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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:35 pm

Oh Goku can and will if the opening has anything to say about it. Goku VS Jiren is the focal point of the intro as it is, fighting him in base, SSGSS, and whatever goes on after he gets wreathed in that reddish black ki. Wont be surprised if its a new form since every arc has introduced one.

BOG - SSJG

Freeza - SSGSS

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Seems like were due for yet another form this arc if what whatever is going on with Goku in the intro is alluding to anything. Not to mention LSSJ is getting revived.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by Draconic » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:03 pm

I think U6 will be pretty friendly with U7, at least in the beginning. However, I can see Piccolo getting a rematch with Frost or Piccolo being the one to take him out.
Also, we know the other universes will gun for our guys. Fem Broly will probably take on some of those unseen fighters, maybe Bergamo himself. Vegeta is surely taking on that pink thing and I can also see him and Cabba doing some stuff together.
For the Pride Troopers, they'll probably fight most of everybody else, with some more powerful eliminating Buu and possibly Gohan too.
Piccolo and the others are probably going to get eliminated by the end, against some of the non U6/7/11 fighters.

However, I get the feeling that after the 45 minutes, U6, 7 and 11 will all have three fighters left: Goku, Vegeta, 17; Hit, Fem Broly and either the fat chick or Cabba; Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo. Then, the tournament will continue until there's one man standing.
Jiren defeats Hit, Goku beats Toppo, Vegeta beats Fem Broly.
Vegeta beats Dyspo, 17 and the third U6 guy eliminate eachother. Jiren then takes Vegeta out, promting Goku to bust out his new transformation and the final battle ensues.
Goku wins and uses the Super Dragon Balls to save all the destroyed universes.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by The gr » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:15 pm

Draconic wrote:I think U6 will be pretty friendly with U7, at least in the beginning. However, I can see Piccolo getting a rematch with Frost or Piccolo being the one to take him out.
Also, we know the other universes will gun for our guys. Fem Broly will probably take on some of those unseen fighters, maybe Bergamo himself. Vegeta is surely taking on that pink thing and I can also see him and Cabba doing some stuff together.
For the Pride Troopers, they'll probably fight most of everybody else, with some more powerful eliminating Buu and possibly Gohan too.
Piccolo and the others are probably going to get eliminated by the end, against some of the non U6/7/11 fighters.

However, I get the feeling that after the 45 minutes, U6, 7 and 11 will all have three fighters left: Goku, Vegeta, 17; Hit, Fem Broly and either the fat chick or Cabba; Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo. Then, the tournament will continue until there's one man standing.
Jiren defeats Hit, Goku beats Toppo, Vegeta beats Fem Broly.
Vegeta beats Dyspo, 17 and the third U6 guy eliminate eachother. Jiren then takes Vegeta out, promting Goku to bust out his new transformation and the final battle ensues.
Goku wins and uses the Super Dragon Balls to save all the destroyed universes.
is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:31 pm

The gr wrote:
Draconic wrote:I think U6 will be pretty friendly with U7, at least in the beginning. However, I can see Piccolo getting a rematch with Frost or Piccolo being the one to take him out.
Also, we know the other universes will gun for our guys. Fem Broly will probably take on some of those unseen fighters, maybe Bergamo himself. Vegeta is surely taking on that pink thing and I can also see him and Cabba doing some stuff together.
For the Pride Troopers, they'll probably fight most of everybody else, with some more powerful eliminating Buu and possibly Gohan too.
Piccolo and the others are probably going to get eliminated by the end, against some of the non U6/7/11 fighters.

However, I get the feeling that after the 45 minutes, U6, 7 and 11 will all have three fighters left: Goku, Vegeta, 17; Hit, Fem Broly and either the fat chick or Cabba; Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo. Then, the tournament will continue until there's one man standing.
Jiren defeats Hit, Goku beats Toppo, Vegeta beats Fem Broly.
Vegeta beats Dyspo, 17 and the third U6 guy eliminate eachother. Jiren then takes Vegeta out, promting Goku to bust out his new transformation and the final battle ensues.
Goku wins and uses the Super Dragon Balls to save all the destroyed universes.
is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
That ending wouldn't be bad on its own...but if Goku/Vegeta can't handle the problem on their own again Ill start being a bit sick of Super.

So far we have:

BOG: Goku loses to Beerus.
ROF: Time had to be rewound
U6: Hit throws the match
Future Trunks: Zeno FTW.


I know some people disagree with me but Id like to see Goku/Vegeta drill a win home for U7.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by Draconic » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:33 pm

The gr wrote: is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
Ha! Cool! You know, I didn't think about Jiren saving everybody, but that makes sense! I just feel it's time for Goku to actually win something in Super, especially since there's still four universes with strong guys still out there.
I mean, being the best out of the losers is a pretty Toriyama thing.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by The gr » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:13 pm

Draconic wrote:
The gr wrote: is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
Ha! Cool! You know, I didn't think about Jiren saving everybody, but that makes sense! I just feel it's time for Goku to actually win something in Super, especially since there's still four universes with strong guys still out there.
I mean, being the best out of the losers is a pretty Toriyama thing.
Yeah I want goku to win, but this is toriyama we're talking about,he loves making goku a loser, but I want him to win for once and let him have a consequence for his reckless action
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The gr wrote:
Draconic wrote:I think U6 will be pretty friendly with U7, at least in the beginning. However, I can see Piccolo getting a rematch with Frost or Piccolo being the one to take him out.
Also, we know the other universes will gun for our guys. Fem Broly will probably take on some of those unseen fighters, maybe Bergamo himself. Vegeta is surely taking on that pink thing and I can also see him and Cabba doing some stuff together.
For the Pride Troopers, they'll probably fight most of everybody else, with some more powerful eliminating Buu and possibly Gohan too.
Piccolo and the others are probably going to get eliminated by the end, against some of the non U6/7/11 fighters.

However, I get the feeling that after the 45 minutes, U6, 7 and 11 will all have three fighters left: Goku, Vegeta, 17; Hit, Fem Broly and either the fat chick or Cabba; Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo. Then, the tournament will continue until there's one man standing.
Jiren defeats Hit, Goku beats Toppo, Vegeta beats Fem Broly.
Vegeta beats Dyspo, 17 and the third U6 guy eliminate eachother. Jiren then takes Vegeta out, promting Goku to bust out his new transformation and the final battle ensues.
Goku wins and uses the Super Dragon Balls to save all the destroyed universes.
is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
That ending wouldn't be bad on its own...but if Goku/Vegeta can't handle the problem on their own again Ill start being a bit sick of Super.

So far we have:

BOG: Goku loses to Beerus.
ROF: Time had to be rewound
U6: Hit throws the match
Future Trunks: Zeno FTW.


I know some people disagree with me but Id like to see Goku/Vegeta drill a win home for U7.
I do want goku to win for once as I said above, but since Akira is writing,we will Have a similar ending to previous saga which would sucks, what I want is Goku and Vegeta defeat jiren, goku uses the super DB to recover everything and probably he will have a consequence
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by TheMathemagician » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:54 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
The gr wrote:
Draconic wrote:I think U6 will be pretty friendly with U7, at least in the beginning. However, I can see Piccolo getting a rematch with Frost or Piccolo being the one to take him out.
Also, we know the other universes will gun for our guys. Fem Broly will probably take on some of those unseen fighters, maybe Bergamo himself. Vegeta is surely taking on that pink thing and I can also see him and Cabba doing some stuff together.
For the Pride Troopers, they'll probably fight most of everybody else, with some more powerful eliminating Buu and possibly Gohan too.
Piccolo and the others are probably going to get eliminated by the end, against some of the non U6/7/11 fighters.

However, I get the feeling that after the 45 minutes, U6, 7 and 11 will all have three fighters left: Goku, Vegeta, 17; Hit, Fem Broly and either the fat chick or Cabba; Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo. Then, the tournament will continue until there's one man standing.
Jiren defeats Hit, Goku beats Toppo, Vegeta beats Fem Broly.
Vegeta beats Dyspo, 17 and the third U6 guy eliminate eachother. Jiren then takes Vegeta out, promting Goku to bust out his new transformation and the final battle ensues.
Goku wins and uses the Super Dragon Balls to save all the destroyed universes.
is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
That ending wouldn't be bad on its own...but if Goku/Vegeta can't handle the problem on their own again Ill start being a bit sick of Super.

So far we have:

BOG: Goku loses to Beerus.
ROF: Time had to be rewound
U6: Hit throws the match
Future Trunks: Zeno FTW.


I know some people disagree with me but Id like to see Goku/Vegeta drill a win home for U7.
Wouldn't mind seeing someone from U7 win in the end. It's pretty predictable imo if they lose again, but not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't mind. Say Goku vs. Jiren is the last fight, I wouldn't really care if Jiren won, if Goku won, or if it was a stalemate as long as it's written in a way where it entertains me and is a satisfying conclusion.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:18 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
The gr wrote: is similar to my idea viewtopic.php?f=25&t=36761&p=1271478#p1271478, but i prefer Goku loses, and jiren restore Everything​
That ending wouldn't be bad on its own...but if Goku/Vegeta can't handle the problem on their own again Ill start being a bit sick of Super.

So far we have:

BOG: Goku loses to Beerus.
ROF: Time had to be rewound
U6: Hit throws the match
Future Trunks: Zeno FTW.


I know some people disagree with me but Id like to see Goku/Vegeta drill a win home for U7.
Wouldn't mind seeing someone from U7 win in the end. It's pretty predictable imo if they lose again, but not necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't mind. Say Goku vs. Jiren is the last fight, I wouldn't really care if Jiren won, if Goku won, or if it was a stalemate as long as it's written in a way where it entertains me and is a satisfying conclusion.
Yeah its a tough position for me because that ending is actually good in its own right. I just kind of feel like the "Goku/Vegeta lose but everything ends up okay" thing is getting a bit stale.

Last arc shook that up a bit with the dark ending ill give them that.
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Re: Goku can't fight Toppo, Jiren and Hit so...

Post by MKCSTEALTH » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:56 pm

I think Jiren is gonna take out Hit, Vegeta is gonna be fighting that unknown female fighter he fights in the intro, and maybe the others will take on Toppo and the rest of the Pride Troopers (which lets be honest, they're going after U7 at this point)

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Post by Danimon » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:58 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Danimon wrote:I really believe Hit will be losing against Jiren, just to hype him.
Hit lost (tie?) to goku Blue and his time dome was shattered, goku Blue is weaker than jiren..
Its natural he loses to him..
Super does illogical stuff yes, but not everything it does is worng
Yeah, I was not saying it like it was something bad, I just believe they will have them fight to show us how strong is Jiren

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