"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:15 pm

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:The easy answer to all this:

These people arent as strong as Goku/Vegeta.

The people in other universe will be of similar power to our own. There is no reason to think each universe has ten God Tier fighters.
Yeah thats what I was gonna go with, possibly Jiren,Hit,Toppo may be the only guys who's God tiers.
Fem Broly (calling her this is still awkward, do we still not know her name?) could just be at around Ultimate Gohan level. The one fighting Vegeta in the OP could just be SSJ level as well.
I bet on some other surprise but yeah, I don't expect to see many god tier fighters

Biggest danger is not power, but any tricky technique like Lavenda's poison

For example, a tayoken + kienzan could slice a Toppo tier fighter in half, imo, expecially in Super
power isn't everything
Indeed, especially with what they're going with now, its teamwork and tactics over power.
If Krillin plays his cards right he may just be one of their biggest players in this arc.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:22 pm

dbs fanboy wrote: Just make 17 say that he has been training really hard ever since, i could buy that (then demand for a 17 special where we actually see his training)
Not expecting an actual special or an episode focused on him training (even Freeza didnt get one) simply having 17 outright says he was training and had the motivation to become stronger is more than enough.

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Post by dbs fanboy » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:23 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote: Yeah thats what I was gonna go with, possibly Jiren,Hit,Toppo may be the only guys who's God tiers.
Fem Broly (calling her this is still awkward, do we still not know her name?) could just be at around Ultimate Gohan level. The one fighting Vegeta in the OP could just be SSJ level as well.
I bet on some other surprise but yeah, I don't expect to see many god tier fighters

Biggest danger is not power, but any tricky technique like Lavenda's poison

For example, a tayoken + kienzan could slice a Toppo tier fighter in half, imo, expecially in Super
power isn't everything
Indeed, especially with what they're going with now, its teamwork and tactics over power.
If Krillin plays his cards right he may just be one of their biggest players in this arc.
Now that i'm thinking about it, the kienzan it's literally the best attack, it only failed in filler and it was able to even cut Freeza himself (coming from a much weaker Kuririn) so now i'm asking.
WHY IN THE GOD DAMN HELL AREN'T THEY ALL USING IT!!!!!!!!
I mean, i'm pretty sure that if trunks stroke Black with a kienzan instead of a masenko, he would have fucking won and probably saved his future.
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Post by emperior » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:27 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:
I bet on some other surprise but yeah, I don't expect to see many god tier fighters

Biggest danger is not power, but any tricky technique like Lavenda's poison

For example, a tayoken + kienzan could slice a Toppo tier fighter in half, imo, expecially in Super
power isn't everything
Indeed, especially with what they're going with now, its teamwork and tactics over power.
If Krillin plays his cards right he may just be one of their biggest players in this arc.
Now that i'm thinking about it, the kienzan it's literally the best attack, it only failed in filler and it was able to even cut Freeza himself (coming from a much weaker Kuririn) so now i'm asking.
WHY IN THE GOD DAMN HELL AREN'T THEY ALL USING IT!!!!!!!!
I mean, i'm pretty sure that if trunks stroke Black with a kienzan instead of a masenko, he would have fucking won and probably saved his future.
Kienzan is supposed to be slower than normal techniques, or else I wouldn't explain how Vegeta was able to tell Nappa to avoid it when Krillin already threw it.
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Post by The gr » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:31 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:The easy answer to all this:

These people arent as strong as Goku/Vegeta.

The people in other universe will be of similar power to our own. There is no reason to think each universe has ten God Tier fighters.
Yeah thats what I was gonna go with, possibly Jiren,Hit,Toppo may be the only guys who's God tiers.
Fem Broly (calling her this is still awkward, do we still not know her name?) could just be at around Ultimate Gohan level. The one fighting Vegeta in the OP could just be SSJ level as well.
I bet on some other surprise but yeah, I don't expect to see many god tier fighters

Biggest danger is not power, but any tricky technique like Lavenda's poison

For example, a tayoken + kienzan could slice a Toppo tier fighter in half, imo, expecially in Super
power isn't everything
remember,the kienzan could kill people, but he could use it for tricking people like he did with goku in the sparring match.techniques is the deciding factor to win like lavender poison could destroyed character that can transfom, namely Cabba and any saiyan character restraining to their weak Base form and possibly blind them.
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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:44 pm

Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:

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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:46 pm

My biggest curiosity atm is Roshi, I'm dying to see him in action, aside from the ending theme mafuba, we don't know how he could fight

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Post by The gr » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:21 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:
It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo
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Post by MrBlackFox » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:29 pm

The gr wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:
It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo

That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:31 pm

The gr wrote:I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo
I also want to see piccolo getting stomped
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Post by Kishido » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:33 pm

So hyped... Just some hours

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Post by Lapislettuce » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Kishido wrote:So hyped... Just some hours
YAAAS !! :o i've been waiting for this moment since i was 8 years old :o !

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Apr 15, 2017 2:42 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:
The gr wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:
It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo

That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)
One of many reasons why Piccolo is so useful compared to most of Universe 7.

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Post by TheMikado » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:14 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:
You know this would make sense against the androids which can't even sense ki. Probably wouldn't have made a difference for Cell if it worked or not.

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Post by TheMathemagician » Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:58 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:
The gr wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:Kienzan was only an example, in the tournament I dunno if it will be so useful, considering the no killing rule, but Krillin's definitely using it in the preview / opening, so we'll see how it plays
But yeah, it's a slow but lethal attack, so it's a waste to not see it in other fights

I was wondering what a mess could a power sponge like Bergamo do in an 80 fighters brawl, he could literally became invincible by absorbing multiple attacks :lol:
It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo

That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)
Piccolo will need a big power boost to mess with Bergamo. This is Super, so that's certainly possible.
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The gr wrote: It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo

That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)
One of many reasons why Piccolo is so useful compared to most of Universe 7.
Turning big for Piccolo isn't a good reason for why he's more useful than most of U7 at all.
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Post by kinisking » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:34 pm

Piccolo's enlargement move was proven useless the second he used it. Goku proved you don't need a big opponent to beat Bergamo and Bergamos definitely not invincible.
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Post by Beyond » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:51 pm

If Piccolo developed partial enlargement, I could see that being useful. It would increase power without losing too much speed, but I don't see that happening. A kaiju battle would be kinda cool though.

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Post by kinisking » Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:53 pm

Beyond wrote:If Piccolo developed partial enlargement, I could see that being useful. It would increase power without losing too much speed, but I don't see that happening. A kaiju battle would be kinda cool though.
Yup, partial enlargement would actually be cool. They need to make him use his stretchy limbs more. It's always cool when he pulls that out.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:51 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
MrBlackFox wrote:
The gr wrote: It could be his Downfall, remember the bigger you are,the easier you will be hit, but if he could mastered his technique like absorbing his opponent power without turning big, that would be op, but he is a moron, of course he will turn huge, and I want to see the battle between giant piccolo vs Bergamo

That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)
Piccolo will need a big power boost to mess with Bergamo. This is Super, so that's certainly possible.
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That would be crazy! :lol: giant piccolo ftw 8)
One of many reasons why Piccolo is so useful compared to most of Universe 7.
Turning big for Piccolo isn't a good reason for why he's more useful than most of U7 at all.
Giant form would be useful against certain opponents such as Magetta. He also has regeneration, stretchy arms, multi form, excellent hearing, wide range of ki blasts. This along with being the smartest fighter, being able to handle to handle pressure and having a decent amount of power makes Piccolo very useful and consequently very hard for an opponent to kncok him out of the ring.

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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:53 pm

Beyond wrote:If Piccolo developed partial enlargement, I could see that being useful. It would increase power without losing too much speed, but I don't see that happening. A kaiju battle would be kinda cool though.
Didnt he use it vs Garlick Jr? I know it was filler but that ability should become Piccolos version of Kaioken. :think:

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