"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[OLKv3]

how you guys going to feel if they remove all the recruitment episodes and the exhibition matches from the manga

If? They will. The manga flows like the original DB manga, and the original DB manga was fast paced and barely had these slice of life episodes. This is Toei all the way, they always added character interactions and were much better at making the characters seem more like a family. Look at the 7 days till the Cell games for example, or the 3 years to the Androids
We'll probably get the spotlight on 17 joining in a much different way but that'll be about it. The rest will be quick panels explained by narration.
I do think the exhibition matches will stay though.

It's almost time to avoid this thread like the plague though. This place gets absolutely awful when new chapters leak

[The gr]

how you guys going to feel if they remove all the recruitment episodes and the exhibition matches from the manga

If? They will. The manga flows like the original DB manga, and the original DB manga was fast paced and barely had these slice of life episodes. This is Toei all the way, they always added character interactions and were much better at making the characters seem more like a family. Look at the 7 days till the Cell games for example, or the 3 years to the Androids
We'll probably get the spotlight on 17 joining in a much different way but that'll be about it. The rest will be quick panels explained by narration.
I do think the exhibition matches will stay though.

It's almost time to avoid this thread like the plague though. This place gets absolutely awful when new chapters leak

I guess your right,the DB manga barely had slice of Life moment, but I do think the exhibition matches will be in this continuity,sad but true,is going to get awful when leak are out,like last month and in February, seriously I will Never get over the willfull ignorance in February,I mean the haters believe that black ki force Mai cause the crater but I just posted the damn page when black smashed Trunks head to cause the crater before The people start spreading their misinformation about Mai

[ekrolo2]

Toyotaro is definitely gonna skip over all this team assembling stuff and he's gonna jump right into the main event.

[Alruneia]

Toyotaro is definitely gonna skip over all this team assembling stuff and he's gonna jump right into the main event.

Yes, almost certainly. Toyotarou will give it one chapter tops, I'm betting. To me, these many recruitment episodes seem to be how he's going to end up being ahead, honestly.

[The gr]

Toyotaro is definitely gonna skip over all this team assembling stuff and he's gonna jump right into the main event.

Yes, almost certainly. Toyotarou will give it one chapter tops, I'm betting. To me, these many recruitment episodes seem to be how he's going to end up being ahead, honestly.

The manga will never be ahead, Because is impossible or unless the anime take a break for a while. Because it looks like the battle Royale will start in June meanwhile the manga arc of ft Trunks will end in June

[Basako]

I can totally see the first and second chapters telling about the exhibition matches and the third about the reqruitments. We'll see.

[OLKv3]

Lol I swear we need a sticky clarifying what Toyotaro meant. He himself is ahead of the anime and sending designs and such, not the manga. The manga will not be jumping ahead anytime soon

[Lord Beerus]

Again, we are talking about very quick jumps between two states, not just one transformation to mantain. The jumps being smaller must make it easier, this is pure logic. Plus the other reasons, stronger than the yellows and a good body shape to dodge. And maybe he should have worried about the way he transformed in to blue before, as it could affect on the stamina draining.

The SSJ forms do not scale up speed. They only scale up raw power. And I've said before, we've seen Goku go from base to SSJ3 or SSJB and Vegeta from to base or SSJ to SSJB several times. What transformation they have previous the next SSJ form they want to transform into has no barring how well they can perform in battle or how well they change from one transformation to another in the midst of battle.

SSJ increases a Saiyan power (power level) by 50 times. It increases power, speed, reflexes etc... like Kaio-Ken does. If it only increased raw power like punching power, Kaio-Ken would be much better. It was clear ever since Goku turned SSJ that his speed increased, he immediately stopped Freezer from trying to kill Gohan. Also when Gohan turned SSJ2 everyone were amazed by his incredible speed.

Well, the Daizenshuu Battle Power Guide make no mention of any of the Super Saiyan form increasing your speed. Just your raw power. It's only the Kaioken that is explicitly stated to multiply strength and speed. But then again speed feats in Dragon Ball have never been consistent.

[OLKv3]

The SSJ forms do not scale up speed. They only scale up raw power. And I've said before, we've seen Goku go from base to SSJ3 or SSJB and Vegeta from to base or SSJ to SSJB several times. What transformation they have previous the next SSJ form they want to transform into has no barring how well they can perform in battle or how well they change from one transformation to another in the midst of battle.

SSJ increases a Saiyan power (power level) by 50 times. It increases power, speed, reflexes etc... like Kaio-Ken does. If it only increased raw power like punching power, Kaio-Ken would be much better. It was clear ever since Goku turned SSJ that his speed increased, he immediately stopped Freezer from trying to kill Gohan. Also when Gohan turned SSJ2 everyone were amazed by his incredible speed.

Well, the Daizenshuu Battle Power Guide make no mention of any of the Super Saiyan form increasing your speed. Just your raw power. It's only the Kaioken that is explicitly stated to multiply strength and speed. But then again speed feats in Dragon Ball have never been consistent.

Who cares about the guide? The very thing SSJ Goku does is outspeed Freeza despite never being able to do so before. SSJ amplifies everything, not just speed. SSG also does it, since Goku went from not being able to even see Beerus to keeping up with his movements and even outspeeding him at times

[Kanassa]

how you guys going to feel if they remove all the recruitment episodes and the exhibition matches from the manga

I feel like Buu VS Basil and Goku VS Toppo will be in the manga, along with 17'S introduction; Everything else will probably just be talked about in a panel.

[emperior]

how you guys going to feel if they remove all the recruitment episodes and the exhibition matches from the manga

I feel like Buu VS Basil and Goku VS Toppo will be in the manga, along with 17'S introduction; Everything else will probably just be talked about in a panel.

Not a panel but I expect a chapter to get over with all the recruitment. Maybe all the warriors will get 1-2 pages each with 17 taking more. If the manga skips through the exhibition match (though I hope that if it does, it mentions it happening like it did with RoF) Toyotaro could catch up to the anime in just one chapter and surpass it with the next one.

[The gr]

how you guys going to feel if they remove all the recruitment episodes and the exhibition matches from the manga

I feel like Buu VS Basil and Goku VS Toppo will be in the manga, along with 17'S introduction; Everything else will probably just be talked about in a panel.

Not a panel but I expect a chapter to get over with all the recruitment. Maybe all the warriors will get 1-2 pages each with 17 taking more. If the manga skips through the exhibition match (though I hope that if it does, it mentions it happening like it did with RoF) Toyotaro could catch up to the anime in just one chapter and surpass it with the next one.

Why someone think he will skip ahead,he stopped doing this chapter 10,so seeing toyotaro rushing things is unlikely

my prediction for the number of chapter,

23,24 and 25 will be the last 3 chapters meanwhile in July the USA arc will start

chapter 26 will cover episode 77

27 " cover 78 and some of 79

28 " cover the Buu vs Basil fight and Gohan vs lavenda, and ending with Bergamo and Goku,

29,is about Goku vs bergamo, and ending with toppo figthing goku

30 " cover the toppo vs goku and the torunament of Power rules

31," cover 83 and 84

32 " cover 85, ending with goku meeting #17

33,"show Goku and no 17, and Gohan piccolo, and a couple of panel of tien and roshi,it will be rushed

34,the training Will be in a couple of pages, and u11 and 6 will also appear in a couple of pages, and the 40 hours have passed,the battle Royale begin

[Kanassa]

Why someone think he will skip ahead,he stopped doing this chapter 10,so seeing toyotaro rushing things is unlikely

Because the content of these episodes both seem unlikely to be in Toriyama's outline (At most, it's probably ''Goku rounds up fighters. 17 gets focus"), as well as them being character focused moments outside of just fighting, which Toyo doesn't really see to do that much of.

[OLKv3]

I don't think we need 3 more chapters for the FT arc, I can see it ending at 24, unless Vegetto vs Zamasu takes 2 chapters. I think it'll be just as quick as it was in the anime

[Noah]

I absolutely detest the notion that the manga is strongly implying that Vegeta achieved SSJG by just training in the ROSAT because it undermines damn near everything about Battle Of Gods.

Not as much as Android 17 achieving a power greater than a Super Saiyan God that Goku stated in BoG as a level he could never dream of achieving no matter how he trained. Sorry couldn't resist


But talking about this subject do you guys think Toyotaro will pull the same crazy shit Toei is throwing at us? I do believe he will skip some parts of the recruitment, but he will at least reintroduce #17 but not him having a sparring match with SSJB Goku though

[Rhuagh]

I see the next chapter ending with Incorporeal Zamasu. In May's chapter this saga is finished and we have the timeskip.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

This may have been pointed out earlier and I may have missed it, but does Vegeta always refer to Goku as... well, "Goku" in the VIZ translation (link)?

The image is from the VIZ translation of DBS chapter 22.

[MyNiggaGoku]

This may have been pointed out earlier and I may have missed it, but does Vegeta always refer to Goku as... well, "Goku" in the VIZ translation (link)?

The image is from the VIZ translation of DBS chapter 22.

As far as I know,this is the first time Vegeta actually calls Goku by that name while he speaks directly to him.

VIZ's translation of the original manga was pretty faithful to the actual Japanese one,meaning that the only times Vegeta used "Goku" to refer to him were when he wanted others to know he is the man he calls Kakarot.

[Cipher]

Toyotaro is definitely gonna skip over all this team assembling stuff and he's gonna jump right into the main event.

Which I feel is for the best, as we already know everyone relevant is going to join, and Toriyama would never have devoted this much space to it either. The only characters we really need scenes with are some of the stranger choices like Kame-Sennin and #17. Even then, it doesn't need to be a big production.

I do hope we don't see the return of narration-box summaries, though. I'd like for Toyotaro to keep taking as many pages/chapters as he needs to keep it feeling like a coherent stand-alone story, as it has since the Universe 6 arc with the sole exception of that arc's summarized ending (which, even then, isn't too offensive, and contains more actual in-scene interactions than I'd remembered).

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Toyotaro is definitely gonna skip over all this team assembling stuff and he's gonna jump right into the main event.

Which I feel is for the best, as we already know everyone relevant is going to join, and Toriyama would never have devoted this much space to it either. The only characters we really need scenes with are some of the stranger choices like Kame-Sennin and #17. Even then, it doesn't need to be a big production.

I do hope we don't see the return of narration-box summaries, though. I'd like for Toyotaro to keep taking as many pages/chapters as he needs to keep it feeling like a coherent stand-alone story, as it has since the Universe 6 arc with the sole exception of that arc's summarized ending (which, even then, isn't too offensive, and contains more actual in-scene interactions than I'd remembered).

He seems to have long since moved away from abridgement, so I doubt we'll ever see a repeat of Toyotaro's handling of the first 3 arcs.