Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Ajay]

Where do you guys get the staff list now that animators corner is not getting updated anymore?

By painfully translating the names listed in the credits at the end of the episode.

I've just started saving them in documents for reference until Kanzenshuu updates.

[Gashif Aldi]

Tomita? Is she/he that Shida lookalike?

[Ajay]

Tomita? Is she/he that Shida lookalike?

That's Yoshikazu Tomita.

This one's fairly low down the scale of animators. Has only worked on Super once before.

[Gashif Aldi]

Tomita? Is she/he that Shida lookalike?

That's Yoshikazu Tomita.

This one's fairly low down the scale of animators. Has only worked on Super once before.

Dang it, lol. It got my hopes up for a second.

[ArchedThunder]

Going back over the NEP, I'm digging the art.
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Also I said I saw Yashima's Goku back when I watched it in low quality, but I was wrong, it's Nashizawa.
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And here's his cheek shading
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Also could this be Ishikawa?
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Slightly surprised Nashizawa is showing up before Shimanuki. I'm guessing 90 or 91 will be Shimanuki and the other will be Yashima.

EDIT: I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but I feel like Itai went a little far with the noses in this episode, they were much too bulbous.
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[JazzMazz]

#88

Not a very good episode from any department really. Though I do think the actual content of the episode made it more than worth it.

Next week looks like the art is going to be considerably better.

[Lookerman]

This episode was kinda ugly, but there were a couple of cool Tsuji Piccolo corrections and an ok (Higashide?) fight.

That's Wanpack for you, they don't provide good work, just serviceable work. It's pretty obvious Toei's saving their better animators for the episodes to come, hence their lack of any true involvement this episode. Which meant Wanpack was able to do whatever.

[ArchedThunder]

I wanted to say something about Nashizawa's action in the NEP;
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The long shot of the clash looks nice and the animation for the single character shots is nice (very smooth), but I think it'd look a whole lot better if it didn't have the fists coming up into the screen and instead they went past the screen, thoughts?

[Sodhi]

Newtype got the writer for this episode wrong. It was actually Yositaka Toshio again and not Fukushima Yukinori.

[Sodhi]

I wanted to say something about Nashizawa's action in the NEP;
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The long shot of the clash looks nice and the animation for the single character shots is nice (very smooth), but I think it'd look a whole lot better if it didn't have the fists coming up into the screen and instead they went past the screen, thoughts?

I think you are right. That would definitely make it look better.

[JazzMazz]

I wanted to say something about Nashizawa's action in the NEP;
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The long shot of the clash looks nice and the animation for the single character shots is nice (very smooth), but I think it'd look a whole lot better if it didn't have the fists coming up into the screen and instead they went past the screen, thoughts?

I agree, it would have been much more effect to have the fists flashing past than awkwardly punching up to the screen and abruptly stopping, it makes it look like they are hitting nothing at all. I also would've liked to see the fists from Roshi and Goku flash past each in that type of clash. I believe Ken Otsuka did it really effectively in #39 even though it wasn't particularly noteable.

[ArchedThunder]

Newtype got the writer for this episode wrong. It was actually Yositaka Toshio again and not Fukushima Yukinori.

Huh, interesting. I'm guessing Fukushima will still have 89, and probably 90 as well.
89, 90 for Fukushima
91, 92 and 93 for King Ryu
94 and beyond (probably around 5 or so episodes) for Tomioka sounds about right to me.

I agree, it would have been much more effect to have the fists flashing past than awkwardly punching up to the screen and abruptly stopping, it makes it look like they are hitting nothing at all. I also would've liked to see the fists from Roshi and Goku flash past each in that type of clash. I believe Ken Otsuka did it really effectively in #39 even though it wasn't particularly noteable.

I think the idea is that Goku and Roshi's fists are clashing, so that's why you don't see the other person's fist going past them.

[JazzMazz]

I agree, it would have been much more effect to have the fists flashing past than awkwardly punching up to the screen and abruptly stopping, it makes it look like they are hitting nothing at all. I also would've liked to see the fists from Roshi and Goku flash past each in that type of clash. I believe Ken Otsuka did it really effectively in #39 even though it wasn't particularly noteable.

I think the idea is that Goku and Roshi's fists are clashing, so that's why you don't see the other person's fist going past them.

If thats the case, thats a stupid angle to convey it, since we can't see the fists clashing.

[ArchedThunder]

If thats the case, thats a stupid angle to convey it, since we can't see the fists clashing.

I totally agree, I'm just saying I think that's the reason you don't see the other character's fist.


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Trunks and Vegetto look pretty lifeless.

[dhaval_dongre]

An OK episode. It wasn't an action filled episode as I previously thought. I think Higashide did the 2nd half fight. It was OK, nothing special but it was very short, so that's a good thing. Itai's touch was light as well. Another heavily outsourced episode. NEP looks really nice though.

[dhaval_dongre]

Tomita? Is she/he that Shida lookalike?

She started working as a KA on Super. Prior to that she was a 2nd KA. She has done less than 10 shows so far I believe. Most probably still in the early stages of her career.

[Gashif Aldi]

If thats the case, thats a stupid angle to convey it, since we can't see the fists clashing.

I totally agree, I'm just saying I think that's the reason you don't see the other character's fist.


New Super rental DVD art.
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Trunks and Vegetto look pretty lifeless.

If thats the case, thats a stupid angle to convey it, since we can't see the fists clashing.

I totally agree, I'm just saying I think that's the reason you don't see the other character's fist.


New Super rental DVD art.
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Trunks and Vegetto look pretty lifeless.

You know? It's actually more than I expect from Yamammuro.

[ArchedThunder]

I don't mind Yamamuro phoning it in on the rental covers, as long as he continues to improve in other areas, like when he works on the show.

[JazzMazz]

I know this has been said before, but this show really needs more impact frames, espicially when it comes to transformations. In Z, impact frames were used quite a bit for transformations and though they didn't work that well all the time, I think they definitely look better than suddenly transforming like in this episode for example. That Cabba transformation looked awful and the Ultimate Gohan transformation was also pretty lackluster, I think adding a impact frame here and their would make them generally more interesting.

EDIT: That Veggeto espicially looks extremely phoned in.

[ArchedThunder]

I know this has been said before, but this show really needs more impact frames, espicially when it comes to transformations. In Z, impact frames were used quite a bit for transformations and though they didn't work that well all the time, I think they definitely look better than suddenly transforming like in this episode for example. That Cabba transformation looked awful and the Ultimate Gohan transformation was also pretty lackluster, I think adding a impact frame here and their would make them generally more interesting.

I was watching some Z clips yesterday and saw a some instant transformations with no impact frames. Z transformations are praised a lot, but usually they just happened in a snap unless it was a big moment.