"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[pacz360]

At this point I think Toyotaro is just trolling everybody with his "homages". At least one per chapter? Come the fuck on!

It was nice at first but now it's irritating

I was never really on board with it, but it didn't bother me much, not to mention that there were minor stuff copied, but this arc with Trunks' flashback and now Merged Zamasu he's taking from scenes that ANYONE can recognize. I used to be more subtle.

Yeah I agree before it was OK but now it's like he can draw anything on his own.

[OLKv3]

The annoying part about his tracing is that he doesn't need to do it. Trunks vs Black, Goku vs Frost, they had no "homages" and they were pretty good battles. Creative choreography too. Maybe he's gotten double his workload or something, I don't know, but the last 2 chapters have been pretty weak artwise. He's usually much better than this

[Totamo]

/a/ is filled with a lot of damage control and people losing hope, I love it. Today is amazing.

Truth be told, if you are in super this long and hope its going to get better.



You are kinda being not intelligent. if the show was going to change, it would have done it in U6. Super is Super. We take this or we leave it because quite frankly, this is a cashgrab and its doing its job.

Pretty much if you hate it just drop it and move on
Saves you the trouble. Honestly

I don't really understand the mentality that "I love a franchise so I keep watching even if i think its bad"


I loved Fairy tail, I dropped that shit after the nirvana arc.
I loved Naruto, I dropped that shit after Pain was defeated.
I loved Bleach, I dropped that shit after they rescued Rukia the first time.
I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.


And from what I have seen around the community, I made the right choice.

Like I'm not defending super, tori, toyo or toei because there is indeed some awful writing here but we are nearly 90 episodes and 24 chapters in, if you are hoping super gets better, it won't. You are lying to yourself and just bashing it, won't make it better because they are still getting your money. Which is really all they care about.


To really show your distaste for this series, drop it and stop giving them your money. Thats how shows get better or canceled.

[pacz360]

Truth be told, if you are in super this long and hope its going to get better.



You are kinda being not intelligent. if the show was going to change, it would have done it in U6. Super is Super. We take this or we leave it because quite frankly, this is a cashgrab and its doing its job.

Pretty much if you hate it just drop it and move on
Saves you the trouble. Honestly

I don't really understand the mentality that "I love a franchise so I keep watching even if i think its bad"


I loved Fairy tail, I dropped that shit after the nirvana arc.
I loved Naruto, I dropped that shit after Pain was defeated.
I loved Bleach, I dropped that shit after they rescued Rukia the first time.
I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.


And from what I have seen around the community, I made the right choice.

Like I'm not defending super, tori, toyo or toei because there is indeed some awful writing here but we are nearly 90 episodes and 24 chapters in, if you are hoping super gets better, it won't. You are lying to yourself and just bashing it, won't make it better because they are still getting your money. Which is really all they care about.


To really show your distaste for this series, drop it and stop giving them your money. Thats how shows get better or canceled.

Loyalty it seems even if it's terrible you wanna finish it to the end.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Gogeta isn't canon and never will be. Deal with it.

i can't deal with it, i'm angry. Toto said this was going to be different and he lied to the fans again. I don't get it. He's already changed so much from the anime that adding gogeta wouldn't hurt

He only said that things would go a little differently, as in the exact same thing he's been doing for about a year now. There have been no lies. If you were expecting more, it's really no one's fault but your own, cause he sure didn't promise anything else.

[Totamo]

Pretty much if you hate it just drop it and move on
Saves you the trouble. Honestly

I don't really understand the mentality that "I love a franchise so I keep watching even if i think its bad"


I loved Fairy tail, I dropped that shit after the nirvana arc.
I loved Naruto, I dropped that shit after Pain was defeated.
I loved Bleach, I dropped that shit after they rescued Rukia the first time.
I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.


And from what I have seen around the community, I made the right choice.

Like I'm not defending super, tori, toyo or toei because there is indeed some awful writing here but we are nearly 90 episodes and 24 chapters in, if you are hoping super gets better, it won't. You are lying to yourself and just bashing it, won't make it better because they are still getting your money. Which is really all they care about.


To really show your distaste for this series, drop it and stop giving them your money. Thats how shows get better or canceled.

Loyalty it seems even if it's terrible you wanna finish it to the end.

But cashbrabs don't end when they run out of stories, they end when they run out of money.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Truth be told, if you are in super this long and hope its going to get better.



You are kinda being not intelligent. if the show was going to change, it would have done it in U6. Super is Super. We take this or we leave it because quite frankly, this is a cashgrab and its doing its job.

Pretty much if you hate it just drop it and move on
Saves you the trouble. Honestly

I don't really understand the mentality that "I love a franchise so I keep watching even if i think its bad"


I loved Fairy tail, I dropped that shit after the nirvana arc.
I loved Naruto, I dropped that shit after Pain was defeated.
I loved Bleach, I dropped that shit after they rescued Rukia the first time.
I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.


And from what I have seen around the community, I made the right choice.

Like I'm not defending super, tori, toyo or toei because there is indeed some awful writing here but we are nearly 90 episodes and 24 chapters in, if you are hoping super gets better, it won't. You are lying to yourself and just bashing it, won't make it better because they are still getting your money. Which is really all they care about.


To really show your distaste for this series, drop it and stop giving them your money. Thats how shows get better or canceled.

The current arc fights all been from good-great tho. infact its first fights was pretty much better done than every fight in the u6 arc and most fights in the trunks to.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Damn the depression of Super is really settling in for people. Usually people rush to say the manga sucks and all that, but now people are just saying the series as a whole is disappointing

I guess people were really hoping the end of the arc would change

I have only seen three people in this very thread that call both the anime and manga garbage due to this chapter lol. I have seen over 1000 comments say that the last jedi teaser trailer was trash, yet it every video of it has like around 98% percent likes and 2% percent dislikes.

on this video with spoilers and shows manga vegito from Geekdom101 everybody is just talking about female broly to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkTOVekn1I

none of them are saying the manga or the anime sucks.

One top comment just says toyo just needs to hurry up to the current arc already tho.

[Ki Breaker]

Damn the depression of Super is really settling in for people. Usually people rush to say the manga sucks and all that, but now people are just saying the series as a whole is disappointing

I guess people were really hoping the end of the arc would change

I have only seen three people in this very thread that call both the anime and manga garbade lol

on this video with spoilers and shows manga vegito from Geekdom101 everybody is just talking about female broly to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkTOVekn1I

none of them are saying the manga or the anime sucks.

One top comment just says toyo just needs to hurry up to the current arc already tho.

I wouldn't pay YouTube comments too much attention, top comments mean nothing, if kanzenshuu has people upset over both then that's a real issue

[Kanassa]

I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.

How'd you get through Volume 2?

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Damn the depression of Super is really settling in for people. Usually people rush to say the manga sucks and all that, but now people are just saying the series as a whole is disappointing

I guess people were really hoping the end of the arc would change

I have only seen three people in this very thread that call both the anime and manga garbade lol

on this video with spoilers and shows manga vegito from Geekdom101 everybody is just talking about female broly to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkTOVekn1I

none of them are saying the manga or the anime sucks.

One top comment just says toyo just needs to hurry up to the current arc already tho.

I wouldn't pay YouTube comments too much attention, top comments mean nothing, if kanzenshuu has people upset over both then that's a real issue

three people in this very called both the anime and manga garbage and that's no where to even 10% of the people that daily goes on this fourm(so it's like that is any where near close to the general opinion on it here.) and don't see how people opinion here matter, including mine, matters more than any of other place.

on that video I posted I don't any body bashing the manga or the anime. There just talking about female Broly.

I don't even see a shitstorm like I almost always do.

[Totamo]

I loved RWBY, that inspired me to be an animator, dropped after volume 3.

How'd you get through Volume 2?

The action, man.

Rwby was bad writing, good action


I watched it for the same reason, I watch super it was fun with questionable writing.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh, what's the matter Baggie_Saiyan? Don't tell me you're upset? Isn't you that always talk like Super as a flawless masterpiece and its issues regarding power scaling and plot consistency can always be justified because these same issues were present in Z?

Firstly, I was "upset" because I wanted to see more of Vegetto drawn by Toyo not because of plot related problems, and I don't talk about Super like it is some flawless masterpiece, I have made it known I wasn't a fan of Toyo's rendition of this arc, I have also made it quite well known that I hated the retellings and disliked the U6 arc. The only difference is I do not chose to dwell on the negatives, so I do not appreciate being called out like this at all. And even then if your post was correct and I do think Super is a flawless masterpiece am then I not allowed to be "upset" then ever?

[Ki Breaker]

I have only seen three people in this very thread that call both the anime and manga garbade lol

on this video with spoilers and shows manga vegito from Geekdom101 everybody is just talking about female broly to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAkTOVekn1I

none of them are saying the manga or the anime sucks.

One top comment just says toyo just needs to hurry up to the current arc already tho.

I wouldn't pay YouTube comments too much attention, top comments mean nothing, if kanzenshuu has people upset over both then that's a real issue

three people in this very called both the anime and manga garbage and that's no where to even 10% of the people that daily goes on this fourm(so it's like that is any where near close to the general opinion on it here.) and don't see how people opinion here matter, including mine, matters more than any of other place.

on that video I posted I don't any body bashing the manga or the anime. There just talking about female Broly.

I don't even see a shitstorm like I almost always do.

Kanzenshuu members usually speak with full experience, most experienced people know what they are taking about and possess the skills to predict how a certain thing will be perceived when it hits the market..
YouTube in the other hand has comments for the moment, there's not much insight or thoughts out into it, it's very rare for it to be the case..

If the idea exists and isn't immediately debunked here, it's having a good possibility of being the idea of many in the future..
Stick around and you get what this means

[Helios518]

Gogeta isn't canon and never will be. Deal with it.

i can't deal with it, i'm angry. Toto said this was going to be different and he lied to the fans again. I don't get it. He's already changed so much from the anime that adding gogeta wouldn't hurt

1) A fan isn't entitled anything from the creator.

2) Gogeta wasn't promised, only change was promised (which he definitely gave us so far). He didn't lie to us.

3) Seeing as how Vegetto is both in the manga and anime, he was most likely in Toriyama's outline which Toyotaro follows closely.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

I wouldn't pay YouTube comments too much attention, top comments mean nothing, if kanzenshuu has people upset over both then that's a real issue

three people in this very called both the anime and manga garbage and that's no where to even 10% of the people that daily goes on this fourm(so it's like that is any where near close to the general opinion on it here.) and don't see how people opinion here matter, including mine, matters more than any of other place.

on that video I posted I don't any body bashing the manga or the anime. There just talking about female Broly.

I don't even see a shitstorm like I almost always do.

[Kanzenshuu members usually speak with full experience, most experienced people know what they are taking about and possess the skills to predict how a certain thing will be perceived when it hits the market..
YouTube in the other hand has comments for the moment, there's not much insight or thoughts out into it, it's very rare for it to be the case..

If the idea exists and isn't immediately debunked here, it's having a good possibility of being the idea of many in the future..
Stick around and you get what this means

I can debunk that quite fast, heres one already I say a lot of people here say that Gohan will never be important at all in super and now he is the second most important person after Goku in the current arc, I can bring up more but I'm to busy playing Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix on the PS4 to care what people will think of this chapter, you all have good day tho.

[Ki Breaker]

I can debunk that quite fast, heres one already I say a lot of people here say that Gohan will never be important at all in super and now he is the second most important person after Goku in the current arc, I can bring up more but I'm to busy playing Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix on the PS4 to care what people will think of this chapter, you all have good day tho.

That was debated over quite a while because of this very reason, I am one of those who defended Gohan will come back into action..
You are free to follow what you want, it's just an advice, do what you want with it

[Duo]

It was nice at first but now it's irritating

I was never really on board with it, but it didn't bother me much, not to mention that there were minor stuff copied, but this arc with Trunks' flashback and now Merged Zamasu he's taking from scenes that ANYONE can recognize. I used to be more subtle.

Yeah I agree before it was OK but now it's like he can draw anything on his own.

You're talking about a handful of panels out of hundreds of pages. Get serious.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I was never really on board with it, but it didn't bother me much, not to mention that there were minor stuff copied, but this arc with Trunks' flashback and now Merged Zamasu he's taking from scenes that ANYONE can recognize. I used to be more subtle.

Yeah I agree before it was OK but now it's like he can draw anything on his own.

You're talking about a handful of panels out of hundreds of pages. Get serious.

Narrow it down strictly to pages with fighting choreography, and you'll get a more accurate scope. It's more common than you seem to think.

[Ki Breaker]

I was never really on board with it, but it didn't bother me much, not to mention that there were minor stuff copied, but this arc with Trunks' flashback and now Merged Zamasu he's taking from scenes that ANYONE can recognize. I used to be more subtle.

Yeah I agree before it was OK but now it's like he can draw anything on his own.

You're talking about a handful of panels out of hundreds of pages. Get serious.

Yup, to be honest I didn't even know he did that till pointed out..
It's perfectly alright, not every single pose needs to be thought on his own, when he is possibly working on the next arc as well