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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:11 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:Is guess this a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I never liked Future Gohan. He's cool and all, but kinda boring. I did Clarke's performance however.
All he ever was was a mechanism by which Trunks could find his inner potential, he didn't really need a strong personality.
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Post by Doctor. » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:15 pm

SuperSalt wrote:How many arcs do you think we are going to get from Super? I hope for a lot. I almost couldn't contain myself when they announced a new DB series, and I hope that it'll go on for a loong time, so long as they don't screw it up. I'm hoping for at least 3-4 arcs after the Universe Survival arc.
As long as Toriyama is content being on-board and it makes money.

I'd say one or two more arcs after this one at best, it seems like they keep phasing Toriyama out and bringing in more and more people to help out with the creation of the arcs.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:10 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:All he ever was was a mechanism by which Trunks could find his inner potential, he didn't really need a strong personality.
Well, no Dragon Ball characters really need a strong personality - most of them just need one, even if it's weak. At least, that's how I've always seen it. Mr. Toriyama isn't known for his deep, complex plots, and the same applies to his characters. Dragon Ball's just fun and compelling, but never complex. That's probably also why I love modern DB so much!
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Post by jeffbr92 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:55 pm

It would be interesting to have a more complex and deep explanation about the usage of Ki in the series
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:21 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:It would be interesting to have a more complex and deep explanation about the usage of Ki in the series
We should have gotten that with Whis' training in the Resurrection F arc, but we didn't, and that's one of my biggest issues with Super. It's does nothing with the concept of God ki.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:27 pm

Anyone else still think Battle of Gods movie was Yamadera's best performance as Beerus?

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Post by kinisking » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:44 am

Guesswhoo wrote:I don't know if this is a good place to talk about this but do you guys think that if DBS flop, the overall Dragon ball anime sink with it ? Because I think this is why many people still stick with DBS.
What ? I can't imagine anyone sticking with the just for that reason.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:09 pm

Haha, Sean Schemmel's reaction to Nozawa performing Goku live is the most brilliant thing ever. :lol:

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Post by jeffbr92 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:28 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Haha, Sean Schemmel's reaction to Nozawa performing Goku live is the most brilliant thing ever. :lol:
Love that too! Nozawa voice tho, godly! I think she said something like "I will never forgive you". Could be that her favorite Goku line?
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:36 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Anyone else still think Battle of Gods movie was Yamadera's best performance as Beerus?
Yeah, I think so. Yamadera is amazing in everything he does. Great range too.

I just had this thought. Akio Otsuka as Bardock, anyone? Nozawa was great, but if they had chosen a male actor, I think Otsuka would have nailed it.
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Post by Bajosexto » Mon May 01, 2017 2:14 am

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that enjoys the Japanese version just as much as the Dub(LatAm dub). It's kinda funny. While fans argue on which version is superior, I'm relaxing enjoying both the sub and the dub. Does anyone else like both their dub and the Japanese version alike? I'm not talking about loving the Japanese version and kinda liking the dub or vice versa. I'm talking about enjoying both versions to the point where you can watch etheir one and (genuinely) enjoy them equally.

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Post by DBZ Macky » Mon May 01, 2017 2:23 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:It would be interesting to have a more complex and deep explanation about the usage of Ki in the series
We should have gotten that with Whis' training in the Resurrection F arc, but we didn't, and that's one of my biggest issues with Super. It's does nothing with the concept of God ki.
And that's one of my main issues with Super as a whole. They could add so much extra lore in the retellings yet they go on to make an inferior product than the movies themselves that also happens to be padded with food-gags and Pilaf gang shenanigans.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 01, 2017 8:12 am

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jeffbr92 wrote:It would be interesting to have a more complex and deep explanation about the usage of Ki in the series
We should have gotten that with Whis' training in the Resurrection F arc, but we didn't, and that's one of my biggest issues with Super. It's does nothing with the concept of God ki.
And that's one of my main issues with Super as a whole. They could add so much extra lore in the retellings yet they go on to make an inferior product than the movies themselves that also happens to be padded with food-gags and Pilaf gang shenanigans.
I don't mind the BOG retelling, because the movie itself provided so much lore and retelling just followed suit and even added more emphasis on Beerus' role as Hakaishin and how his actions had reshaped the spectrum of the Dragon Ball universe. The Resurrection F retelling is far more guilty of wasting potential. The best we get with about God ki is that it is somehow linked to the fact you have to train prevent Ki from leaking from your body.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon May 01, 2017 12:38 pm

Since Kaio-Ken is described as an ability that increases all the users attributives, could it possibly get mastered to a point where the user can increase a specific part of himself? Say, instead of increasing everything by ten times, could the user learn how to just increase his sight or hearing or sense of touch?
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon May 01, 2017 2:54 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Since Kaio-Ken is described as an ability that increases all the users attributives, could it possibly get mastered to a point where the user can increase a specific part of himself? Say, instead of increasing everything by ten times, could the user learn how to just increase his sight or hearing or sense of touch?
The story doesn't put any limitation to Kaio-Ken's potential (other than needing a well trained body) so, sure Why not?
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Post by Danfun64 » Tue May 02, 2017 11:02 pm

I recently said that I'd prefer a consistent inaccurate dub than a mix of various accurate but incomplete subs + dubs. I forgot how inaccurate the old DBZ dub can be at times...so the jury is still out on what opinion I have...
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Post by DBZ Macky » Wed May 03, 2017 6:21 am

Hey, Bulma here!
The premiere’s just 37 days away!
Today we’ve got…ohoho, now this is a surprise.
I’ve received a letter from Trunks…the one in the future!
I wonder how handsome he’s become!

Hoping this letter finds you well, mother.

I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…

But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.

No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.

Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.

I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.

My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks
So, how does this tie in with all the Goku Black stuff?
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed May 03, 2017 2:39 pm

I usually tend give no F about power levels but something about it caught my attention for a few moments.

The only "official" word we have about Gogeta's power level comes from V-Jump and lists him with a PL of 2,5 Billons (2,500,000,000) in Super Saiyan form. According to Daizenshuu 7, SS gives a x50 boost in power, this would put Gogeta's base PL at 50 millons (50,000,000), which is lower than 100% Freeza's 120,000,000 PL.

I always liked the idea of base Saiyans being below 100% Freeza, this currently being no longer being doesn't bother me too much though.
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Post by nickzambuto » Thu May 04, 2017 3:18 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:I usually tend give no F about power levels but something about it caught my attention for a few moments.

The only "official" word we have about Gogeta's power level comes from V-Jump and lists him with a PL of 2,5 Billons (2,500,000,000) in Super Saiyan form. According to Daizenshuu 7, SS gives a x50 boost in power, this would put Gogeta's base PL at 50 millons (50,000,000), which is lower than 100% Freeza's 120,000,000 PL.

I always liked the idea of base Saiyans being below 100% Freeza, this currently being no longer being doesn't bother me too much though.
I'm also okay with base saiyans being weaker than Freeza, but fusions are an exception. I feel like that Gogeta power is way too low. Ridiculously low even.

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Post by Gog » Thu May 04, 2017 4:30 am

Remembering how Hit could only stop time for about one tenth of a second, enabling him to get one decisive blow in on his target. I'm confused about this as Jackie Chun and Krillin were capable of running at each other, Jackie Chun aiming a kick, to which Krillin dodges under the blow,tries to hit him with a left jab, to which Jackie Chun spits on his fist, causing Krillin to reel back in disgust, then Krillin proceeds to snort boogers at Jackie Chun, making him stop his left jab, and reeling back in disgust.

Then the two of them stopped for a moment to think up a new strategy, all of this took about 0.2 seconds. They then exchange a few words, deciding to play a game of Roshambo, after Krillin lost he got mad, and Jackie Chun leaped in the air, and back kicked Krillin.

So, is Hit slow?

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