreciates the series, like say the Wachowski brothers, and you've got yourself a kickass flick. Imagine what they did in Revolutions for special effects, and marry it with the adaptive faithfulness of V for Vendetta. Personally I couldn't think of anything better, short of having someone here do it.

And sorry, but CGI would be a total cop-out. Yeah, it'll look more like the show, but so what? It's nothing new. Live-action is a whole new experience to be had for the series, and as Xyex said, it wouldn't do anything to hurt what's already there. CGI is already way too prevalent in movies today, and often times gets more attention than the actual script. And, if it did turn out to be animated, I'd expect FUNimation to be directly involved... yeah, no thanks.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:49 pm

Hear hear, Acid! My sentiments exactly! (Especially about the overabundance of full-CGI movies nowadays)

My point has always been that DBZ would make a good, if not GREAT live-action movie, if properly adapted. In terms of looks, Hollywood has the ability to make ANYTHING sci-fi or fantasy looks real and believable these days. Look at Transformers (sci-fi) or Harry Potter or Stardust (Fantasy). That's not an issue in the slightest.

In terms of story and being a faithful adaptation, that can be done nearly, if not just, as easily.

Case in point, Transformers. I don't have a clue WHAT the hell people have to complain about with that movie. But from what I can tell from all my sleuthing and observations, there is only one demographic of people who are complaining. And that is the people who were convincing themselves it would be bad before it ever even came out, most of which were die-hard, overly picky Transformers fans. I've been to message boards where people are picking out EVERY SINGLE little flaw or incosistency with the comics, and using that 2% to try to make it out as a bad movie, or at least a bad adaptation.

Quite honestly, I may be a big DragonBall fan, but I hope I'm never THAT big a fan of ANYTHING.

Same with the Spider-Man movies. You don't see me throwing a hissyfit and wanting to lynch Sam Raimi for his having Osborn drop MJ off a bridge instead of Gwen, do you? Because I know that very few cartoons out there can be perfectly adapted in to film. Changes need to be made to make it into a decent movie.

So as long as whoever ends up directing DBZ (and it WILL happen, eventually. It's too notable a franchise NOT to) doesn't decide to make them all "gangster" (a-la the upcoming Alvin and the Chipmunks... there goes my childhood's innocence) or something ridiculous like that, then I'm all for a DBZ movie adaptation, and I'll await it with patiently baited breath.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:59 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:doesn't decide to make them all "gangster" (a-la the upcoming Alvin and the Chipmunks... there goes my childhood's innocence)

What are they doing to Alvin and the Chipmunks and who exactly is doing it!?

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:06 pm

SatoSky wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:doesn't decide to make them all "gangster" (a-la the upcoming Alvin and the Chipmunks... there goes my childhood's innocence)
What are they doing to Alvin and the Chipmunks and who exactly is doing it!?

They are doing this:

And the "they" is Tim Hill, the director of the recent Garfield movie.

I know.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:20 pm

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There really is no God. Having never watched anything Garfield other than the cartoons I don't know who this Tim Hill guy is. If I ever meet him though, I'll carve him up like a Sunday roast.

Sunday roast line stolen from Angel, episode 20: The Girl in Question.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:42 pm

They are doing this:

Hmm, speaking of a live-action DBZ movie. That guy kinda looks like Vegeta.

Now THAT would be an awesome movie!

DemonKingPiccolo · Post by **DemonKingPiccolo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:47 pm

SatoSky wrote: --> -->

There really is no God. Having never watched anything Garfield other than the cartoons I don't know who this Tim Hill guy is. If I ever meet him though, I'll carve him up like a Sunday roast.

Sunday roast line stolen from Angel, episode 20: The Girl in Question.

There really is no God if they degrade Dragon Ball to a posterboy actor and a bunch of CGI crap. That's all that Superhero movies are these days, Spiderman would've fallen through that crack if they didn't have whatever director they had. Also, nothing is original in Hollywood anymore, it's either sequels, film adaptations of books, or live-action films of cartoon shows. Has Hollywood really run out of ideas? Good lord!

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