"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

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Roshi, being the noble and wise sage that he is, helping another with their back pain. What a guy!

[pacz360]

Nah probably fake goku has no reason to go to freeza given the shit he's done.

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

The dude blew up the planet where beerus and whis were still on.

[Basako]

As an add in to Kale/Caulifa I guess the possibility of them being twins or something is an option but seems like that would have been mentioned already.

Well, that's a good theory.

We have the hair, eyes and body which look like the same person. We have the clothes, make up and personality which look like they could be two different. Being twins would explain everything. At this moment, that's the outcome I'd like to hear about all this. Caulifla and Kale the saiyan female twins.

[emperior]

Nah probably fake goku has no reason to go to freeza given the shit he's done.

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

Why would they even recruit someone like Freezer if they haven't told everyone about their universe's fate in case of loss?
And even in case they resurrect Freezer, would they kill him immediately after the tournament in case they win? Why would Freezer even want to collaborate in a situation like this? He could just kill Goku when he least expects it and get his revenge.

If they really have to bring someone back for the tournament they should resurrect Cell. If 17 and Freezer had so much potential, then Cell has even more and a few hours in the RoSaT would make him incredibly strong. Plus Cell is someone who likes fighting and testing himself like Goku, and could actually be redeemed and become a rival to Goku and would train his ass off to try and surpass Beerus too.

[SansrivaaL]

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

The dude blew up the planet where beerus and whis were still on.

Doesnt mean he wouldnt be afraid of him if Beerus threatens him up front, he was freaking out in Gold form and considering he was about to die he just wanted to take Vegeta and Goku with him. it was a last ditch effort.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Nah probably fake goku has no reason to go to freeza given the shit he's done.

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

Freeza doesn't like Hell so that work's even more in his favour! If Freeza does join somehow it will be the worst written thing in the franchise there is no way it can work without Freeza being completely and utterly OoC.

[pacz360]

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

Why would they even recruit someone like Freezer if they haven't told everyone about their universe's fate in case of loss?
And even in case they resurrect Freezer, would they kill him immediately after the tournament in case they win? Why would Freezer even want to collaborate in a situation like this? He could just kill Goku when he least expects it and get his revenge.

Exactly freeza more of a risk to take especially where goku,gohan,vegeta,krillin,piccolo,Roshi, and tien hate him.

[Super Saiyan God]

So is Frieza finally being good guy?

[SansrivaaL]

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

Why would they even recruit someone like Freezer if they haven't told everyone about their universe's fate in case of loss?
And even in case they resurrect Freezer, would they kill him immediately after the tournament in case they win? Why would Freezer even want to collaborate in a situation like this? He could just kill Goku when he least expects it and get his revenge.

If they really have to bring someone back for the tournament they should resurrect Cell. If 17 and Freezer had so much potential, then Cell has even more and a few hours in the RoSaT would make him incredibly strong. Plus Cell is someone who likes fighting and testing himself like Goku, and could actually be redeemed and become a rival to Goku and would train his ass off to try and surpass Beerus too.

Because from a fan perspective isnt Freeza more popular than Cell? Toei can BS their way into making it work, they've BS their way into making the others look strong and can compete with SSJB, I dont see how changing Freeza's personality for the time being as a problem for them. Freeza doesnt need to care about the fate of the universe, there are other ways, like have Beerus scare the crap out of him or have Goku trick him into joining like how he handled 18, promise him he can make a wish, that would be more than enough for Freeza.

I'm just giving out ideas on what can happen, its not like I'm saying it WILL happen, just that if Toei/AT wanted to, they can.

[Kanassa]

Found some images.

[Psykomatik]

Guys... calm down... just a rumor... I didn't thought you'll be all like crazy... Please wait for confirmation...

[SansrivaaL]

Plus the fact Freeza is ya know dead. Would he even have time to gather the Dragon Balls, summon Shenron and wish Freeza back and then convince him to join? Freeza would probably kill himself than join forces. There is no way this is legit, I refuse to believe it would destroy everything about Freeza.

That didnt stop enma for giving Vegeta some free time just so he can help kill Boo, Toei may BS their way into making Freeza work for them VIA Beerus threatening him that "If you dont join, you wont just die, I will personally erase your existence" as you know, Freeza was quite afraid of Beerus at the time.
Tho yeah I feel like those are fake as well, they're emphasizing too much on teamwork now, Freeza is the last person you would want to join when it comes to that, not to mention his weakness in stamina when going gold form.

Freeza doesn't like Hell so that work's even more in his favour! If Freeza does join somehow it will be the worst written thing in the franchise there is no way it can work without Freeza being completely and utterly OoC.

Plus Goku can trick him "hey freeza, if you join, you can get a wish from super shenron... like you know... getting revived again for the 3rd fucking time and create "Resurrection of another Resurrection of Freeza" lets all hope those are fake, I do not want Freeza to pop in.

[pacz360]

Guys... calm down... just a rumor... I didn't thought you'll be all like crazy... Please wait for confirmation...

That's all you need to say bruh

[Lord Frieza]

Idk, this character has the LSSJ green tint hair but we don't even know who that's supposed to be. If anything it tells us the character designs weren't final for the female Saiyan(s),

Well for me I have to ask "Why dose every one assume things are being changed behind the scenes?"

The sole change to ever happen in this arc was covering up the cloaked Jiren model. Thats really what has spawned all this "changes" talk. People automatically assumed this was an error on Toei's part and was changed. Did none stop and think it might have been an intentional error to build expectation for Jiren but also allow Toppo to have a surprise reveal. They have had months to prepare characters for this arc and I highly doubt they are actually going to go through random character design changes this late in the game especially when they have already produced the official art work for them to build the hype. No other shown characters have undergone any radical changes so why would Caulifla?

Her hair is pretty much exactly the same. Why would they make two different saiyan females look so similar. The name "Kale" if pronounced how you might if it were written in Japanese might even sound similar. I'd need someone else to confirm that. All I'm saying is having two female characters who have similar hairstyles and possibly similar sounding names is a bit large of a coincidence. Even the locks of hair are placed similarly.

Its called a red herring - a clue or piece of information which is or is intended to be misleading or distracting.

Caulifla exists to create speculation among the fan base, to get us talking. If she was the LSS then the magazine artical of her announcement would have had a big arrow pointing to the fact or words to that effect. Instead they show the images side by side with no information to connect them. Caulifla is there to make questions were none are, a red herring or simply put "Toei is f##king with us".

You say Caulifla and Kale sound alike in Japanese, I'm shore they must do and its a pretty cleaver idea because it makes the red herring sound even more believable.

[Lord Frieza]

If Goku dose go to see Frieza I know what response he'll get....

[Super Saiyan God]

just asking... is frieza not bad guy anymore?

[SansrivaaL]

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Roshi, being the noble and wise sage that he is, helping another with their back pain. What a guy!

She obviously has hemorrhoids, Roshi's just giving her a hand ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Found some images.

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Yurin is... adorable. Roshi's flying! or did Tien just kick him all the way up there?

just asking... is frieza not bad guy anymore?

He is and will always be a bad guy.

If Goku dose go to see Frieza I know what response he'll get....

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Blasphemy! Freeza would never call or even refer to Goku as "Bro"

[Super Saiyan God]

Ah i see by your point, Frost is also bad guy too but he joined universal 6 tournament that is how it works. I dont think there is any difference in frieza's case

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Guys... calm down... just a rumor... I didn't thought you'll be all like crazy... Please wait for confirmation...

Haha, you can't drop that potential bombshell and not expect us to go a bit crazy!

Hopefully we get some scans soon want this nip in the bud.

[emperior]

To be honest I would like it if Freezer joined, but that seems highly unprobable and would create lots of problems.
By the way it's Toriyama who is making the teams, and it seems like lately he's very fond of Freezer.