17 As a Recurring Character

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17 As a Recurring Character

Post by Lapislettuce » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:29 pm

Do you guys see 17 sticking around with the rest of the cast after this ? considering he's become really strong and would be really useful and out of all the former villains he's the one who bonded with Goku the most he even admitted that he enjoyed chatting with him,and them fighting over who gets to fight the boss of the poachers was very cute too along with 18 noticing their similarities,i wonder if he will join permanently after this arc or he will just disappear like Future Trunks.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by precita » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:33 pm

If the next arc is a timeskip to the end of DBZ with Uub, then no probably not.

In a way this tournament seems like a "last hurrah" for the entire older DBZ cast (aside from Yamcha for some reason), before they move on and everyone gets too old. Trunks and Goten will probably be used when they're older teenagers with Uub and Pan.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by MrBlackFox » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:09 pm

precita wrote:If the next arc is a timeskip to the end of DBZ with Uub, then no probably not.

In a way this tournament seems like a "last hurrah" for the entire older DBZ cast (aside from Yamcha for some reason), before they move on and everyone gets too old. Trunks and Goten will probably be used when they're older teenagers with Uub and Pan.
This.

I feel this tournament like a swan song for the oldies, and then we'll pass to the new generation cast

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by kinisking » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:27 pm

MrBlackFox wrote:
precita wrote:If the next arc is a timeskip to the end of DBZ with Uub, then no probably not.

In a way this tournament seems like a "last hurrah" for the entire older DBZ cast (aside from Yamcha for some reason), before they move on and everyone gets too old. Trunks and Goten will probably be used when they're older teenagers with Uub and Pan.
This.

I feel this tournament like a swan song for the oldies, and then we'll pass to the new generation cast
I hope Gohan sticks. He has a good chance considering he's young, they're building him up as a fighter and he's pans father so he could have a mentor role.

And for 17, I honestly don't know. He doesn't really seem to care about protecting the earth or stuff like that. We'll see I guess. I hope he sticks.
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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by precita » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:13 pm

Gohan will probably still stick around, as well as Goku/Vegeta since Super can't seem to move away from the latter.

But I highly suspect the reason Trunks/Goten are being sidelined now is because they'll be major characters in the next arc, along with Uub and likely Pan. Maybe even Bra and Maron to if they decide to do anything with them.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:35 pm

I would love to see Android 17 become a more central part of the cast. But with how he prefers to work in isolation and how committed he is to his job, I can't see it happening. Especially with how much they heavily foreshadowed Oob a few episodes ago, I feel that after this arc, we're gonna get a time-skip to beyond EOZ.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:30 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Especially with how much they heavily foreshadowed Oob a few episodes ago, I feel that after this arc, we're gonna get a time-skip to beyond EOZ.

I've got my fingers crossed for this. :thumbup: All the pieces are in place for a Dragon Ball 2.0 arc (or will be post EoZ): Master Goku living on an island with his students Uub and Pan, Goten and Trunks to fill in for Yamcha and Bulma, and with the Tenshin-style Dojo being opened in a few episodes, there's set-up for some friendly rivals down the road. I think that would be great.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by TekTheNinja » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:42 pm

Can 17's kids be fighters after the timeskip? XD (You know, assuming there is a timeskip... THERE BETTER BE!)

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by Chuquita » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:59 pm

I'm so curious about 17's family. Only if we get to see the them too.
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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by MaxZ » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:09 pm

I hope so.

it'll be nice if the show can stick to being something other than the Goku and Vegeta show.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by YajirobiTheGreat » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:34 pm

precita wrote:In a way this tournament seems like a "last hurrah" for the entire older DBZ cast (aside from Yamcha for some reason), before they move on and everyone gets too old. Trunks and Goten will probably be used when they're older teenagers with Uub and Pan.
Does it? I haven't noticed that at all.

And given how it went the last time Toei tried making Goku/Pan/Uub/Trunks the main cast and that the current formula seems to be making money, I doubt radical change will be coming.

If they do make significant changes, I suspect it will be more akin to the changes in Ball that replaced Oolong, Puar, and Bulma by simply introducing a new character every few arcs, or like the changes in Z where the humans slipped into the background by being replaced with popular villains and their children. A more conservative approach over the course of hundreds of episodes where the old cast remains featured in the background and regularly gets lines.

Trying some kind of time skip where Pan, Uub, Goten and Trunks are the main characters sounds too much like GT.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by precita » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:00 pm

YajirobiTheGreat wrote:
precita wrote:In a way this tournament seems like a "last hurrah" for the entire older DBZ cast (aside from Yamcha for some reason), before they move on and everyone gets too old. Trunks and Goten will probably be used when they're older teenagers with Uub and Pan.
Does it? I haven't noticed that at all.

And given how it went the last time Toei tried making Goku/Pan/Uub/Trunks the main cast and that the current formula seems to be making money, I doubt radical change will be coming.

If they do make significant changes, I suspect it will be more akin to the changes in Ball that replaced Oolong, Puar, and Bulma by simply introducing a new character every few arcs, or like the changes in Z where the humans slipped into the background by being replaced with popular villains and their children. A more conservative approach over the course of hundreds of episodes where the old cast remains featured in the background and regularly gets lines.

Trying some kind of time skip where Pan, Uub, Goten and Trunks are the main characters sounds too much like GT.
Well this is assuming they'll skip to the end of DBZ, which pretty much set up Uub, Pan and Trunks/Goten as new major characters. I don't know if Super will do the same thing, but they might.

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Re: 17 As a Recurring Character

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:23 pm

YajirobiTheGreat wrote: Does it? I haven't noticed that at all.

And given how it went the last time Toei tried making Goku/Pan/Uub/Trunks the main cast.
To be fair, I don't think the problem there was the concept, it was the bungled execution. Goku was the spotlight stealing squad, Pan was a brat, Trunks really came off as a loser compared to his counterpart and Uub was...there, I guess? I think the safer way to handle it would be to just rotate characters in and out like they've always done. Not everyone is going to be important all the time, after all.

I hope some of 17's children follow in his footsteps as fighters. The Earth needs more strong heroes and warriors beyond Goku's little band of misfits and reformed miscreants.

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