Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

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Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by WittyUsername » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:58 pm

Between the fact that it's God of Destruction is a lazy prick who blows up planets over extremely petty things, the fact that it apparently has an incompetent police force, the fact that it was dominated by Freeza's empire for at least several decades, and the fact that so many planets ended up being destroyed to the point where there are only 28 planets that still have sentient life on them, it honestly seems like Goku and his friends live in what is essentially the Multiverse equivalent of a 3rd world country.

Does that sound like a fair assessment?

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:17 pm

We don't know enough about the other universes to say.
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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by Beyond » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:29 pm

Universe 5 and 11 is where it's at. Justice and balance is what it's all about. U7 you will die and be wished back if your lucky. That's an automatic "I don't want to live there" in my book. Your walking down the street one day and boom pink ki blast takes you out. You think that happens in U5 and U11? No they care about keeping the people safe there.

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Post by ckal9 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:06 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:We don't know enough about the other universes to say.

I don't think this is true. We know U7 ranks 2nd lowest among the, for lack of a better word, evolved rating. The other universes have across the board far more intelligent and evolved sentient beings. 4 (it's 4 that aren't competing, right?) of these Zeno deems too worthy to even compete in the tournament. At least one universe has a universal police force which is extremely effective.

By comparison, U7 is a complete wreck.

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Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:39 am

WittyUsername wrote:Between the fact that it's God of Destruction is a lazy prick who blows up planets over extremely petty things, the fact that it apparently has an incompetent police force, the fact that it was dominated by Freeza's empire for at least several decades, and the fact that so many planets ended up being destroyed to the point where there are only 28 planets that still have sentient life on them, it honestly seems like Goku and his friends live in what is essentially the Multiverse equivalent of a 3rd world country.

Does that sound like a fair assessment?
what police force is incompetent, and what is the police going to do against galactic threats :wtf:

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by WittyUsername » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:50 am

jplaya2023 wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:Between the fact that it's God of Destruction is a lazy prick who blows up planets over extremely petty things, the fact that it apparently has an incompetent police force, the fact that it was dominated by Freeza's empire for at least several decades, and the fact that so many planets ended up being destroyed to the point where there are only 28 planets that still have sentient life on them, it honestly seems like Goku and his friends live in what is essentially the Multiverse equivalent of a 3rd world country.

Does that sound like a fair assessment?
what police force is incompetent, and what is the police going to do against galactic threats :wtf:
Jaco certainly isn't very competent, and the Galactice Patrol in general was apparently completely useless against Freeza's empire. I'm not saying that they need to be stronger than Freeza, but it doesn't seem like they were able to put the slightest dent in his empire.

Compare that to the Pride Troopers, who are not only competent and powerful fighters who seem to regularly combat genuine threats to the universe, but also have the full support of their universes God of Destruction.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:51 am

jplaya2023 wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:Between the fact that it's God of Destruction is a lazy prick who blows up planets over extremely petty things, the fact that it apparently has an incompetent police force, the fact that it was dominated by Freeza's empire for at least several decades, and the fact that so many planets ended up being destroyed to the point where there are only 28 planets that still have sentient life on them, it honestly seems like Goku and his friends live in what is essentially the Multiverse equivalent of a 3rd world country.

Does that sound like a fair assessment?
what police force is incompetent, and what is the police going to do against galactic threats :wtf:
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Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:06 am

we never heard of galactic patrol until super. I always thought it was a little gaggish to introduce bulma's sister.

jaco is probably weaker than zarbon and he's the strongest, they seem to be more like a joke than a force.

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Post by julianix » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:27 am

Considering Toppo was out on a classy stroll enjoying some fine dining, that tells me the level of intelligence they have compared to our top guy who probably barely knows how to spell his name.

Yes u7 is a 3rd world country at best.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:29 am

Universe 7 is second from the bottom in Mortal Level for a reason.

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Post by WittyUsername » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:34 pm

jplaya2023 wrote:we never heard of galactic patrol until super. I always thought it was a little gaggish to introduce bulma's sister.

jaco is probably weaker than zarbon and he's the strongest, they seem to be more like a joke than a force.
I'm fairly certain Jaco is weaker than Nappa, given how reluctant he was to fight a bunch of generic Freeza soldiers that Roshi was able to hold his own against.

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Post by jplaya2023 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:29 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Universe 7 is second from the bottom in Mortal Level for a reason.
Mainly because U7 is normal humans while other universes you can guess are probably monsters that evolved stronger than humans are.

We also don't know how they rank or how mortal level is defined. U7 is the only universe that has members who have actual god ki/power

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Post by YajirobiTheGreat » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Loosely populated physically powerful warlike uncultured people. I think they might be more akin to barbarians who raided Rome, China, and Persia.

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by Hit!! » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:58 pm

YajirobiTheGreat wrote:Loosely populated physically powerful warlike uncultured people. I think they might be more akin to barbarians who raided Rome, China, and Persia.
If by "barbarians" you're referring to the germanic indo european tribesmen that were responsible for the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century, they never raided China nor Persia. But the analogy is valid.

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Honestly, yeah. Universe 7 is horribly mismanaged. The Kaioshin and Hakaishin are terrible at their jobs. This point is hammered home by the fact that only 28 planets in the entire universe have any kind life on them. Beerus nukes planet for shits and giggles at time and Kaioshin was dealt with the Majin Boo fiasco. But even then he doesn't really do his homework on his own universe properly.

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by AloversGaming » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Beyond wrote:Universe 5 and 11 is where it's at. Justice and balance is what it's all about. U7 you will die and be wished back if your lucky. That's an automatic "I don't want to live there" in my book. Your walking down the street one day and boom pink ki blast takes you out. You think that happens in U5 and U11? No they care about keeping the people safe there.
Gotta agree, man. U7 is lucky it has the Dragon Balls, or planet Earth; one of the better planets U7 has, would be either an empty rock sold by Freeza, or Planet Hell ruled by King PIccolo, maybe someone even worse.

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by YajirobiTheGreat » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:20 pm

Hit!! wrote:
YajirobiTheGreat wrote:Loosely populated physically powerful warlike uncultured people. I think they might be more akin to barbarians who raided Rome, China, and Persia.
If by "barbarians" you're referring to the germanic indo european tribesmen that were responsible for the fall of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century, they never raided China nor Persia. But the analogy is valid.
I'm also referring to nomadic peoples throughout much of Eurasia who frequently raided those civilizations.

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Re: Is it fair to say that Universe 7 is basically a Crapsack World?

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:51 pm

jplaya2023 wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Universe 7 is second from the bottom in Mortal Level for a reason.
Mainly because U7 is normal humans while other universes you can guess are probably monsters that evolved stronger than humans are.

We also don't know how they rank or how mortal level is defined. U7 is the only universe that has members who have actual god ki/power

Okay...to your previous post: Jaco is NOT the strongest. He's actually considered a joke among the patrol.

To this post - Toppo was once in line to be a God of Destruction and you think he doesn't have that power?
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