Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

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Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:58 am

Think about it - the amount of fighters there who can actually counter his time skip can probably be counted on one hand (assuming Goku isn't the only one). So all he has to do is time skip and knock opponents out of the ring. One instant they're fighting and the next they're out of bounds, not realizing what happened. He could take out dozens of opponents at a time this way, and there would be nothing they could do about it. Using this tactic, I don't see how Universe 6 can lose, unless it comes down to Goku vs. Hit.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Miracles » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:59 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Hit gets smashed just to hype up Jiren.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:04 am

And that's the reason the tournament is in a place void of time..
At Least that's what I would assume, otherwise why bother including that line
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Apr 12, 2017 3:59 am

Ki Breaker wrote:And that's the reason the tournament is in a place void of time..
At Least that's what I would assume, otherwise why bother including that line
It can't literally be a place with no time, because then nothing would happen there - it would just be perpetually frozen. In fact we know time passes there because there's a running countdown of how long it will take for the arena to be finished.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:23 am

I just realized, he isn't getting the rematch Goku wanted. Jesus, the Vs Universe 6 arc really is bad, yikes.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:29 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:And that's the reason the tournament is in a place void of time..
At Least that's what I would assume, otherwise why bother including that line
It can't literally be a place with no time, because then nothing would happen there - it would just be perpetually frozen. In fact we know time passes there because there's a running countdown of how long it will take for the arena to be finished.
Yes, but what other reason could be there to include that specific line
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:16 am

I suppose they could say that Hit's time skip doesn't work for some reason, but that would be a lame cop-out in my opinion.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:44 am

It's not really a lame cop out though, it's more of a necessity..
Like this thread says, hit will be too op otherwise
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Simere » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:09 am

Ki Breaker wrote:And that's the reason the tournament is in a place void of time..
At Least that's what I would assume, otherwise why bother including that line
The flying rule demonstration implied that the stage is distinct from the World of Void; it's within the Void, but not part of the Void. So that shouldn't apply.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:10 am

Hit won't be that much of a problem for Universe 7 as they know about him but the other 6 universes are probably in some deep trouble.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Sodhi » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:00 pm

Jiren would take the hits easily. Goku took them in his base form. I don't think his Time skip is Jiren's level yet. This is me assuming Jiren is going to be really strong.Also basing on the fact that hit can't kill.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by TheMathemagician » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:36 pm

Miracles wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Hit gets smashed just to hype up Jiren.
This really. Hit and Vegeta have some real big red flags going on. Vegeta is self-explanatory. Hit himself has been set up perfectly to be used as hype material. I'd honestly be surprised if either Vegeta or Hit don't get stomped by Jiren. I'm going into this tournament expecting either one (maybe even both) to get wrecked.
SaiyanZ wrote:I just realized, he isn't getting the rematch Goku wanted. Jesus, the Vs Universe 6 arc really is bad, yikes.
Goku did get the rematch he wanted though. When he place a hit on himself.
namekiansaiyan wrote:Hit won't be that much of a problem for Universe 7 as they know about him but the other 6 universes are probably in some deep trouble.
Outside of Goku and possibly Vegeta, nobody from U7 is worth anything to Hit.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Namz » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:20 pm

In the manga his timeskip is already useless against stronger ones like Jiren I suppose.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Shinda Forever » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:30 pm

I think Hitto still would be a big player in this tournament, but, he can be dismissed as well early by Jiren.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:45 pm

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namekiansaiyan wrote:Hit won't be that much of a problem for Universe 7 as they know about him but the other 6 universes are probably in some deep trouble.
Outside of Goku and possibly Vegeta, nobody from U7 is worth anything to Hit.
I think you are underestimating the rest of Universe 7 like most people do.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by TheMathemagician » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:38 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Hit won't be that much of a problem for Universe 7 as they know about him but the other 6 universes are probably in some deep trouble.
Outside of Goku and possibly Vegeta, nobody from U7 is worth anything to Hit.
I think you are underestimating the rest of Universe 7 like most people do.
It isn't underestimating, it's stating a fact.
Namz wrote:In the manga his timeskip is already useless against stronger ones like Jiren I suppose.
Definitely, the difference is, Hit's Tokitobashi in the anime isn't completely the same as it is in the manga. His ability in the manga is nowhere near as broken as it is in the anime.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by perucho1990 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:40 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
Miracles wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Hit gets smashed just to hype up Jiren.
This really. Hit and Vegeta have some real big red flags going on. Vegeta is self-explanatory. Hit himself has been set up perfectly to be used as hype material. I'd honestly be surprised if either Vegeta or Hit don't get stomped by Jiren. I'm going into this tournament expecting either one (maybe even both) to get wrecked.

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I'm going add Bergamo to the list of being used as tool hype because he was defeated by KAIOKEN SSJB Goku, if Jiren 1 shots him then it would be great way to build up him as a top contender to win the whole tournament.

Gohan also might be in that list because he has been main character in his arc so far.
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:10 pm

I'd imagine there would be a scenario where some of the characters will have crazy abilities that allow them to not be affected by Hit's Timeskip ability.

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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by TheMathemagician » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:18 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote:
Miracles wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Hit gets smashed just to hype up Jiren.
This really. Hit and Vegeta have some real big red flags going on. Vegeta is self-explanatory. Hit himself has been set up perfectly to be used as hype material. I'd honestly be surprised if either Vegeta or Hit don't get stomped by Jiren. I'm going into this tournament expecting either one (maybe even both) to get wrecked.

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I'm going add Bergamo to the list of being used as tool hype because he was defeated by KAIOKEN SSJB Goku, if Jiren 1 shots him then it would be great way to build up him as a top contender to win the whole tournament.

Gohan also might be in that last because he has been main character in his arc so far.
This is true. Any of them being wrecked would hype him up.
Lord Beerus wrote:I'd imagine there would be a scenario where some of the characters will have crazy abilities that allow them to not be affected by Hit's Timeskip ability.
You mean something like a nullification ability?
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Re: Won't Hit be completely OP in the tournament?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:18 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I'd imagine there would be a scenario where some of the characters will have crazy abilities that allow them to not be affected by Hit's Timeskip ability.
You mean something like a nullification ability?
Yeah, sure. Why not? That could work.

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