"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by OLKv3 » Wed May 03, 2017 1:35 pm

Think you guys might be taking this news the wrong way

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed May 03, 2017 1:38 pm

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namekiansaiyan wrote:What would be the point of revealing 10 members for the team and then months later replacing one. Why didn't Toriyama just make it 11 per team?
Remember how they revealed U7 team for the Champa Arc before Goku start recruiting the team? Monaca had hype but he turned out to be a joke, and Buu got shafted aside.

The whole trolling Buu seems like a recurring gag by Toriyama, so if anything, blame Toriyama for pulling his kind of move and not Toei. Toriyama cares more for gags than the story.
The amount of promtion and build up for this arc is way bigger than for the Champa arc though.

Buu and 17 are the only 2 characters where I can think of a reason for them not turning up to travel to the tournament.

Goku, Piccolo, Gohan, Tien and Roshi will all be together. Vegeta is with Beerus and Whis. Krillin and 18 will obviously turn up.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed May 03, 2017 1:40 pm

OLKv3 wrote:Think you guys might be taking this news the wrong way
Pls explain my man cause everyone already shitting themselves.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed May 03, 2017 1:43 pm

I'd be stunned if 17 doesn't show up; they gave him a two-parter and a magazine spread. I'm confident he's on this team.

There's no way to check into seeing if any of the voice actors and actresses are booked for any other important roles on other shows this summer, is there?
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed May 03, 2017 1:47 pm

Chuquita wrote:I'd be stunned if 17 doesn't show up; they gave him a two-parter and a magazine spread. I'm confident he's on this team.

There's no way to check into seeing if any of the voice actors and actresses are booked for any other important roles on other shows this summer, is there?
The bolded part here is definitely evidence for what pacz360 just said.
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OLKv3 wrote:Think you guys might be taking this news the wrong way
Pls explain my man cause everyone already shitting themselves.

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Post by precita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:03 pm

So I guess the running gag of Yamcha being made fun of for not being chosen to join the team.....may actually lead to him actually joining the team.

If Yamcha didn't appear again after the ep Bra was born I wouldn't think of it, but they just showed him again in the previous ep. He's also bound to appear at least one more time before the main group teleports to the tournament, so I'm very curious.

Do you guys think Yamcha will join as a spectator even if he doesn't fight, similar to Mr. Satan?

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Post by pacz360 » Wed May 03, 2017 2:05 pm

precita wrote:So I guess the running gag of Yamcha being made fun of for not being chosen to join the team.....may actually lead to him actually joining the team.

If Yamcha didn't appear again after the ep Bra was born I wouldn't think of it, but they just showed him again in the previous ep. He's also bound to appear at least one more time before the main group teleports to the tournament, so I'm very curious.

Do you guys think Yamcha will join as a spectator even if he doesn't fight, similar to Mr. Satan?
We have to see.

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Post by Kishido » Wed May 03, 2017 2:08 pm

With all the promo material and the recent teaser trailer no matter who would be changed... it would be bad and stupid

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Post by precita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:11 pm

Kishido wrote:With all the promo material and the recent teaser trailer no matter who would be changed... it would be bad and stupid
And as people keep bringing up, they hyped up Buu for the Champa tournament just to have him sleep.

I always found Roshi's participation to be suspicious. Is there a rule that characters have to fly in order to participate? Roshi is the only one of the main cast who can't fly. Maybe he will be disqualified for that reason?

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Post by Kishido » Wed May 03, 2017 2:15 pm

precita wrote:
Kishido wrote:With all the promo material and the recent teaser trailer no matter who would be changed... it would be bad and stupid
And as people keep bringing up, they hyped up Buu for the Champa tournament just to have him sleep.

I always found Roshi's participation to be suspicious. Is there a rule that characters have to fly in order to participate? Roshi is the only one of the main cast who can't fly. Maybe he will be disqualified for that reason?
And it was bad... Outright bad.

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Post by precita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:17 pm

With Trunks/Goten being excluded for this tournament they really have no other fighters to choose from. I don't think Jaco will be made a participant either, otherwise he likely would have been chosen by Toriyama from the start.

Maybe there's the off chance Supreme Kai finds some random powerful being somewhere in U7 we never seen before, but that would be a bit jarring.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed May 03, 2017 2:22 pm

precita wrote:
Kishido wrote:With all the promo material and the recent teaser trailer no matter who would be changed... it would be bad and stupid
And as people keep bringing up, they hyped up Buu for the Champa tournament just to have him sleep.

I always found Roshi's participation to be suspicious. Is there a rule that characters have to fly in order to participate? Roshi is the only one of the main cast who can't fly. Maybe he will be disqualified for that reason?
Comparing both arcs the hype here is far bigger than it was in u6.

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Post by Basako » Wed May 03, 2017 2:22 pm

I don't think it's gonna happen, but if they change Boo for Yamcha because he fell asleep, I'm gonna like it. I like Boo, but he already fought and I feel bad for Yamcha.

What I think is that one character is gonna be late, but he is gonna make it in the last moment, that will be episode 92. Boo or Vegeta.
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Post by precita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:23 pm

Another thing is some of the production changes. Buu might be "Fit" in the tournament even though all the promos/openings show him Fat. Then we have Caulifa who possibly got a design change from that shy girl design she had when she was first shown.

My guess is somewhere along the road a lot of things got changed in this tournament from what was originally planned.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:32 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I'd be stunned if 17 doesn't show up; they gave him a two-parter and a magazine spread. I'm confident he's on this team.

There's no way to check into seeing if any of the voice actors and actresses are booked for any other important roles on other shows this summer, is there?
The bolded part here is definitely evidence for what pacz360 just said.
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OLKv3 wrote:Think you guys might be taking this news the wrong way
Pls explain my man cause everyone already shitting themselves.
Is there a website that follows voice actors and actresses upcoming roles in anime? I know articles pop up eventually on ANN and Crunchyroll, but we're only 5 weeks into the spring season and those news articles aren't until we're a little over the halfway mark of the cour.
precita wrote:Another thing is some of the production changes. Buu might be "Fit" in the tournament even though all the promos/openings show him Fat. Then we have Caulifa who possibly got a design change from that shy girl design she had when she was first shown.

My guess is somewhere along the road a lot of things got changed in this tournament from what was originally planned.
I agree with this; I do think there were changes behind the scenes. Something about this arc feels off to me compared to the last one.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed May 03, 2017 2:34 pm

The arc dose give me the sense of poor communication between staff and abrupt changes along the way as well..
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Post by precita » Wed May 03, 2017 2:35 pm

Well think, when did Toriyama give the Toei writers the notes for this arc? Probably around the time the mid/later portions of the Zamasu arc were being animated, right? So between that we had 10 weeks of fillers to give the writers time to plan the arc. Then after the exhibition matches they made another 7+ episodes of the characters training just to give them more time to plan the actual tournament.

So in other words this arc was probably in the can and being written for around 6 months ahead of time, with probably some re-writes and changes along the way.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 03, 2017 2:41 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:The arc dose give me the sense of poor communication between staff and abrupt changes along the way as well..
If they were making abrupt changes the animation probably would have collapsed by now instead of this being the most consistent arc yet.
The only real thing people can point to is the hooded figure changing shape from the PV to the actual show, but the shape in the PV didn't match Jiren either so it was likely intentional misdirection. If they had changed it that late in production they would have had to throw everything they had of 82 out the window and had they done that that late in production the episode would have come out looking really poor. The episode relies heavily on Toppo himself, his personality and his fighting style, so they would have had to do heavy rewrites to the script and redo the storyboard, not just start over on animation.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed May 03, 2017 2:47 pm

Chuquita wrote: Is there a website that follows voice actors and actresses upcoming roles in anime? I know articles pop up eventually on ANN and Crunchyroll, but we're only 5 weeks into the spring season and those news articles aren't until we're a little over the halfway mark of the cour.
Besides Tanaka Mayumi (Krillin and Luffy's VA) I doubt any of them has a big role this coming summer, a lot of the seiyuu's being casted are the new ones and the popular ones.

EDIT: I wonder if theres a chance that Miyuki Sawashiro plays Cauli, she instantly popped out in OP playing Pudding, and Miyuki fits the tomboy wild type girl characters.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed May 03, 2017 2:48 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:The arc dose give me the sense of poor communication between staff and abrupt changes along the way as well..
If they were making abrupt changes the animation probably would have collapsed by now instead of this being the most consistent arc yet.
Not really, toppo being the hooded guy change, female broly might be cauliflowa who had different art in base sometime before which didn't make the op are some of them which makes me say this..
I can see your point though
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