"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed May 03, 2017 3:29 pm

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:Loving the dub too. The "Forgot My Tractor!" line is the first time DBS has made me laugh uncontrollably. I think Nozawa is a very good VA but I really hate her performance as Goku in Super. Sean is the man IMO
I actually really love Nozawa's Goku in DBS and always looked forward to any Goku scene and same here. Schemmel is doing some of his best work as Goku in this dub, I mean that monologue in #11 alone!! It's even little stuff too like you can genuinely hear his hurt as Goku in #15 when he tells Chichi he has to train. He's absolutely crushing it, Buu Kai, the movies and now Super I'm just constantly surprised at how good he keeps getting! Which is why I'm confident he'll nail Black, he has Sabat directing too aswell as Nozawa's performance.
I like her in general and she's always done an awesome job. Beck as Black she absolutely knocked it out of the park.

I just think in Super, and this is partly due to writing of course, Sean just makes Goku sound a bit "smarter" even when he's being goofy and dumb.

Hate was a strong word. I'd say just dislike a few deliveries.
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Post by Bajosexto » Wed May 03, 2017 6:15 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:Couldn't agree more. Sean has got better and better over the years, and I personally feel he is now the best dub Goku going in any language.

Ian Sinclair and Jason Douglas are also the best Whis and Beerus in any language I've heard up to now. Both are just sublime, Sinclair's portrayal is pure genius - he nails each side of Whis's character with ease.
Douglas also has a certain panache with his delivery that just hits every spot.
Can we really say who is the best though? I think we would have to be fluent in a lot of languages and would have to watch a lot episodes(not just a couple of clips) in order to really judge the Goku VA's around the world. We may prefer a certain dubbed Goku. But just because we prefer that version doesn't mean it is the best one out there. You problably have good reasons as why you think Sean's Goku is the best. But it's not fair to judge a dub by watching only a couple of clips on YouTube(in a language you don't understand).

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed May 03, 2017 6:31 pm

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DBZ_Lee wrote:Couldn't agree more. Sean has got better and better over the years, and I personally feel he is now the best dub Goku going in any language.

Ian Sinclair and Jason Douglas are also the best Whis and Beerus in any language I've heard up to now. Both are just sublime, Sinclair's portrayal is pure genius - he nails each side of Whis's character with ease.
Douglas also has a certain panache with his delivery that just hits every spot.
Can we really say who is the best though? I think we would have to be fluent in a lot of languages and would have to watch a lot episodes(not just a couple of clips) in order to really judge the Goku VA's around the world. We may prefer a certain dubbed Goku. But just because we prefer that version doesn't mean it is the best one out there. You problably have good reasons as why you think Sean's Goku is the best. But it's not fair to judge a dub by watching only a couple of clips on YouTube(in a language you don't understand).
I see what you're saying, but it is simply my opinion, and not fact, for reasons you've stated yourself.
I think Sean's journey over the past 15 or so years has seen him easily become one of the best Goku's out there.

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Post by Bajosexto » Wed May 03, 2017 7:16 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:
Bajosexto wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:Couldn't agree more. Sean has got better and better over the years, and I personally feel he is now the best dub Goku going in any language.

Ian Sinclair and Jason Douglas are also the best Whis and Beerus in any language I've heard up to now. Both are just sublime, Sinclair's portrayal is pure genius - he nails each side of Whis's character with ease.
Douglas also has a certain panache with his delivery that just hits every spot.
Can we really say who is the best though? I think we would have to be fluent in a lot of languages and would have to watch a lot episodes(not just a couple of clips) in order to really judge the Goku VA's around the world. We may prefer a certain dubbed Goku. But just because we prefer that version doesn't mean it is the best one out there. You problably have good reasons as why you think Sean's Goku is the best. But it's not fair to judge a dub by watching only a couple of clips on YouTube(in a language you don't understand).
I see what you're saying, but it is simply my opinion, and not fact, for reasons you've stated yourself.
I think Sean's journey over the past 15 or so years has seen him easily become one of the best Goku's out there.
I agree. Sean is a good Goku. I can't really say how good he is because I've never watched any of the FUNi dubs of DB(besides some clips). From the few clips I've seen from Kai, he does a good job as Goku. Nosawa, Sean, Mario Castañeda are all really good at voicing Goku. Who's the best? It depends on who you ask.

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Post by SaintEvolution » Thu May 04, 2017 12:34 pm

How many episodes have FUNimation and OkraTron 5000 dubbed until now?

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Post by jeffbr92 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:02 pm

I don't mind Kid/Teen Gohan voice change, but did they had to also change Kid/GT Goku voice or the VA just left the company?
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu May 04, 2017 1:21 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:How many episodes have FUNimation and OkraTron 5000 dubbed until now?
Funny you should ask I was actually doing some investigative work on this yesterday! Anyway Rawly Pickens (The second Voice Directer for DBS also the ADR Engineer etc) tweeted a picture back in March showing him mixing the Freeza arc (near the end as there was a glimpse of Golden Freeza) this lines up with Ayres tweeting he was recording Freeza in Feb so I think we can assume that the Freeza arc was finished by the end of Feb it is only 9 eps after all. Now this is where things get a bit weird/hard to pin point, Rawly tweeted in Jan a joke relating to him directing Chapin (who plays Cabba), now initially I thought this was for the XV2 DLC didn't think much of it but then checked the dates and the DLC with Cabba came out a few weeks before that Jan tweet so Chapin had to be dubbing for DBS then which then means they are basically dubbing whenever people are available unless Ayres just happened to not be free and so he recorded Freeza late, or Ayres could have just gone in Feb to record some clean up work and now able to tweet cuz no embargo, after all dubbing for the series took place in July so it wouldn't be too surprising that they would start dubbing the U6 in Jan.
Now the Marsters thing, he tweeted out at the end of Dec that we was working with Sabat on something and hoped to make up for DBE, we now know he was doing Zamasu, but for what DBS proper or XV2? Would they really know about Xenoverse 2 DLC 4 months in advance?
Sabat recently said Schemmel's Black voice is still in works and he can't talk more about it, so if they did start U6 in Jan then them being at the Black arc or near it makes sense.

TL;DR there is too much and too little information at the same time to pin point exactly how much work they have done, but someone asked Schemmel directly a few weeks back and he said "a lot", so guess that is your answer :P

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Post by SaintEvolution » Thu May 04, 2017 1:37 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
TL;DR there is too much and too little information at the same time to pin point exactly how much work they have done, but someone asked Schemmel directly a few weeks back and he said "a lot", so guess that is your answer :P
Well, "a lot" can be a lot of things litterally.

But, how about 80 episodes? It's the same number of brazilian portuguese and latin american spanish dubs are going to record too.
jeffbr92 wrote:I don't mind Kid/Teen Gohan voice change, but did they had to also change Kid/GT Goku voice or the VA just left the company?
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Stephanie Nadolny (original english voice of Kid Goku and Kid Gohan in the FUNimation dub) doesn't work on voice acting anymore. So they had to change her.

Also, for your status I can see that you are brazilian. Are you excited for your native dub or not? There is already a topic for the brazilian dub, actually.

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Post by jeffbr92 » Thu May 04, 2017 1:50 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:There is already a topic for the brazilian dub, actually.
Really?? I didn't saw that, thanks man!
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Post by SaintEvolution » Thu May 04, 2017 1:55 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:There is already a topic for the brazilian dub, actually.
Really?? I didn't saw that, thanks man!
Yeah. Here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=38192

Also, another actress that was changed in a similar situation in the Funimation dub was Laura Bailey as Kid Trunks and Kid Vegeta. For Trunks they casted Alexis Tipton and for Kid Vegeta Justin Brinner.
But not like as Nadolny, Bailey still acts for what I know.

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Thu May 04, 2017 2:38 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
TL;DR there is too much and too little information at the same time to pin point exactly how much work they have done, but someone asked Schemmel directly a few weeks back and he said "a lot", so guess that is your answer :P
Well, "a lot" can be a lot of things litterally.

But, how about 80 episodes? It's the same number of brazilian portuguese and latin american spanish dubs are going to record too.
jeffbr92 wrote:I don't mind Kid/Teen Gohan voice change, but did they had to also change Kid/GT Goku voice or the VA just left the company?
Stephanie Nadolny (original english voice of Kid Goku and Kid Gohan in the FUNimation dub) doesn't work on voice acting anymore. So they had to change her.

Also, for your status I can see that you are brazilian. Are you excited for your native dub or not? There is already a topic for the brazilian dub, actually.[/quote]


That's not true, she plays KO, in Lakewood Plaza Turbo which was recently greenlit into a full series OK KO Lets be Heroes.

And She sounds terrific there. I REALLY didnt like her as Kid Goku.

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Post by Scsigs » Thu May 04, 2017 2:45 pm

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GodKaio-Ken wrote:Loving the dub too. The "Forgot My Tractor!" line is the first time DBS has made me laugh uncontrollably. I think Nozawa is a very good VA but I really hate her performance as Goku in Super. Sean is the man IMO
I actually hated that addition, it totally defeated the original joke.
Was the "original joke" that Goku was letting himself get punched by Mr. Satan? Because I saw the sub version of the scene when looking up the dubbed version on YouTube & there wasn't much there in terms of jokes that wasn't there in the dub, if you could call that humor when Chichi saw Goku, yelled at him, & he had to leave so he had Satan punch him. The dub just added a line that ADDED to the humor of the scene.
All I'm thinking here is, thank god for Sean Schemmel. It kept intact with not only the scene, but Goku's character.
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Post by SaintEvolution » Thu May 04, 2017 2:46 pm

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Well, "a lot" can be a lot of things litterally.

But, how about 80 episodes? It's the same number of brazilian portuguese and latin american spanish dubs are going to record too.
jeffbr92 wrote:I don't mind Kid/Teen Gohan voice change, but did they had to also change Kid/GT Goku voice or the VA just left the company?

That's not true, she plays KO, in Lakewood Plaza Turbo which was recently greenlit into a full series OK KO Lets be Heroes.

And She sounds terrific there. I REALLY didnt like her as Kid Goku.
I wasn't know about it. But she ended her professional relations with Funimation right?

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Post by Scsigs » Thu May 04, 2017 2:49 pm

SaintEvolution wrote:How many episodes have FUNimation and OkraTron 5000 dubbed until now?
Probably through the 3rd arc at least, so they're pretty close to dubbing Future Trunks.
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Post by SaintEvolution » Thu May 04, 2017 2:57 pm

Scsigs wrote:
SaintEvolution wrote:How many episodes have FUNimation and OkraTron 5000 dubbed until now?
Probably through the 3rd arc at least, so they're pretty close to dubbing Future Trunks.
So are probably 52 episodes.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu May 04, 2017 3:02 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:Loving the dub too. The "Forgot My Tractor!" line is the first time DBS has made me laugh uncontrollably. I think Nozawa is a very good VA but I really hate her performance as Goku in Super. Sean is the man IMO
I actually hated that addition, it totally defeated the original joke.
Was the "original joke" that Goku was letting himself get punched by Mr. Satan? Because I saw the sub version of the scene when looking up the dubbed version on YouTube & there wasn't much there in terms of jokes that wasn't there in the dub, if you could call that humor when Chichi saw Goku, yelled at him, & he had to leave so he had Satan punch him. The dub just added a line that ADDED to the humor of the scene.
All I'm thinking here is, thank god for Sean Schemmel. It kept intact with not only the scene, but Goku's character.
It didn't change anything, it just defeated it. By that I mean "made it immensely less funny". The original was more visually funny than anything else, the mere act of Goku being knocked away in such exaggerated fashion only to pick up his tractor along the way. The dub didn't trust the audience to get it, so they took a cynical page straight out of the Z-era playbook.

It's not just a problem with this scene either. While the Super dub is good on the whole, they have a tendency to make unnecessary, if minor changes far more often than they need to. Almost as if the scriptwriters are trying to emulate the old dubs in a small way.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Thu May 04, 2017 3:15 pm

Piccolo's so mature line after goku took the tractor is a very stupid addition..
It's such an unnecessary TFS style addition, it completely ruined whatever the scene wanted to depict
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Post by Scsigs » Thu May 04, 2017 3:17 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It didn't change anything, it just defeated it. By that I mean "made it immensely less funny". The original was more visually funny than anything else, the mere act of Goku being knocked away in such exaggerated fashion only to pick up his tractor along the way. The dub didn't trust the audience to get it, so they took a cynical page straight out of the Z-era playbook.
And left in an improvised line that wasn't there in the original language...in a slice-of-life in-between-arcs episode that was meant to be funny anyways...huh? The visual humor's still there, so it's not like it's diminished at all. Sabat didn't even expect to keep it, but they did. In an otherwise flawless dub, I think we can allow a bit of different dialogue here & there. For a lot of us, it just added to the comedy of the scene. There was already the visual humor, but now there's auditory humor to go along with it.
I understand if people don't like TFS' version of the Cell Games Reenactment from Kai, since a lot of those jokes hinged on the viewer knowing about the original Z dub's cringy humor & script changes, plus a few memes, plus viewers knowing about & loving DBZA, but the scene from Super was actually funny on his own. The dub just added a good element to it. On top of that, a LOT of Japanese humor is VERY in-your-face in these shows, which kind of diminishes the impact for me. When it has an improvisational feel, & actually fits, that helps towards my humor sensibilities. I'm betting I'm not alone in this either.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu May 04, 2017 3:17 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:Piccolo's so mature line after goku took the tractor is the reason I have up on the dub completely..
It's such an unnecessary TFS style addition, it completely ruined the joke
That's a pretty small reason to drop a dub, but whatever floats your boat. I actually didn't mind that line, even if it was out of character.
Scsigs wrote:And left in an improvised line that wasn't there in the original language...in a slice-of-life in-between-arcs episode that was meant to be funny anyways...huh? The visual humor's still there, so it's not like it's diminished at all.
That's totally besides the point. Firstly: Yes, it is diminished, but I don't hate the dub for this or anything, it's just annoying. Ever heard the phrase "Less is more"? It applies wonderfully here, you don't need Schemmel to explain the joke while it's happening, and I know you wouldn't be defending this if it were an instance in the Z dub.
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Post by Ki Breaker » Thu May 04, 2017 3:21 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Snip.
That's not the only reason, the dub makes goku look even more stupid than the Japanese one and the piccolo line was the last straw..
Anyways, I knew this line would cause controversy, I edited it, now if you will edit your post as well, it would save me a lot of notifications :lol:
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