I can take or leave the acknowledging the hypocrisy, my problem with it is if a character gets so incomprehensible that you have no idea what he's even on about anymore. Zamasu is a really good example to where every line of dialogue of his makes less and less sense and he just becomes a rambling psycho by the end with no validity at all.Doctor. wrote:I think it completely breaks the villain if the characters don't acknowledge it in some way (be it other characters calling him out or the villain himself). It's fine if he knows he's a hypocrite and doesn't care, or the good guys know he's a hypocrite and they don't care about reasoning with him. It's different if the story is trying to portray the character's motivations as believable and trying to say the villain may have a leg to stand on morally when they don't even bother to acknowledge that he's being a hypocrite.ekrolo2 wrote:Hypocrisy doesn't break a villain. Some of the best one's of all time are total, blatant hypocrites like basically everyone of the mobsters in Godfather and Magneto.
Zamasu and Baby are both hypocrites. But Zamasu is humiliated for being a hypocrite in the sense that nobody takes him seriously. Nobody ever calls Baby out on using a Saiyan body or ruling over the universe despite him using what the Saiyans did as justification.
And I really dislike it when stories do that to a bad guy who, even taking his hypocrisy into account, does have some valid point which don't matter when they're a rambling psycho. Ultron dies with a lot of dignity inspite of having lots of holes in his logic.