"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:49 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Really love that new character design. Judging by the translation seems like they are saying she's another new saiyan besides the one shown in the Opening. Different people then.
From what I understand it doesn't say that they are the same character or separate characters.

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Post by Boo Machine » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:51 pm

TekTheNinja wrote: Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
When has Piccolo ever told anyone to fuck off? Isn't Piccolos entire character that he is the level headed one? Telling people off for prides sake doesn't sound like being level headed at all. In fact it sounds more like something Vegeta might do.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:55 pm

Boo Machine wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote: Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
When has Piccolo ever told anyone to fuck off? Isn't Piccolos entire character that he is the level headed one? Telling people off for prides sake doesn't sound like being level headed at all. In fact it sounds more like something Vegeta might do.
Well Piccolo seemed like he would be the first to call someone on their crap. Like Goku at the Cell Games.

He wouldn't say it so rudely though. He doesn't tell people off so much as state his opinion or voice reason.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:56 pm

kinisking wrote:
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Goku isn't an asshole to him, he's honest. Nothing he's said was really untrue. Gokus always been blunt.
Are you forgetting the multiple other times he's been an asshole, such as ignoring Piccolo after he offered to teach Goku the mafuba.
So Piccolo giving his match to Vegeta is OOC? How so?
Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
Goku didn't ignore him, he just left before Piccolo could say anything.

Since when has Piccolo ever been that assertive? He can't control kids, how is he supposed to control Vegeta? It was clear that Piccolo realized that this wasn't the place for him. He would've been crushed by the next challenger and he knew it.
You know that is a lie. Vegeta and his impatience is why Piccolo let him go against Frost and didn't Gohan say in episode 85 that Piccolo likes facing strong opponents.
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TekTheNinja wrote: Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
When has Piccolo ever told anyone to fuck off? Isn't Piccolos entire character that he is the level headed one? Telling people off for prides sake doesn't sound like being level headed at all. In fact it sounds more like something Vegeta might do.
Piccolo still had some tension with Vegeta and the rest simply respected him way too much to even say a bad word to him and if they did he would always say something to them.

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Post by jeffbr92 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:57 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
But didn't Piccolo became a calm person after having fused with Kami? I think it would be OOC for him to say fuck off to Vegeta lol
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Post by Boo Machine » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:59 pm

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Well Piccolo seemed like he would be the first to call someone on their crap. Like Goku at the Cell Games.

He wouldn't say it so rudely though. He doesn't tell people off so much as state his opinion or voice reason.
Oh, yeah. No doubt Piccolo would be the one to call someone out. He isn't the type to stand idly by, but he also isn't the saiyan "No! I wanna fight!" type either. He is a reasonable Green monster.
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Piccolo still had some tension with Vegeta and the rest simply respected him way too much to even say a bad word to him and if they did he would always say something to them.
Still had some tension in the U6 arc? Or do you mean in a previous arc from Z?
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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:08 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Boo Machine wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote: Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
When has Piccolo ever told anyone to fuck off? Isn't Piccolos entire character that he is the level headed one? Telling people off for prides sake doesn't sound like being level headed at all. In fact it sounds more like something Vegeta might do.
Well Piccolo seemed like he would be the first to call someone on their crap. Like Goku at the Cell Games.

He wouldn't say it so rudely though. He doesn't tell people off so much as state his opinion or voice reason.
Well obviously I didn't LITERALLY mean he'd tell him to fuck off. I meant he'd call him out on his bullshit like he always did.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:13 pm

Boo Machine wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Well Piccolo seemed like he would be the first to call someone on their crap. Like Goku at the Cell Games.

He wouldn't say it so rudely though. He doesn't tell people off so much as state his opinion or voice reason.
Oh, yeah. No doubt Piccolo would be the one to call someone out. He isn't the type to stand idly by, but he also isn't the saiyan "No! I wanna fight!" type either. He is a reasonable Green monster.
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Piccolo still had some tension with Vegeta and the rest simply respected him way too much to even say a bad word to him and if they did he would always say something to them.
Still had some tension in the U6 arc? Or do you mean in a previous arc from Z?
In previous arcs but now they respect each other more now. There seems to be an unspoken understanding between the 2.

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Post by SaiyanGod117 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:14 pm

Khin wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:I really don't like that a bunch of people are rolling with "Yamamuro probably just threw away Toriyama's design."
Agreed, changing her design to something different is so utterly pointless that I have no idea how some people came to his conclusion.

Most likely, she’ll wear a different outfit in the battle royal. Her purple outfit doesn’t look something suited for fighting and looks more like a regular/normal outfit, and that’s probably what she’ll look in her first appearance.

That’s definitely female Broli.

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I don't think it is, earrings are different and it looks like a male.

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Post by batistabus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Okay, so Broli and this character are meant to be the same person. I think it's quite possible that she'll change clothes and we'll get both appearances in both versions of Super.

[spoiler]If it's not, who the fuck at Toei took a look at that character design - the first full-blooded female Saiyan combatant in the main Dragon Ball storyline - and thought, "Meh, that's good and all, but what if she was Broli??"[/spoiler]

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Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:16 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
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TekTheNinja wrote: Are you forgetting the multiple other times he's been an asshole, such as ignoring Piccolo after he offered to teach Goku the mafuba.

Because Piccolo in Z would have never acted like such a pansy. He would have told Vegeta to fuck off with his stupid ass grudge.
Goku didn't ignore him, he just left before Piccolo could say anything.

Since when has Piccolo ever been that assertive? He can't control kids, how is he supposed to control Vegeta? It was clear that Piccolo realized that this wasn't the place for him. He would've been crushed by the next challenger and he knew it.
You know that is a lie. Vegeta and his impatience is why Piccolo let him go against Frost and didn't Gohan say in episode 85 that Piccolo likes facing strong opponents.
Piccolo likes fighting strong opponents sure. But he's a smart fighter and knows that he'd be insta KO'd.
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Post by TheMikado » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:20 pm

kinisking wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
kinisking wrote: Goku didn't ignore him, he just left before Piccolo could say anything.

Since when has Piccolo ever been that assertive? He can't control kids, how is he supposed to control Vegeta? It was clear that Piccolo realized that this wasn't the place for him. He would've been crushed by the next challenger and he knew it.
You know that is a lie. Vegeta and his impatience is why Piccolo let him go against Frost and didn't Gohan say in episode 85 that Piccolo likes facing strong opponents.
Piccolo likes fighting strong opponents sure. But he's a smart fighter and knows that he'd be insta KO'd.
I thought it was weird Piccolo basically forfeited without much of a fight too, but anyway there's nothing to suggest Piccolo was facing stronger opponents after Frost, specifically when Champa and Vados were saying that he's their strongest fighter. I guess you can make he argument that Piccolo didn't hear it but he did say he has like Super hearing or something dumb. Basically Piccolo probably could have beaten Cabba. Magenta is questionable but if he insulted him like Vegeta did because Piccolo sometimes does that too he could have won that round as well.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:06 pm

batistabus wrote:Okay, so Broli and this character are meant to be the same person. I think it's quite possible that she'll change clothes and we'll get both appearances in both versions of Super.

[spoiler]If it's not, who the fuck at Toei took a look at that character design - the first full-blooded female Saiyan combatant in the main Dragon Ball storyline - and thought, "Meh, that's good and all, but what if she was Broli??"[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Probably someone in the Dragon Ball Room who couldn't get Brolli shoehorned into Super in the traditional way.

It's really a shame because I like her Toriyama design so much more. There's no reason for her to be Brolli other than to please Brolli fans.

I want her to be able to stand on her own, not ride Brolli's coattails[/spoiler]
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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:11 pm

There's zero chance Toei throw away a Toriyama design.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:15 pm

They ditched Gokû and Vegeta's new dougi and armor. There's no reason for Vegeta to go back to his antiquated Cell arc armor when Bulma made him newer, better armor.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:21 pm

Chuquita wrote:They ditched Gokû and Vegeta's new dougi and armor. There's no reason for Vegeta to go back to his antiquated Cell arc armor when Bulma made him newer, better armor.
What makes you think that was a choice made by Toei? It's possible, but Toriyama could just as easily have suggested it.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:23 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Chuquita wrote:They ditched Gokû and Vegeta's new dougi and armor. There's no reason for Vegeta to go back to his antiquated Cell arc armor when Bulma made him newer, better armor.
What makes you think that was a choice made by Toei? It's possible, but Toriyama could just as easily have suggested it.
Toyotaro also reverted the outfits, so it might have been Toriyama's decision.
And they still used the new designs for two arcs, the idea that this design won't be used at all is pretty ridiculous.
They copy Toriyama's designs exactly, even down to blue hair for Trunks.
Plus the pony tail design doesn't look any more like Broly.
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Post by batistabus » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:44 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Chuquita wrote:They ditched Gokû and Vegeta's new dougi and armor. There's no reason for Vegeta to go back to his antiquated Cell arc armor when Bulma made him newer, better armor.
What makes you think that was a choice made by Toei? It's possible, but Toriyama could just as easily have suggested it.
Toyotaro also reverted the outfits, so it might have been Toriyama's decision.
And they still used the new designs for two arcs, the idea that this design won't be used at all is pretty ridiculous.
They copy Toriyama's designs exactly, even down to blue hair for Trunks.
I remember reading that when Toriyama contributed the new designs for RoF, he said something along the lines of "So I designed these outfits...you can use them if you like or just use the old ones." So maybe he's stood by that position and Toei has just decided to go with the old outfits for whatever reason. Toyotaro probably just went with what Toei decided.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:47 pm

I wonder if she'll be showing up soon since she was this month's feature character?

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Post by TheMikado » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:57 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:There's zero chance Toei throw away a Toriyama design.
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