"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[emperior]

If we are looking at this long of a prep time before the tournament, I expect a freeza soldiers fight for 3 episodes straight, then a namek freeza fight for 2 episodes, ending with namek freeza vs goku fight for 5 episodes or more.

All in all there should be 10 episodes worth of tournament here..
But knowing super I will tone it down to 4 episodes of the actual match..

They have been outsourcing a lot of stuff lately so it's really possible the tournament is going to be very long, maybe it will be the longest Dragon Ball tournament ever. I believe this arc is going to be the longest one of Super, just because it got an entirely new opening just for it.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

If we are looking at this long of a prep time before the tournament, I expect a freeza soldiers fight for 3 episodes straight, then a namek freeza fight for 2 episodes, ending with namek freeza vs goku fight for 5 episodes or more.

All in all there should be 10 episodes worth of tournament here..
But knowing super I will tone it down to 4 episodes of the actual match..

They have been outsourcing a lot of stuff lately so it's really possible the tournament is going to be very long, maybe it will be the longest Dragon Ball tournament ever. I believe this arc is going to be the longest one of Super, just because it got an entirely new opening just for it.

Well we would have 13 eps already after Tiens episode without the main crux of the arc even starting!

[pacz360]

I wonder why haven't toei updated the profiles lately?

[Ki Breaker]

I wonder why haven't toei updated the profiles lately?

Maybe the info there will spoil something important..

[Ki Breaker]

If we are looking at this long of a prep time before the tournament, I expect a freeza soldiers fight for 3 episodes straight, then a namek freeza fight for 2 episodes, ending with namek freeza vs goku fight for 5 episodes or more.

All in all there should be 10 episodes worth of tournament here..
But knowing super I will tone it down to 4 episodes of the actual match..

They have been outsourcing a lot of stuff lately so it's really possible the tournament is going to be very long, maybe it will be the longest Dragon Ball tournament ever. I believe this arc is going to be the longest one of Super, just because it got an entirely new opening just for it.

Well we would have 13 eps already after Tiens episode without the main crux of the arc even starting!

You guys are probably right and my pessimistic view of super is clouding my judgement..
Sticking around all this time it was average is gonna be worth it if they do this good!

[kinisking]

I have a feeling that the tournament will be cut short though. Something's happening.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I have a feeling that the tournament will be cut short though. Something's happening.

I don't think that will happen per se but I subscribe to theory that something immediately follows the ToP. I think the Grand Priest reveals himself here as the true villain, infact I'd like a twist where all Angels actually are evil or something, though that's probably unlikely.

[Ki Breaker]

I have a feeling that the tournament will be cut short though. Something's happening.

One of the losing gods decide to attack Zeno because he has nothing to losea and zeno dies, every angel goes rogue as zeno was the one maintaining link between them serving the lazy gods, Every god and players fight all the angels.

That's the scenario I hope for

[ArchedThunder]

^^^ Yeah, I don't think the Battle Royale will be the main meat.

Don't forget the possibility of showing other universes prep too.

Yeah, I was thinking about this last night, they could get a lot of mileage out of showing more of the Pride Troopers, the Unvierse 6 team coming together and maybe even some stuff with Universe 9. There's also the possibility that the Roshi and Ten episode could actually end up being a two parter like what 17 is getting and that could be followed up by another Gohan and Piccolo episode (inter-cut with other universes).

[GodVegetto91]

Why do you guys feel it would take that long for the tournament to start?
They could just as easily have next weeks episode with Goku fighting 17 be the last of the filler arc of preparing. And have the weekend after the next be the start of the tournament.

We have summaries/titles up to episode 89.

Oh thanks. Didn't know about that. Must have missed it.

[MisteryOne]

If they want to do more filler, something about Planet Salad, U10's team and Gowasu or about U9's team would be pretty cool, but I doubt it.

[Totamo]

I have a feeling that the tournament will be cut short though. Something's happening.

One of the losing gods decide to attack Zeno because he has nothing to losea and zeno dies, every angel goes rogue as zeno was the one maintaining link between them serving the lazy gods, Every god and players fight all the angels.

That's the scenario I hope for

except zeno can literally destroy universes and all the angels are far stronger than everyone else.



I don't think that's going to work.

[Ki Breaker]

I have a feeling that the tournament will be cut short though. Something's happening.

One of the losing gods decide to attack Zeno because he has nothing to losea and zeno dies, every angel goes rogue as zeno was the one maintaining link between them serving the lazy gods, Every god and players fight all the angels.

That's the scenario I hope for

except zeno can literally destroy universes and all the angels are far stronger than everyone else.



I don't think that's going to work.

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

[kinisking]

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

To be fair, they made Goku go into base in the super version of Rof.

I agree with the rest. It's been said a few times that Omniking isn't necessarily strong. It seems like he just has an ability to erase whatever he wants. If he's caught off guard, then he can most likely be murdered.

[Orb]

If we're doing crackpot theories I'll throw mine in and what I feel like it could go. I don't believe The Grand Priest is as nefarious as many of you seem to do. My idea goes back to the start of the arc where the two Zenos are playing together and they are at a standstill with 99-99 wins (Showing that they are equals). The Tournament ends and Goku is the victor. He wishes for the Universes to be brought back and perhaps merged together since the problem the Zenos had that there were too many universes to begin with. So the Present Zeno, being Goku's friend understands and lets it happen. But the Future Zeno disagrees because it goes against their judgement and he didn't get what he wanted from this tournament: enjoyment from all the destruction (considering the Zenos had no problem destroying planets for their little game in the beginning). The two Zenos argue and begin to fight and eventually they destroy each other because they are equals (who else better to get rid of Zeno than Zeno himself?).

Because they made a point of the Tournament being taken place in a separate dimension (The Void), their destruction have no effect on the multiverse. The god hierarchy is thrown out of a loop as its leader is no more. The gods, kais and angels are left to figure out how to carry out their order. Perhaps Grand Priest takes over (maybe that was his plan...) or there is a power vacuum, leaving others to fight for the top spot in the next arc.

Oh and Jiren and Goku are totally besties, leaving Vegeta and Hit to make a "Goku's Exes' Club".

[Totamo]

One of the losing gods decide to attack Zeno because he has nothing to losea and zeno dies, every angel goes rogue as zeno was the one maintaining link between them serving the lazy gods, Every god and players fight all the angels.

That's the scenario I hope for

except zeno can literally destroy universes and all the angels are far stronger than everyone else.



I don't think that's going to work.

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

Zeno isn't like Goku. Goku's durability comes from his ki. That's why krillin was able to wound vegeta in the freeza saga.

Zeno has not been shown to use ki. He just booms. His guards are more like his babysitters, honestly.
He is said to be the most powerful thing in existence so they ain't killing him.

[Totamo]

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

To be fair, they made Goku go into base in the super version of Rof.

I agree with the rest. It's been said a few times that Omniking isn't necessarily strong. It seems like he just has an ability to erase whatever he wants. If he's caught off guard, then he can most likely be murdered.

No, it's been stated he is not a fighter. He has been stated to be the strongest character in the show.

[kinisking]

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

To be fair, they made Goku go into base in the super version of Rof.

I agree with the rest. It's been said a few times that Omniking isn't necessarily strong. It seems like he just has an ability to erase whatever he wants. If he's caught off guard, then he can most likely be murdered.

No, it's been stated he is not a fighter. He has been stated to be the strongest character in the show.

I vividly remember Whis saying Goku and Vegeta trying to measure him by strength is a bad habit of saiyans. I

[Sandubadear]

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

To be fair, they made Goku go into base in the super version of Rof.

I agree with the rest. It's been said a few times that Omniking isn't necessarily strong. It seems like he just has an ability to erase whatever he wants. If he's caught off guard, then he can most likely be murdered.

When Goku asks if Future Zen'o is still alive, Kaioshin says Zen'o can't be beaten no matter what.

[kinisking]

But is he immune to sneak attacks?

Constantly it's been set, examples like SSB can be taken out by a sneak attack from a mere laser..

Besides, zeno seems like a glass Cannon, no defense only offense, he dosen't have guards for fun

To be fair, they made Goku go into base in the super version of Rof.

I agree with the rest. It's been said a few times that Omniking isn't necessarily strong. It seems like he just has an ability to erase whatever he wants. If he's caught off guard, then he can most likely be murdered.

When Goku asks if Future Zen'o is still alive, Kaioshin says Zen'o can't be beaten no matter what.

We need to stop taking whatever the characters say as absolute facts. Of course Kaioshin would think that, because he appears to be that way. I mean he can erase anything out of existence. But if he was really unstoppable, he wouldn't need guards.