You know with all that scheme of bringing back a villain to be on U7 team in the ToP, they could bring back Goku Black in U10 Team, what do ya think? lol
Cipher wrote:I don't know; I guess we just part ways here. I think this makes perfect sense after the events or Resurrection "F". Though, again, I figured Beerus would be the one to insist they bring their third strongest fighter, moral implications be damned.
Everyone's also acting like Goku and Freeza are going to be shaking hands like Batman and Superman going off to fight crime. It's likely to be a huge source of tension heading into the arc.
Also, talk about a quadruple whammy for his teammates, who have to learn upon arrival that:
1) They're fighting for their lives, rather than for fun
2) The prize money is a lie
3) Goku is either directly responsible for the situation, or at least the target of other teams due to his flippant actions
4) They have to fight alongside Freeza
Far points man, but still sucks IMO
I think it would be better this in Champa arc and if Freeza was not killed, the whole point of reviving him again or ask to Yemma for he to comeback as Vegeta did in the Boo arc is kinda of a turn off for me.
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Power levels are not just big numbers:
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Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
ArchedThunder wrote:I mean I'm not happy about this either, but I can see how at the very least plenty of great character interactions could come out of this.
I won't deny that the interactions will be interesting if Freeza really wants to cooperate and for real (or maybe he will betray them later, but act as if he is by their side), but even then its bad that they replaced Buu, a good fighter with a lot of possibilities, for Freeza, pure evil and reused villian by now. Why not replace Kame Sennin instead of Buu? He's has already been put down before, why again?
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Sleeping until the tournament is over.
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Araki wrote:
These days people start throwing the words "filler" and "silce of life" everytime characters aren't punching each other. No matter if something is moving the plot or there's character exposition.
Imagine if DB started these days. It would go like this:
"hey, what's happening in Dragon Ball today?"
"Goku wants Mutenroshi to train him, so he's bringing him some chicks now."
"oh i see, just slice of life filler then. skippable. "
pacz360 wrote:This fucking shit is disgusting not even gt were this bankrupt in ideas.
Let's bring back a dude who had a movie,a shitty retailing and multiple non canon appearance over a guy like buu who could give more creative fights.
Shit like this proves as long Fuckers eat your shit up and don't bother to say no to this idea you can do whatever the fuck you want even if it sucks ass.
We get it already. You're not happy about it. Do you really have to have a 100 posts about the same thing?
pacz360 wrote:This fucking shit is disgusting not even gt were this bankrupt in ideas.
Let's bring back a dude who had a movie,a shitty retailing and multiple non canon appearance over a guy like buu who could give more creative fights.
Shit like this proves as long Fuckers eat your shit up and don't bother to say no to this idea you can do whatever the fuck you want even if it sucks ass.
We get it already. You're not happy about it. Do you really have to have a 100 posts about the same thing?
Well no ones telling you to respond doc.
I'll keep doing it as long as I feel like it .
IGhostUlt wrote:Tons of self entitled fans complaining on here once again lol.
Self entitled, eh? Please elaborate. -_-
You're not included because it seems you're a yamcha fan so I get why you're mad. Buu and yamcha fans have every right to complain, but besides that I find it annoying for people to get mad about something that hasn't been executed yet
TheSaiyanGod wrote:I think Freeza will not get any stronger.
The situation was so urgent, that he needed to call a villain like him, precisely because there was no more time left.
So he should be on the same level as he was in his Saga, and that's one reason he did not think they called him Cell. He would not have time to get stronger despite having potential.
Do you think he will train? The Golden Freeza form is going to be a problem.
I believed the primary reason for no sell it Cell isn't that popular in Japan. He's the least popular of all the Z villains. That and he's a pain in the ass to animate. So if you can chose from a more popular villain who is easier to animated and has a huge power gain recently, Freeza wins on all counts. It also makes me wonder if my theory about Black coming back given the NEP with Gowasu and his God of Destruction. I doubt it would be Zamasu himself since he is a Kai and gods don't appear to be invited.
In either case, I am not keen on Freeza coming back, but it's worth it from reading the reactions on this forum. This makes the Frost vs. Piccolo fight fallout looks like salt sprinkles. This is probably the biggest troll of all Toriyama, my hats off to you, you evil jerk. lol
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
I know a lot of people are furious about this and I can see why, but shouldn't we wait and see how this all pans out before we make the decision to drop Super altogether?
pacz360 wrote:This fucking shit is disgusting not even gt were this bankrupt in ideas.
Let's bring back a dude who had a movie,a shitty retailing and multiple non canon appearance over a guy like buu who could give more creative fights.
Shit like this proves as long Fuckers eat your shit up and don't bother to say no to this idea you can do whatever the fuck you want even if it sucks ass.
We get it already. You're not happy about it. Do you really have to have a 100 posts about the same thing?
Well no ones telling you to respond doc.
I'll keep doing it as long as I feel like it .
If it makes you feel any better good for you then. Just try not to be as repetitive
Doctor. wrote:But if this Freeza decision is here to stay, they really did a poor job marketing.
Ideally, they should have only showed off the 9 fighters, then left the tenth as a secret. They should have had these episodes built-up so we the audience could try to figure out who the tenth fighter actually was: Goten, Trunks, Boo, Future Trunks, Yajirobe, Yamcha? Nope! Freeza.
A perfect troll doesn't work if the audience expects it.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:I know a lot of people are furious about this and I can see why, but shouldn't we wait and see how this all pans out before we make the decision to drop Super altogether?
Cause by all means tell me screwing buu over who's has more going for him in terms of abilities for a guy who just there to provide needless drama on the team.
Time to batten down the hatches, because there's a shitstorm brewing.
I'll wait and see how this plays out. I was against the idea of Frieza returning from an in-universe perspective because he's such an evil bastard, but it looks like they're at least going to have the characters respond appropriately.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:I know a lot of people are furious about this and I can see why, but shouldn't we wait and see how this all pans out before we make the decision to drop Super altogether?
batistabus wrote:If Toriyama could read these responses, I'm certain he would be absolutely overjoyed.
True, and that's something I never really liked about Toriyama in general. He should write whatever he wants to and all, but why do something to purposefully upset your fanbase? It just seems counter-intuitive.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:I know a lot of people are furious about this and I can see why, but shouldn't we wait and see how this all pans out before we make the decision to drop Super altogether?
Cause by all means tell me screwing buu over who's has more going for him in terms of abilities for a guy who just there to provide needless drama on the team.
I kinda like the idea of Freeza being on the team. Brings some tension if he'll fuck over the Universe 7 fighters or not. But yeah, I am bummed out that Buu isn't fighting anymore, but I guess I'm not too mad since we saw him fight earlier on in the arc.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:I know a lot of people are furious about this and I can see why, but shouldn't we wait and see how this all pans out before we make the decision to drop Super altogether?
I mean I legitimately can't think of a single way that this would work well since they're replacing a character who needs more spotlight with a villain who's gotten way to much focus recently. It's just an unsalvageable concept. I'm open to ideas though. Got any?
