"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TheMathemagician]

The only good that'll come of Freeza's (insert number here) resurrection is that it'll give Vegeta a 3rd chance at finishing him off.

Either that or a third time Freeza gets to kill him.

[DBZ Macky]

And Cell can't come back because he is a nightmare to animate from what I hear. With all those spots I can see why.

It wouldn't be much of a problem if they just hand him a new form, perhaps "Golden Cell", and the new form doesn't have any spots.

[DHM211]

It'd be redundant to bring him a 4th time.

4th?

What's the question? If he came back, it would be his fourth time excluding GT and the movies.

My bad I misread it. I thought it said Freeza was already brought back 4 times.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't see why people would be so opposed with Freeza coming back as long as he's not going to be a villian. They'res so many different ways to write him as an ally. Why get mad at seeing him like 4 times, when we've seen Vegeta and piccolo much more times ?

It would be hard to write Freeeza as an ally in my opinion. There would be so much animosity and tension between Vegeta and Freeza that there would certainly be a confrontation. Vegeta would never allow Freeza to be on the team.

Keep in mind Freeza destroyed his home planet, killed his father, forced Vegeta to work for him for many years, and brutally beat him & killed him back on Namek just to name a few. You don't just forget that and let the guy become your ally. Other Z fighters wouldn't like it too, Krillin would have nightmares and everyone else would be weary.

Vegeta forgiving Freeza would be great character development for the both of them. Vegetas had a lot of his terrible shit be forgiven, so he'd be a hypocrite if he never forgave Freeza.

Yes but Vegeta eventually got the point of making it up by attempting to take Buu out by blowing himself up, then helping with the Kid Buu fight and throwing his pride away with Beerus in order to save everybody. Forgiving Freeza out the blue based on absolutely nothing would not be great.

[pacz360]

I don't see why people would be so opposed with Freeza coming back as long as he's not going to be a villian. They'res so many different ways to write him as an ally. Why get mad at seeing him like 4 times, when we've seen Vegeta and piccolo much more times ?

It would be hard to write Freeeza as an ally in my opinion. There would be so much animosity and tension between Vegeta and Freeza that there would certainly be a confrontation. Vegeta would never allow Freeza to be on the team.

Keep in mind Freeza destroyed his home planet, killed his father, forced Vegeta to work for him for many years, and brutally beat him & killed him back on Namek just to name a few. You don't just forget that and let the guy become your ally. Other Z fighters wouldn't like it too, Krillin would have nightmares and everyone else would be weary.

Vegeta forgiving Freeza would be great character development for the both of them. Vegetas had a lot of his terrible shit be forgiven, so he'd be a hypocrite if he never forgave Freeza.

Yeah forgive who blew up your home planet,killing nearly all of your species, force you to work for him for years beat the shit outta to the point you were crying and killing you not to mention after coming back to life came to earth and blow up the planet in attempt to kill you and your love ones.
The fuck are you on this isn't naruto.

[pacz360]

It would be hard to write Freeeza as an ally in my opinion. There would be so much animosity and tension between Vegeta and Freeza that there would certainly be a confrontation. Vegeta would never allow Freeza to be on the team.

Keep in mind Freeza destroyed his home planet, killed his father, forced Vegeta to work for him for many years, and brutally beat him & killed him back on Namek just to name a few. You don't just forget that and let the guy become your ally. Other Z fighters wouldn't like it too, Krillin would have nightmares and everyone else would be weary.

Vegeta forgiving Freeza would be great character development for the both of them. Vegetas had a lot of his terrible shit be forgiven, so he'd be a hypocrite if he never forgave Freeza.

Yes but Vegeta eventually got the point of making it up by attempting to take Buu out by blowing himself up, then helping with the Kid Buu fight and throwing his pride away with Beerus in order to save everybody. Forgiving Freeza out the blue based on absolutely nothing would not be great.

Plus vegeta shot a blast at cell that distracted cell which help gohan in beating him.

[Boo Machine]

And Cell can't come back because he is a nightmare to animate from what I hear. With all those spots I can see why.

It wouldn't be much of a problem if they just hand him a new form, perhaps "Golden Cell", and the new form doesn't have any spots.

Maybe, but would people really be happy with a new form that just removes his spots or gives him a golden tint like Freeza? If Cell ever comes back in any form I'd want it to be Cell- X from the Dragonball online game. Make him a big ugly monster.

[namekiansaiyan]

I don't see why people would be so opposed with Freeza coming back as long as he's not going to be a villian. They'res so many different ways to write him as an ally. Why get mad at seeing him like 4 times, when we've seen Vegeta and piccolo much more times ?

Frieza would be coming out of nowhere unlike Piccolo and Vegeta. It is also the reason why I don't really 17 in the team as he did not do anything before and so I feel as if 17 stole Yamcha's place. If Frieza came in now he would be stealing a place.

17 didn't steal anyone's place,Yamcha was never useful in the first place as a fighter so why not bring a liked character who is strong AF and actually has a close relation to 2 members of the team ? not to mention 17 and Goku got along quite well and became good friends,17 is a great addition and i've never seen anyone who thought he isn't.
Also Piccolo and the rest haven't "done anything" in a long time too they're in the same boat as 17 so you comment made no sense.

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

[sintzu]

Either that or a third time Freeza gets to kill him.

Can't I dream in peace ?

[Lapislettuce]

Frieza would be coming out of nowhere unlike Piccolo and Vegeta. It is also the reason why I don't really 17 in the team as he did not do anything before and so I feel as if 17 stole Yamcha's place. If Frieza came in now he would be stealing a place.

17 didn't steal anyone's place,Yamcha was never useful in the first place as a fighter so why not bring a liked character who is strong AF and actually has a close relation to 2 members of the team ? not to mention 17 and Goku got along quite well and became good friends,17 is a great addition and i've never seen anyone who thought he isn't.
Also Piccolo and the rest haven't "done anything" in a long time too they're in the same boat as 17 so you comment made no sense.

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

I have only read positive feedback when the scan with 17 showed up for the first time and Piccolo didn't become a "big character" all of a sudden he was given a chance just like 17 is having a chance now ! and tell me what has Piccolo done since his fight with 17 ? baby sitting doesn't count.

[The gr]

Either that or a third time Freeza gets to kill him.

Can't I dream in peace ?

what happen if vegeta surpass Goku or made u7 win would that make you happy

If Freeza can dish out this much reaction then I am glad they revealed FemBroly early on, imagine not getting anything from her and some leaks pops out claiming that theres a female version of Broly... in canon... the riot it would cause... people would go "No Broly will never be canon" "Keep dreaming Broly fanboy" and the "Why are people discussing it? we should all be mature about this and ignore that until its proven legit"
Serious question, are we not supposed to talk about theories/50-50 leaks in this thread? if so then it would be better to create a thread for it, not really fun reading other people's opinions and thoughts on the matter and then you suddenly run into "stop discussing this" or "this fanbase"

So true,the comments like "this fanbases" are just as whiny as the people complaining, someone made a thread discussing about frieza,it got locked and the admin put a link to this thread, like I said the world work like This,no one would stop discussing until a reliable person debunked this,at the meantime where just speculating,so i don't see the complaint about this fandom and this leak just made my day honestly

[pacz360]

Frieza would be coming out of nowhere unlike Piccolo and Vegeta. It is also the reason why I don't really 17 in the team as he did not do anything before and so I feel as if 17 stole Yamcha's place. If Frieza came in now he would be stealing a place.

17 didn't steal anyone's place,Yamcha was never useful in the first place as a fighter so why not bring a liked character who is strong AF and actually has a close relation to 2 members of the team ? not to mention 17 and Goku got along quite well and became good friends,17 is a great addition and i've never seen anyone who thought he isn't.
Also Piccolo and the rest haven't "done anything" in a long time too they're in the same boat as 17 so you comment made no sense.

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

Lol at 17 being the least liked characters. Just because you don't like the guy doesn't mean he the least liked character other wise no one would bother wondering what happen to or hope for his return.
Don't let bias be spoken as it fact.

[namekiansaiyan]

17 didn't steal anyone's place,Yamcha was never useful in the first place as a fighter so why not bring a liked character who is strong AF and actually has a close relation to 2 members of the team ? not to mention 17 and Goku got along quite well and became good friends,17 is a great addition and i've never seen anyone who thought he isn't.
Also Piccolo and the rest haven't "done anything" in a long time too they're in the same boat as 17 so you comment made no sense.

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

I have only read positive feedback when the scan with 17 showed up for the first time and Piccolo didn't become a "big character" all of a sudden he was given a chance just like 17 is having a chance now ! and tell me what has Piccolo done since his fight with 17 ? baby sitting doesn't count.

Piccolo had build up but 17 has gone from nothing to being involved in probably the biggest arc in Dragon ball. He should have been introduced and I would have accepted it more.

[sintzu]

what happen if vegeta surpass Goku or made u7 win would that make you happy ?

It will but nothing can beat him sending Freeza back to hell.

[Lapislettuce]

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

I have only read positive feedback when the scan with 17 showed up for the first time and Piccolo didn't become a "big character" all of a sudden he was given a chance just like 17 is having a chance now ! and tell me what has Piccolo done since his fight with 17 ? baby sitting doesn't count.

Piccolo had build up but 17 has gone from nothing to being involved in probably the biggest arc in Dragon ball. He should have been introduced and I would have accepted it more.

17 already has his build up now so what exacly is your point ? the guy is well liked if he wasn't he wouldn't be back right now and wouldn't be a part of the team he's literally the only character who doesn't hang that much with the main cast yet they always bring him back that actually means something,also stop stating your opinions as a fact 17 is far from being the "the least liked" maybe to you but not to the majority i know you want Yamcha on the team but people were bashing Krillin,Roshi and even Tien when they were shown on the poster so i don't even want to imagine what they would have said about Yamcha.

[namekiansaiyan]

17 didn't steal anyone's place,Yamcha was never useful in the first place as a fighter so why not bring a liked character who is strong AF and actually has a close relation to 2 members of the team ? not to mention 17 and Goku got along quite well and became good friends,17 is a great addition and i've never seen anyone who thought he isn't.
Also Piccolo and the rest haven't "done anything" in a long time too they're in the same boat as 17 so you comment made no sense.

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

Lol at 17 being the least liked characters. Just because you don't like the guy doesn't mean he the least liked character other wise no one would bother wondering what happen to or hope for his return.
Don't let bias be spoken as it fact.

Rank the 10 fighters on how much they are liked in the fanbase and 17 would be near the bottom end.

[Ki Breaker]

If Freeza can dish out this much reaction then I am glad they revealed FemBroly early on, imagine not getting anything from her and some leaks pops out claiming that theres a female version of Broly... in canon... the riot it would cause... people would go "No Broly will never be canon" "Keep dreaming Broly fanboy" and the "Why are people discussing it? we should all be mature about this and ignore that until its proven legit"
Serious question, are we not supposed to talk about theories/50-50 leaks in this thread? if so then it would be better to create a thread for it, not really fun reading other people's opinions and thoughts on the matter and then you suddenly run into "stop discussing this" or "this fanbase"

So true,the comments like "this fanbases" are just as whiny as the people complaining, someone made a thread discussing about frieza,it got locked and the admin put a link to this thread, like I said the world work like This,no one would stop discussing until a reliable person debunked this,at the meantime where just speculating,so i don't see the complaint about this fandom and this leak just made my day honestly

It seems like they just try to show pseudo maturity.. saying stuff like "this fanbase" when they are a part of it just makes it sound silly..
If a leak appears even if it's false, there is a new possibility opened up as a plot change, discussing whether we like this possibility or not is nothing wrong..

This "leak" was very fun to discuss as well, freeza coming back sounds like a pretty awesome idea

[Lapislettuce]

Do not compare Piccolo to 17 as Piccolo is one of the biggest characters in the whole franchise whereas 17 is not. 17 is also one of the least liked chatacters in the 10 and could actually be the least liked character.

Yamcha has history with the team unlike 17 who has done nothing with the cast and has just lived on an island.

Lol at 17 being the least liked characters. Just because you don't like the guy doesn't mean he the least liked character other wise no one would bother wondering what happen to or hope for his return.
Don't let bias be spoken as it fact.

Rank the 10 fighters on how much they are liked in the fanbase and 17 would be near the bottom end.

AGAIN this is YOUR OPINION ! god stop stating your opinions as facts it's quite toxic we get it you don't like 17 that doesn't mean other people don't.

[FortuneSSJ]

-Freeza coming back rumor-

Freeza is one the strongest fighters of Universe 7 so bringing him to the team makes sense, and it's something they should already had done in Champa arc, my problem is that I'm just tired of him at this point.

[Ki Breaker]

-Freeza coming back rumor-

Freeza is one the strongest fighters of Universe 7 so bringing him to the team makes sense, and it's something they should already had done in Champa arc, my problem is that I'm just tired of him at this point.

You never know, he might redeem himself if he comes back..