"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Pantheon]

If you don't believe the no flying rule go rewatch the Goku vs Krillin fight. They specify they are using the tournament of power ruleset and neither of them fly at all during that fight even when it would be advantageous to do so. It's actually why Goku had to turn Super Saiyan against Krillin, it's because he couldn't fly to dodge out of the way of his attacks and needed to tank it so that he didn't get knocked out of the ring.

[The gr]

I'd like to see the original interview, because that translation is honestly quite strange in parts. For instance, i doubt a producer expands Toriyama's outline by himself. Is that even what an anime producer is supposed to do?

That's what the anime is doing, there expanding toriyama barebone plot outline, like the interview said, toriyama just literally past paper with words to toei, that's​ what a producer and director must complete, expand the outline but not differentiating that much from it

[OLKv3]

Where is this interview again? Anyone got a link?

[SaiyanGod117]

I'd like to see the original interview, because that translation is honestly quite strange in parts. For instance, i doubt a producer expands Toriyama's outline by himself. Is that even what an anime producer is supposed to do?

That's what the anime is doing, there expanding toriyama barebone plot outline, like the interview said, toriyama just literally past paper with words to toei, that's​ what a producer and director must complete, expand the outline but not differentiating that much from it

Well whichever is writing Super right now, needs to be fired or replaced, because the writing is absoulete shit at times. The most consistent and cohesive Super's ever been writing wise, were the BoG and RoF arc. You can attribute that to most of the plot being already written for them.

[Lapislettuce]

Interesting leaks we got this week. I gotta admit that Yamcha would be a better choice over Roshi like Goten and Trunks would be over Krillin and Tenshinhan, BUT It would be pretty lame if they decided to replace someone as a last-minute change, it wasn't a good idea on Champa Arc and wouldn't be a good one now.

I'd rather have Roshi on the team than Yamcha tbh ! Yamcha was proven to be so useless ever since his fight with the saibaman !

[The gr]

I'd like to see the original interview, because that translation is honestly quite strange in parts. For instance, i doubt a producer expands Toriyama's outline by himself. Is that even what an anime producer is supposed to do?

That's what the anime is doing, there expanding toriyama barebone plot outline, like the interview said, toriyama just literally past paper with words to toei, that's​ what a producer and director must complete, expand the outline but not differentiating that much from it

Well whichever is writing Super right now, needs to be fired or replaced, because the writing is absoulete shit at times. The most consistent and cohesive Super's ever been writing wise, were the BoG and RoF arc. You can attribute that to most of the plot being already written for them.

I think his name is sakurada,he along with toyotaro are expanding bare bone outline, so that's​ the guy right there,so hate on him all you want

[kinisking]

Interesting leaks we got this week. I gotta admit that Yamcha would be a better choice over Roshi like Goten and Trunks would be over Krillin and Tenshinhan, BUT It would be pretty lame if they decided to replace someone as a last-minute change, it wasn't a good idea on Champa Arc and wouldn't be a good one now.

I'd rather have Roshi on the team than Yamcha tbh ! Yamcha was proven to be so useless ever since his fight with the saibaman !

Yamcha just got unlucky there. Heck , Tien almost got into the same situation beforehand but got lucky. Yamcha is a skilled fighter.

It annoys me how too many people equate good writing and power level consistency. As long as it's entertaining, it's good writing in my book.

[TheMathemagician]

If you don't believe the no flying rule go rewatch the Goku vs Krillin fight. They specify they are using the tournament of power ruleset and neither of them fly at all during that fight even when it would be advantageous to do so. It's actually why Goku had to turn Super Saiyan against Krillin, it's because he couldn't fly to dodge out of the way of his attacks and needed to tank it so that he didn't get knocked out of the ring.

Kuririn and Gohan also fought with the tournament rules. Didn't Kuririn fly up in the air?

[Lapislettuce]

Interesting leaks we got this week. I gotta admit that Yamcha would be a better choice over Roshi like Goten and Trunks would be over Krillin and Tenshinhan, BUT It would be pretty lame if they decided to replace someone as a last-minute change, it wasn't a good idea on Champa Arc and wouldn't be a good one now.

I'd rather have Roshi on the team than Yamcha tbh ! Yamcha was proven to be so useless ever since his fight with the saibaman !

Yamcha just got unlucky there. Heck , Tien almost got into the same situation beforehand but got lucky. Yamcha is a skilled fighter.

It annoys me how too many people equate good writing and power level consistency. As long as it's entertaining, it's good writing in my book.

But Yamcha has screwed up many times,he's always the first to go down,not to mention he gave up on fighting entirely and didn't even try to hold Buu with Krillin and just ran away,same thing with Beerus although Krillin did the same thing.

[kinisking]

Nah, Yamcha has lost many times. He hasn't screwed up. Most of his failures are things he couldn't control. Vegetas genuinely screwed up in many ways, yet people honestly don't give him enough shit for it. It's not even that I hate Vegeta, he's definitely in my top 5 favorite characters and there was a time where I considered switching my favorite character from Gohan to Vegeta.

[Araki]

I'd like to see the original interview, because that translation is honestly quite strange in parts. For instance, i doubt a producer expands Toriyama's outline by himself. Is that even what an anime producer is supposed to do?

That's what the anime is doing, there expanding toriyama barebone plot outline, like the interview said, toriyama just literally past paper with words to toei, that's​ what a producer and director must complete, expand the outline but not differentiating that much from it

As i said, a producer isn't supposed to write anything by himself like that translation made it sound. They have a voice, yes, but expand on Toriyama's outline is probably a job for the writers, directors, the Dragon Ball room, Toyotaro, whatever, the point is there's certainly NOT a producer soloing it.
That is true even for smaller productions, now imagine a franchise with a toy/video game company, a tv network and a publisher, all giants in their respective areas, owning it just as much as the anime studio.

[kinisking]

I'd like to see the original interview, because that translation is honestly quite strange in parts. For instance, i doubt a producer expands Toriyama's outline by himself. Is that even what an anime producer is supposed to do?

That's what the anime is doing, there expanding toriyama barebone plot outline, like the interview said, toriyama just literally past paper with words to toei, that's​ what a producer and director must complete, expand the outline but not differentiating that much from it

As i said, a producer isn't supposed to write anything by himself like that translation made it sound. They have a voice, yes, but expand on Toriyama's outline is probably a job for the writers, directors, the Dragon Ball room, Toyotaro, whatever, the point is there's certainly NOT a producer soloing it.
That is true even for smaller productions, now imagine a franchise with a toy/video game company, a tv network and a publisher, all giants in their respective areas, owning it just as much as the anime studio.

Iirc this is the producer that's going to be helping super with it's schedule. It makes sense that he'd be the one planning out how the story beats go(planning out the episodes that will be less action intensive and so on ) so that it can improve it's schedule .

[Beyond]

If you don't believe the no flying rule go rewatch the Goku vs Krillin fight. They specify they are using the tournament of power ruleset and neither of them fly at all during that fight even when it would be advantageous to do so. It's actually why Goku had to turn Super Saiyan against Krillin, it's because he couldn't fly to dodge out of the way of his attacks and needed to tank it so that he didn't get knocked out of the ring.

Kuririn and Gohan also fought with the tournament rules. Didn't Kuririn fly up in the air?

The animation definitely made it look like he was flying instead of jumping, but who knows.

[ArchedThunder]

As i said, a producer isn't supposed to write anything by himself like that translation made it sound. They have a voice, yes, but expand on Toriyama's outline is probably a job for the writers, directors, the Dragon Ball room, Toyotaro, whatever, the point is there's certainly NOT a producer soloing it.
That is true even for smaller productions, now imagine a franchise with a toy/video game company, a tv network and a publisher, all giants in their respective areas, owning it just as much as the anime studio.

He was a planner on One Piece for years, so it's not like he's just some random producer.

[Ki Breaker]

Do you guys think Goku could use Instant Transmission to avoid a ring out? I can see it happening once before the Grand Priest announces "U7 will not be penalized as there was no rule against such a move. However if used again Goku will be disqualified"

Why disqualified?
It is a technique, he can spam it all he wants to avoid all kinds of danger..
That's like saying hit will be disqualified for using time stop as he can move in the ring and avoid ring out

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Producers work with the series director and series composer in the planning stages and draft the story. In Super's case expand upon Toriyama's outlines and change things around as we all know.

It's good to have confirmation that the producer is the one involved in the creative decision making and hopefully people will stop blaming the writers for everything now as they're not even making any decisions and are just doing what they're told to do.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I know it spawned from an interview that's quasi relevant to the thread, but please take the discussion about fighters, techniques, strengths and tournament rules to one that's more appropriate.

[Khin]

Image for episode #88:

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Seems like they won’t train in the Room of Spirit and Time.

[Freeza9000]

Image for episode #88:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Seems like they won’t train in the Room of Spirit and Time.

I really dig the dark cloudy sky as a background.

[MrBlackFox]

Flying is not allowed outside of the ring
Goku and Buu fly, Krillin in the opening throws a kienzan while flying