"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by mfwlegend3 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:20 am

Basako wrote:how they fuse,
We saw it in the raw. Goku asks Vegeta to fuse, Vegeta resists and attacks Zamasu, gets pinned down, THEN finally gives in.
what they say about the retcon,
You see them defuse. Literally it's the one-hour situation.
what Trunks role will be, if he has one,
Trunks says in the raw that he wants to fight too since it's his future and all that shit. I don't care about Trunks' intervention. It's what I hated the most.
what will happen with future Zeno, what will Trunks and Mai do in the end.
You see two Zunos in the Universal Survival arc teaser that showed Toyo's manga panels. I don't care about what Trunks and Mai will do.

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Post by Basako » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:20 am

I knew it, Vegetto using the his ki sword too. I love it! That wasn't in the anime.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:20 am

Looks like Zamasu needs a hand ok that was cheesy.
Zamasu: DAAAAAA "hands come off
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Post by Kanassa » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:21 am

Did Zamasu just attempt the Mafuubaa, or did I look at that wrong? Because that's be pretty cool...
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:23 am

Legion wrote:[[spoiler]img]http://i.imgur.com/ubMlIKJ.jpg[/img]
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Sweet! More Vegetto!! Whoa he cut on his arms and he can regenerate? Hmm.

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Post by Basako » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:35 am

Vegetto blue cutting merged Zamasu's hands and kicking his green ass hard looks great. Toyo showing high quality battles again and that's just one thing. Can't wait to see the whole thing.
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Post by Beyond » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:39 am

So either Trunks doesnt do much in his own arc or he is gets an even bigger BS boost. The manga and anime are so very different and appease to relatively different audiences to. It's like character driven vs logic driven(unless Trunks actually gets the BS boost). I'd rather take the wonky power levels and weird story of the anime. Of course this is just assumptions at this point, but as someone who values characters more than anything else I can't get down with this lack of anyone but Goku and Vegeta, especially when I'm not a hardcore fan of either. Why can't there be a middle ground?

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:50 am

Maybe trunks dosen't get a boost, but when vegetto blue defusing has Zamasu's guard down, Trunks shoves his sword in Zamasu's head from behind, goku and Vegeta blast him at the same time, before Zamasu could regenerate trunks cuts him up like he did to freeza..
This takes us the universal Zamasu
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Post by Basako » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:50 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:
Basako wrote:how they fuse,
We saw it in the raw. Goku asks Vegeta to fuse, Vegeta resists and attacks Zamasu, gets pinned down, THEN finally gives in.
what they say about the retcon,
You see them defuse. Literally it's the one-hour situation.
what Trunks role will be, if he has one,
Trunks says in the raw that he wants to fight too since it's his future and all that shit. I don't care about Trunks' intervention. It's what I hated the most.
what will happen with future Zeno, what will Trunks and Mai do in the end.
You see two Zunos in the Universal Survival arc teaser that showed Toyo's manga panels. I don't care about what Trunks and Mai will do.
Man, I didn't have those raws. The whole conclusion is yet to know how will be, next chapter. Yeah, I know, we saw two Zenos in the promo, we know some things, but there are a lot of hows we don't know. Like we know the saiyans are gonna win, but how. I do care what Trunks and Mai will do in the end, how is not that important? Maybe the same than the anime or maybe not. About this chapter, there are still so many details to know, I've seen no more than ten pages and they are about fourty every month, plus the translations. What I've seen for now, I love it.
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Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:57 am

I think Toyo rushed these last few chapters so the the could get ahead of the anime. I think he's currently way ahead in comparison to his release schedule.

I hope that's not base Goku taking Hurd from Merged Zamasu.
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Post by alakazam^ » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:08 am

Just remember that not all pages have leaked yet.

Chapter 23 - The true worth of the Potara
[spoiler]Zamasu: Now, mortals, I'll have you pay the price for going against the Gods...
Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Goku: You know, we turned into that as well!
Vegeeta: I... I see... It's the same fusion as Veget.

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Kaioushin: Ohhh, he did it...!?

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Vegeeta: S-shit!
Trunks: D-did he attack just now? I didn't see a thing!
Goku: Damn it... when did he...
Zamasu: So this is the power of the Potara... this is what fusion is like...!

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Goku: Vegeeta.
Vegeeta: What?
Goku: We can also Potara fuse but... what do you want to do?
Vegeeta: You're kidding, right? I thought I said I'll never fuse with you again.
Goku: That's what I thought. I'm sorry, Kaioushin-sama, it is what it is so I'll return them to you. We really want to fight on our own.
Kaioushin: That's... even in a time like this...
Vegeeta: Kakarrot, you stay here and watch. I'll be fighting first.

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Kaioushin: Oh... Back then with Majin Boo... So the fusion broke because of that... It wasn't because of Majin Boo's influence but because of the time...! I didn't know that...
Trunks: I don't understand very well but, anyway, it's fine if it holds for one hour, right? If you need someone to stall for time I can do it.
Vegeeta: What are you saying, Trunks? You stay here!
Trunks: No, I'll also fight. Even if Mai and I are the only ones, it's still our world. There's no way I'll let Father and Goku sacrifice yourselves in this world. This is for my late Mother's sake as well.
Vegeeta: For Bloomer's sake?

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Trunks: Yes! Father passed away early and Mother, who had to raise me all by herself, looked very lonely. I'd get asked a lot about Father, after I went to the past with the time machine and met you. In fact, Mother was supposed to come with me to the past if she hadn't been killed by Black. Mother... I wonder if what she actually wanted was to meet Father of the past instead of running away from Black.
Vegeeta: Bloomer...
Trunks: I don't want to keep making Mother feel sad! Mother of the past is waiting for your return so, for her sake, I won't let you die here!
Vegeeta: Say those things when you can fight properly on your own!

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Goku: I can't draw out my strength at all... The last senzu... should I eat it?
Vegeeta: Kakarrot!
Goku: What is it, Vegeeta?
Vegeeta: Give it to me!
Goku: What!? Why! Let's decide first who gets to eat the last bean.

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Veget: My name is Veget. I'm a warrior born from the same Potara fusion as you.
Zamasu: Mortals fusing...?
Veget: Could it be you didn't know mortals could fuse as well? Hahaha, no wonder you were laughing that much. In that case, I'll tell you another thing you don't know.
Zamasu: What?
Veget: It seems your Potara fusion will break in one hour.
Zamasu: What did you say?
Veget: You still haven't become a Kaioushin so you're just like us, mortals.

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Veget: Hey hey, you're forgetting your hands, Zamasu!

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Zamasu: This can't be happening!

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Zamasu: Die and repent your sins, mortal!!!!
Veget: Ha!!!!

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Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Kaioushin: The fusion broke!!!
Trunks: Why!!?[/spoiler]

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Post by Grimlock » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:17 am

Merged Zamasu has a time limit!? :crazy:

Toyotaro did acknowledge the "bad influence" from before!? :crazy: It's a retcon after all!

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Post by Abel Taylor » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:17 am

alakazam^ wrote:Just remember that not all pages have leaked yet.

Chapter 23 - The true worth of the Potara
[spoiler]Zamasu: Now, mortals, I'll have you pay the price for going against the Gods...
Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Goku: You know, we turned into that as well!
Vegeeta: I... I see... It's the same fusion as Veget.

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Kaioushin: Ohhh, he did it...!?

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Vegeeta: S-shit!
Trunks: D-did he attack just now? I didn't see a thing!
Goku: Damn it... when did he...
Zamasu: So this is the power of the Potara... this is what fusion is like...!

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Goku: Vegeeta.
Vegeeta: What?
Goku: We can also Potara fuse but... what do you want to do?
Vegeeta: You're kidding, right? I thought I said I'll never fuse with you again.
Goku: That's what I thought. I'm sorry, Kaioushin-sama, it is what it is so I'll return them to you. We really want to fight on our own.
Kaioushin: That's... even in a time like this...
Vegeeta: Kakarrot, you stay here and watch. I'll be fighting first.

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Kaioushin: Oh... Back then with Majin Boo... So the fusion broke because of that... It wasn't because of Majin Boo's influence but because of the time...! I didn't know that...
Trunks: I don't understand very well but, anyway, it's fine if it holds for one hour, right? If you need someone to stall for time I can do it.
Vegeeta: What are you saying, Trunks? You stay here!
Trunks: No, I'll also fight. Even if Mai and I are the only ones, it's still our world. There's no way I'll let Father and Goku sacrifice yourselves in this world. This is for my llate Mother's sake as well.
Vegeeta: For Bloomer's sake?

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Trunks: Yes! Father passed away early and Mother, who had to raise me all by herself, looked very lonely. I'd get asked a lot about Father, after I went to the past with the tima machine and met you. In fact, Mother was supposed to come with me to the past if she hadn't been killed by Black. Mother... I wonder if what she actually wanted was to meet Father of the past instead of running away from Black.
Vegeeta: Bloomer...
Trunks: I don't want to keep making Mother feel sad! I won't let Father die here, for the sake of Mother of the past, that is waiting for your return!
Vegeeta: Say those things when you can fight properly on your own!

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Goku: I can't draw out my strength at all... The last senzu... should I eat it?
Vegeeta: Kakarrot!
Goku: What is it, Vegeeta?
Vegeeta: Give it to me!
Goku: What!? Why! Let's decide first who gets to eat the last bean.

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Veget: My name is Veget. I'm a warrior born from the same Potara fusion as you.
Zamasu: Mortals fusing...?
Veget: Could it be you didn't know mortals could fuse as well? Hahaha, no wonder you were laughing that much. In that case, I'll tell you another thing you don't know.
Zamasu: What?
Veget: It seems your Potara fusion will brake in one hour.
Zamasu: What did you say?
Veget: You still haven't become a Kaioushin so you're just like us, mortals.

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Veget: Hey hey, you're forgetting your hands, Zamasu!

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Zamasu: This can't be happening!

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Zamasu: Die and repent your sins, mortal!!!!
Veget: Ha!!!!

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Vegeeta: Th-this is...
Kaioushin: The fusion broke!!!
Trunks: Why!!?[/spoiler]
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Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:21 am

wow they retconned fusion in the manga. SMH if zamazu's time limit going to run out just stall and don't fuse i guess.

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Post by TheMikado » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:22 am

The hand chopping!! That was utterly ridiculously amazing. I will say Zamasu just seems incredibly powerful. It doesn't seem to bestow any God like attributes. Also looks like he is still technically not a Kaioshin yet.

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Post by Kanassa » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:26 am

Oh, and here I was thinking Trunks had forgotten that his mother was dead.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:31 am

Vegetto: Hey hey, you're forgetting your hands, Zamasu!

Daaaamnn son :clap:

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Post by zamasu121 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:34 am

Can somebody explain to me what is going on here?
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

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Post by mfwlegend3 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:35 am

OK, Merged Zamasu defusing will be funny as fuck to see.

What a failure.

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Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:41 am

zamasu121 wrote:Can somebody explain to me what is going on here?
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Goku fired a massenko it looks like by the way it went through his body

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