Idea on how they could keep the series going forever?

[YajirobiTheGreat]

Ok, I was just thinking and came up with an idea on how they could potentially keep the series going with new opponents and characters indefinately. Certainly, there are plenty of ways to do it, but this one just came to me.

Say that after the current arc of Super is over, a few prominent characters in Universe Seven have a justified concern over just how little control they have over things, realizing they can be quickly deleted or destroyed. Dende and the Supreme Kai among the concerns group, they decide to create a hidden reserve for their universe to get fighters and their own Super Dragon Balls. Dende goes to the ROSAT with Shin and wishes for the reincarnation of Cell as a Dragon Clan Namekian and raise him in secret. They choose Cell for his massive potential and this enables a non warrior Namekian to have the natural strength of a SSj2 level character, who with training reaches God Level.

He creates his own Super Dragon Balls and at Dende and the Supreme Kai's behest, he wishes for thousands of planets. He colonizes some of them with Namekian Children of his own while Shin brings in some interesting copies lf life forms with high potential from around the 12 Universes to colonize other worlds, and the Super Dragon creates hundreds of intelligent species to colonize the rest.

Given that one year in the normal universe is 365 years inside the ROSAT, this enables rapid development and colonization of the ROSATs dimension. Consequently, things can change rapidly inside of it and in just a few weeks time on the outside, new God Tier opponents can come into existence organically. The ROSAT can also be used to show popular species that the Supreme Kai could be said to have brought in a few years ago on the outside, which would be potentially over a thousand years on the inside, enough time for armies of Saiyans, Majins, Nameks, Earthlings, Wolf people, Kaioshin, ect... to be created.

It could be the ultimate plot device where any quality or quantity of opponents of any race could be brought from, given the way time works inside and the conditions it was created under.


Thoughts?

[precita]

The anime shouldn't go on forever in the first place, this isn't Pokemon.

But Super could last a good 5-8 years or so I imagine. Hopefully not 10 years. They still have the 12 Universes of content to mine, plus 4 aren't participating in the current tournament.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Firstly, I don't want Dragon Ball to go on forever. At a certain point, it's best to put the book to rest, not to say I think that time is now.

However, if they did want to keep it going on as long as possible, and they absolutely do, there's nothing specific they need to do. Once we get past EoZ, there are no restrictions. They can do whatever, whenever, however they want for as long as they want to do it and nothing will keep them from doing so, barring fan interest.

[Hellspawn28]

The series needs a rest once every 10-15 years. We did had a nice rest after 1997 and I can see it happening again after Super ends.

[precita]

The series needs a rest once every 10-15 years. We did had a nice rest after 1997 and I can see it happening again after Super ends.

Considering Goku's VA will sadly pass away sometime in the next 10 years, or get too sick to voice act, it'll almost definitely get a break. I can't see them recasting a character as iconic as Goku who had the same voice for 30 years anytime soon.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The series needs a rest once every 10-15 years. We did had a nice rest after 1997 and I can see it happening again after Super ends.

Considering Goku's VA will sadly pass away sometime in the next 10 years, or get too sick to voice act, it'll almost definitely get a break. I can't see them recasting a character as iconic as Goku who had the same voice for 30 years anytime soon.

Yeah... if Nozawa or Toriyama die, or if something else unfortunate happens to vastly change the chemistry of the series, it would probably end for me there. I can only justify going so far for any single series.

[Cipher]

This was a big discussion in the Kanzenshuu Discord the other day, and we wound up laying out some ideas for how the series could get another three to fifteen storylines out before the end of its run:

To start, after the Universal Survival arc, we have the "Gotenks Pliers" arc:

-Taking a cue from GT, Piccolo produces a pair of giant pliers resembling the ones Old Kaioshin used to pull out Goku's tail. He uses them to try to further extract Gohan's bang.
-The arc kicks off with Gohan and Piccolo training together, so fans are hype!!
-Piccolo explains that the pliers are actually an ancient god tool, and the only way to stop Zeno if he goes on a rampage.
-Zeno, having cast off his fun, is coming to Earth for a visit!
-Goten and Trunks overhear Piccolo's explanation of the pliers and fuse into Gotenks to steal them. They don't know why, but they feel a need to pinch Zeno!
-Zeno is hanging around Capsule Corp., and the other characters have to stop Gotenks from squeezing Zeno at all costs! This leads to many intense, exciting battles!
-Gotenks is resolved to pinch Zeno with the pliers!
-Eventually Gotenks and Zeno fight. They display all sorts of feats. This is very exciting, as we've never seen Zeno fight before! He punches some rocks and they explode.
-Gotenks is about to overwhelm Zeno and squeeze him with the pliers, when Zeno and Future Zeno fuse to form Large Zeno.
-Large Zeno effortlessly overpowers Gotenks. In the process, the pliers are broken, revealing that Zeno's father, West Zenoshin, was long ago trapped inside.
-West Zenoshin reveals that Zeno is a girl.
-After thirty seconds or so, Large Zeno vanishes. West Zenoshin explains that her fusion was so powerful, it's taken Zeno back in time.
-Meanwhile, Vados feels something strange ...

Next, V-Jump reveals the "God-Banging" arc:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
-Catering to fan pressures, Toei introduces the "God-Banging Arc"! Toriyama hopes this thrilling, simple story will continue to excite the imaginations of viewers.
-Zeno has gone back in time to be reborn inside Vados. As Zeno's only friend, Goku must be the one to fertilize the egg.
-Goku must go through a ritual to become powerful enough to father Zeno, involving simultaneous intercourse with six gods.
-Zeno is fathered by Goku and is reborn as Zen-Ku, the ultimate god child with sweet tattoos.

V-Jump reveals the first Dragon Ball Super special, "King Bardock and the Time-Travelling Friendship Warrior Zeno"
-We learn that Bardock was Zeno's first friend, one million years in the past!
-Bardock was the one who insisted that Zeno create the other seventeen universes. At first, there was only U7.
-Due to Towa and Mira's interference, something goes wrong and Universe 7 becomes one of the worst universes!

What other exciting tales will Dragon Ball, a never-ending journey, go onto explore?

EDIT -- Well, uh, courtesy of Zephyr, we have a (truncated) transcript of how these brilliant plotlines all came to be: https://pastebin.com/rqRMj90a.

Read at your own peril.

[Zephyr]

I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball Online (and subsequently Heroes and XenoVerse) have already given us a way for the series to continue indefinitely, should such horrors indeed transpire.

[sintzu]

Pokemon has found a way to go on forever without changing a thing so DB will be able to as well but that'll depend on how much it's making. Going off the current numbers it's safe to say it won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

Toriyama on the other hand probably won't write forever so when he is done I'd like them to take a few years off to put something good together to make sure we don't end up with another rushed GT mess.

I can't see them recasting a character as iconic as Goku who had the same voice for 30 years anytime soon.

DB is too big to end with someone's death at this point so they probably already have a replacement in mind for her.

[ABED]

Did Pokémon really find a way to keep going on forever? It's a story that can go on infinitely by simply creating more Pokémon.

[precita]

Did Pokémon really find a way to keep going on forever? It's a story that can go on infinitely by simply creating more Pokémon.

The Pokemon anime has been airing for 20 years and over 950 episodes and 20 movies with Ash still as the main character after all this time. What does that tell you?

They simply use Ash as a vehicle to advertise whatever the current games are and give him new companions and pokemon from the current games, then they rinse/repeat when the next one begins. The pokemon anime began in 1997 which is the same year GT ended, and Pokemon never stopped in all that time.

[ABED]

It doesn't tell me anything. Pokémon isn't much of a story. The whole premise is to "catch them all." Since new species are created all the time, it can go on infinitely.

[emperior]

They could create a story set in Age 1000 like DB Online and start all over with new characters.
This way they could make it last as much as they want and there would also be mentions of Goku, Vegeta and the others and characters like Dende and Piccolo would still be there.

[DBZ Macky]

[spoiler]This was a big discussion in the Kanzenshuu Discord the other day, and we wound up laying out some ideas for how the series could get another three to fifteen storylines out before the end of its run:

To start, after the Universal Survival arc, we have the "Gotenks Pliers" arc:

-Taking a cue from GT, Piccolo produces a pair of giant pliers resembling the ones Old Kaioshin used to pull out Goku's tail. He uses them to try to further extract Gohan's bang.
-The arc kicks off with Gohan and Piccolo training together, so fans are hype!!
-Piccolo explains that the pliers are actually an ancient god tool, and the only way to stop Zeno if he goes on a rampage.
-Zeno, having cast off his fun, is coming to Earth for a visit!
-Goten and Trunks overhear Piccolo's explanation of the pliers and fuse into Gotenks to steal them. They don't know why, but they feel a need to pinch Zeno!
-Zeno is hanging around Capsule Corp., and the other characters have to stop Gotenks from squeezing Zeno at all costs! This leads to many intense, exciting battles!
-Gotenks is resolved to pinch Zeno with the pliers!
-Eventually Gotenks and Zeno fight. They display all sorts of feats. This is very exciting, as we've never seen Zeno fight before! He punches some rocks and they explode.
-Gotenks is about to overwhelm Zeno and squeeze him with the pliers, when Zeno and Future Zeno fuse to form Large Zeno.
-Large Zeno effortlessly overpowers Gotenks. In the process, the pliers are broken, revealing that Zeno's father, West Zenoshin, was long ago trapped inside.
-West Zenoshin reveals that Zeno is a girl.
-After thirty seconds or so, Large Zeno vanishes. West Zenoshin explains that her fusion was so powerful, it's taken Zeno back in time.
-Meanwhile, Vados feels something strange ...

Next, V-Jump reveals the "God-Banging" arc:

-Catering to fan pressures, Toei introduces the "God-Banging Arc"! Toriyama hopes this thrilling, simple story will continue to excite the imaginations of viewers.
-Zeno has gone back in time to be reborn inside Vados. As Zeno's only friend, Goku must be the one to fertilize the egg.
-Goku must go through a ritual to become powerful enough to father Zeno, involving simultaneous intercourse with six gods.
-Zeno is fathered by Goku and is reborn as Zen-Ku, the ultimate god child with sweet tattoos.

V-Jump reveals the first Dragon Ball Super special, "King Bardock and the Time-Travelling Friendship Warrior Zeno"
-We learn that Bardock was Zeno's first friend, one million years in the past!
-Bardock was the one who insisted that Zeno create the other seventeen universes. At first, there was only U7.
-Due to Towa and Mira's interference, something goes wrong and Universe 7 becomes one of the worst universes!

What other exciting tales will Dragon Ball, a never-ending journey, go onto explore?

EDIT -- Well, uh, courtesy of Zephyr, we have a (truncated) transcript of how these brilliant plotlines all came to be: https://pastebin.com/rqRMj90a.

Read at your own peril.[/spoiler]

How the fuck do you even come up with this shit. This is hilarious

[Captain Strawberry]

Even if Goku dies... the series will probably keep continuing. Goku in the afterlife show!

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Dragon Ball is going to continue indefinitely anyway. There may certainly be long breaks as we got after GT ended, but at some point whatever bad taste is left will subside and some studio exec will find a way to milk the series, give us new material which is at least tolerable and all will be fine and dandy.

That said if Nozawa dies I would like to see Goku get a rest and for the focus to be on spinoffs, especially with the 12 universes, it would be a waste to not see their full potential in terms of world building and characterization utilized.

[ekrolo2]

Do it Cipher's way or blow its brains out and let it die already.

[sintzu]

It doesn't tell me anything. Pokémon isn't much of a story. The whole premise is to "catch them all." Since new species are created all the time, it can go on infinitely.

Any story can go on forever if the people behind it want it to.

[ekrolo2]

It doesn't tell me anything. Pokémon isn't much of a story. The whole premise is to "catch them all." Since new species are created all the time, it can go on infinitely.

Any story can go on forever if the people behind it want it to.

That doesn't mean they should go on forever and the risk of running forever inevitably leads to problems like characters either going nowhere or being constantly regressed which is what frequently happens with comic books. Eddie Brock and Venom both respectively moved on to better places but Marvel's shat on that by bringing them back together, ignoring anything interesting done with them in the past few years for the sake of misplaced nostalgia.

[Gog]

They shouldn't keep this series going on forever. Eventually enough is enough, dragging something forever through the ground well past the end in a fit to gain more and more money is simply not the right thing to do.

But, if the series was to keep going on, forever, the merchandise sales just has to sell well, and be consistent for that to be a terrible reality.