What's everyone's thoughts on *SPOILER* ​coming back?

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Post by II Sora II » Mon May 08, 2017 2:05 pm

So here's what I'm thinking:

- Vegeta will immediately have his back up over this and will attempt to kill Freeza, Goku will be indifferent (Krillin, Gohan and Piccolo will be especially mortified)
- Beerus chews out the whole team and forces them to work together, otherwise he'll destroy them himself
- Freeza uses the opportunity to belittle everyone
- Frost vs Freeza happens, and Freeza will utterly eat Frost alive
- Goku and Freeza keep trying to out do one another; the showoffs they both are
- Freeza and Piccolo have a moment where Piccolo warns Freeza that if he gets out of line, he'll handle the situation once and for all
- Freeza plays a major role in keeping the team alive, with a promise from Beerus that he will be allowed to live once more at the edge of the universe, as long as he agrees to do nothing too terrible (as it's what's gotten the team selected to compete in the first place), otherwise Beerus will personally find and execute him
- Krillin learns to accept Freeza being part of the team, but will probably watching his back at all times
- Vegeta will play role of senpai after he asks Cabba to take Freeza down (yes, Vegeta will want Freeza gone ASAP even if it means betraying his team to prevent Freeza from betraying them)
- Freeza will get caught up in trying to eliminate U6's Saiyans that he probably won't be expecting Kale's Berserker form

The idea of Goku and Freeza (specifically) teaming together(!), is SO exciting. Just the character interactions possible from this scenario have potential to be incredible. This is like Future Trunks meeting Krillin's wife and Marron, or meeting Kid Trunks. It's fanservice as **** and probably stupid, but such hype!

Feel bad for Buu fans.

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Post by greeZH » Mon May 08, 2017 2:09 pm

Freeza - Frost body swap. Calling it now.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 08, 2017 2:15 pm

Episode 93 will be very chaotic with all them arguing.

I expect Piccolo and Roshi to be on Goku's side and the rest not.

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Post by precita » Mon May 08, 2017 2:16 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:Episode 93 will be very chaotic with all them arguing.

I expect Piccolo and Roshi to be on Goku's side and the rest not.
LOL, there's no way Piccolo will support Freeza coming back. He saw his horror first hand twice.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 08, 2017 2:23 pm

precita wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Episode 93 will be very chaotic with all them arguing.

I expect Piccolo and Roshi to be on Goku's side and the rest not.
LOL, there's no way Piccolo will support Freeza coming back. He saw his horror first hand twice.
What is Frieza going to do with Beerus around though so Piccolo is not going to care for 24 hours.

I expect him to be surprised like everyone but after Goku explains he and Roshi will be ok.

Beerus will probably force eveyone to accept Frieza.

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Post by Boo Machine » Mon May 08, 2017 2:34 pm

pacz360 wrote:Is it wrong that I hope that this whole freeza is toei trolling the shut outta of us.
It's not wrong. In fact I'm in the same boat. Kinda. I'm not hating on the freeza idea but I haven't read anything yet that indicates this isn't just a gag episode to waste more time. With as much build up they are trying to give all the characters participating in this, it just seems so odd to have another character, regardless if it's freeza or not, just come out of nowhere and swipe a spot. We just have to wait for more spoilers or the episode itself.
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 08, 2017 2:38 pm

Boo Machine wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Is it wrong that I hope that this whole freeza is toei trolling the shut outta of us.
It's not wrong. In fact I'm in the same boat. Kinda. I'm not hating on the freeza idea but I haven't read anything yet that indicates this isn't just a gag episode to waste more time. With as much build up they are trying to give all the characters participating in this, it just seems so odd to have another character, regardless if it's freeza or not, just come out of nowhere and swipe a spot. We just have to wait for more spoilers or the episode itself.
In the end we get Yamcha.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon May 08, 2017 2:39 pm

I'm perfectly fine with him returning, hoping they make an interesting story with him.
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Post by Boo Machine » Mon May 08, 2017 2:40 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Boo Machine wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Is it wrong that I hope that this whole freeza is toei trolling the shut outta of us.
It's not wrong. In fact I'm in the same boat. Kinda. I'm not hating on the freeza idea but I haven't read anything yet that indicates this isn't just a gag episode to waste more time. With as much build up they are trying to give all the characters participating in this, it just seems so odd to have another character, regardless if it's freeza or not, just come out of nowhere and swipe a spot. We just have to wait for more spoilers or the episode itself.
In the end we get Yamcha.
I'd be ok with Yamcha taking buus spot. I'm not exactly the biggest Yamcha fan but all the jokes makes me feel like the guy needs a break.
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Post by Analytical Delusion » Mon May 08, 2017 2:41 pm

Delighted with the addition of Freeza (makes the RoF arc look like less of an albatross). I think it'll add more tension (and will force a reveal of the prize money ruse that Goku has been spewing), and could be a boon for character development. And of course, Freeza is another heavyweight in terms of strength.

I just wish Buu wasn't the team member written out. In terms of suspension of disbelief required to see fighters competing, eliminating Roshi->Krillin/Tenshinhan->18 (in order from most sensible to least, but still reasonable) would be much easier to swallow. Buu participating would have given Universe 7 seven legitimate monsters.

Happy it's not Yamcha or Goten plus Trunks (though Kid Trunks on his own would be fine to me; unlike Goten he has some depth to his character, and has some development last arc).

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Post by thegamer23 » Mon May 08, 2017 2:46 pm

We all thought that the "Black Goku" concept was garbage once it was announced.

But it proved to be the best thing so far in Super.

So i'm looking forward to this. The dynamics with the Z team should be gold(en), & i'm curious in whathever they're going to keep Frieza around even after the tournament or it's just a one shot.

He's potentially the strongest warrior of the universe after all.

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Post by DragonBallFoodie » Mon May 08, 2017 2:52 pm

I'm not too put out by it. A lot of DB villains have ended up as allies over the years: Tien, Piccolo, Buu, the Androids.

Besides, Frieza is coming back due to desperate measures for desparate times.


I would like to see Frieza and Frost meet though. Them fighting or squabbling or alternately teaming up would be interesting.
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Post by precita » Mon May 08, 2017 4:17 pm

I'm not sure why Freeza meeting Frost is seen like it's going to be an interesting thing. Maybe if Frost really was a good guy in this universe and he opposed Freeza's evil deeds, but he's practically the same character.

Freeza probably won't interact with him much differently than he did with Cell in Hell or whatever.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon May 08, 2017 4:21 pm

precita wrote:I'm not sure why Freeza meeting Frost is seen like it's going to be an interesting thing. Maybe if Frost really was a good guy in this universe and he opposed Freeza's evil deeds, but he's practically the same character.

Freeza probably won't interact with him much differently than he did with Cell in Hell or whatever.
I'm sort of hoping he sees Frost as a sort of B Grade Copy of himself and points that out rather than them being allies or indifferent.
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Post by The gr » Mon May 08, 2017 4:32 pm

You know despite being a big middle finger,I'm kinda excited to frieza battling toppo or someone like him, and maybe he will finally give us answer about how strong is Frost in comparison to his final form, and is only 24 hour so is nothing wrong imo, execution is the key and not the idea and I want to see golden frieza in Manga format oh and it will finally the garbage movie/saga revelant to the plot,I'm referring to ressurection of f
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Post by omaro34 » Mon May 08, 2017 4:39 pm

precita wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Episode 93 will be very chaotic with all them arguing.

I expect Piccolo and Roshi to be on Goku's side and the rest not.
LOL, there's no way Piccolo will support Freeza coming back. He saw his horror first hand twice.
Not to mention freeza killed Piccolo in the ROF arc.
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Post by Wizard Sesame » Mon May 08, 2017 4:47 pm

Hate it. To the point where I think it's the final nail in the coffin in regards to my opinion on GT being better than Super.


With that being said, I'm guessing it's a filler episode and he won't actually be coming back.

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Post by Bullza » Mon May 08, 2017 4:49 pm

Just heard about this.

I'm interested but I'd rather it not have happened. At least not with Buu being screwed over again. It should have been Roshi or Tien.

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Post by dbzfan619 » Mon May 08, 2017 5:08 pm

First post. I've kept up with the show for quite some time since the BOG arc and occasionally lurk around.

I can say that I'm glad they threw a curve ball with Frieza's return. Before the plot was too linear and a little bland with Goku going against stronger rivals like Jiren, just as a scapegoat for him to reach Beerus' level, but adding Frieza definitely makes the plot a lot more interesting. There's a great big roster of God-tier participants with Goku, Vegeta, Hit, Jiren and now Frieza. It will be amazing to see how the later interacts with the U6 saiyans + Frost and maybe team with guys like Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, as well as Goku and Vegeta

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 08, 2017 5:19 pm

dbzfan619 wrote:First post. I've kept up with the show for quite some time since the BOG arc and occasionally lurk around.

I can say that I'm glad they threw a curve ball with Frieza's return. Before the plot was too linear and a little bland with Goku going against stronger rivals like Jiren, just as a scapegoat for him to reach Beerus' level, but adding Frieza definitely makes the plot a lot more interesting. There's a great big roster of God-tier participants with Goku, Vegeta, Hit, Jiren and now Frieza. It will be amazing to see how the later interacts with the U6 saiyans + Frost and maybe team with guys like Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, as well as Goku and Vegeta
Frieza will get to beat up 3 monkeys so he will be happy.

What is God tier? I don't understand why it exists. The gap between all the cast is smaller than ever because of all the power ups everyone has got and bow the show has got more skilled based which is good for the franchise.

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