What's everyone's thoughts on *SPOILER* ​coming back?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 08, 2017 5:21 pm

LightBing wrote:Late to the party. Really surprised the rumour turned out to be true. I don't know what to expect, there's potential for great things. We have to wait and see.
This running joke of Boo falling asleep perplexes me. Honestly it has Mr.Toriyama written all over it. Just for the "screw you" it is to the fan-base, it already has value.
There is no doubt in my mind that Majin Boo sleeping through another major arc was an intentional rib to the fanbase from Toriyama. He loves doing trollish shit like that. Toriyama makes sure he satisfies himself before anyone else.

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Post by MagmonKai » Mon May 08, 2017 5:26 pm

What do you think the reason for this bait and switch was? And who's idea you think it was Toei or Toriyama? Maybe Toyotaro will not have Freeza, I mean there has to be a deviation maybe this is it?

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon May 08, 2017 5:28 pm

MagmonKai wrote:What do you think the reason for this bait and switch was? And who's idea you think it was Toei or Toriyama? Maybe Toyotaro will not have Freeza, I mean there has to be a deviation maybe this is it?
This is definitely Toriyama. Toei and Toyotaro would not change a character.
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon May 08, 2017 5:29 pm

MagmonKai wrote:What do you think the reason for this bait and switch was? And who's idea you think it was Toei or Toriyama? Maybe Toyotaro will not have Freeza, I mean there has to be a deviation maybe this is it?
Toyotaro was the one who said not to be surprised if tge final lineups arent the same as advertised.

Doubt he deviates.
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Post by precita » Mon May 08, 2017 5:42 pm

What is the Japanese fans reaction? Has anyone seen what they're saying?

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon May 08, 2017 5:53 pm

Ugh. Just ugh, ugh, ugh. Kinda wish I hadn't come across this spoiler elsewhere just to see how loudly I screamed when encountering it in its episode. I mean, seriously? It's a bad running joke stacked on top of a bad running joke. Boo's asleep AGAIN! Freeza (or some variation of Freeza) is coming back AGAAAAAAAAAIN! Freeza and his clones have been shoved down my throat so many times over the course of the franchise that I'm really beginning to hate him. Let's see. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced brother. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced brother times ten billion robots! We had Freeza escape from hell. We had Freeza escape from hell again. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced ancestor. We had Freeza escape from hell AGAIN! We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced alternate universe counterpart. And now... Freeza escapes from hell AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN! That's. Eight. Times. He's. Come. Back! And I'm not even going to count Minus where he's legitimately present in that time period.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon May 08, 2017 5:56 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Ugh. Just ugh, ugh, ugh. Kinda wish I hadn't come across this spoiler elsewhere just to see how loudly I screamed when encountering it in its episode. I mean, seriously? It's a bad running joke stacked on top of a bad running joke. Boo's asleep AGAIN! Freeza (or some variation of Freeza) is coming back AGAAAAAAAAAIN! Freeza and his clones have been shoved down my throat so many times over the course of the franchise that I'm really beginning to hate him. Let's see. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced brother. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced brother times ten billion robots! We had Freeza escape from hell. We had Freeza escape from hell again. We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced ancestor. We had Freeza escape from hell AGAIN! We had Freeza's nearly-identical and same-voiced alternate universe counterpart. And now... Freeza escapes from hell AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN! That's. Eight. Times. He's. Come. Back! And I'm not even going to count Minus where he's legitimately present in that time period.

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Post by Overlord78 » Mon May 08, 2017 6:11 pm

MagmonKai wrote:What do you think the reason for this bait and switch was? And who's idea you think it was Toei or Toriyama? Maybe Toyotaro will not have Freeza, I mean there has to be a deviation maybe this is it?
I have no doubt in my mind that its a Toriyama idea.

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Post by LightBing » Mon May 08, 2017 6:15 pm

I just hope Goku knows what the fuck he's doing and we don't see an insistence in what was character regression seen in FnF.

If I hear Goku say "Freeza's not that bad, he might redeem himself". I will get mad and I'm not the type of person to get mad.

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Post by The gr » Mon May 08, 2017 6:25 pm

Now Bardock will return​ in super since he is the most popular character in Japan
LightBing wrote:I just hope Goku knows what the fuck he's doing and we don't see an insistence in what was character regression seen in FnF.

If I hear Goku say "Freeza's not that bad, he might redeem himself". I will get mad and I'm not the type of person to get mad.
this is how i feel,if goku Said that frieza is not bad, I'll be just as angry as bringing the bastard for the 3rd time
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 08, 2017 6:31 pm

LightBing wrote:If I hear Goku say "Freeza's not that bad, he might redeem himself". I will get mad and I'm not the type of person to get mad.
I pray to God that doesn't happen. Because if it does, I'll fucking lose it.

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Post by Guntank » Mon May 08, 2017 6:32 pm

My thoughts are
Cool, It can lead to the whole who really destroyed Planet Vegeta plot point that the series has been hinting for a while now.
Sucks about buu though

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Post by Freeza9000 » Mon May 08, 2017 6:35 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
LightBing wrote:If I hear Goku say "Freeza's not that bad, he might redeem himself". I will get mad and I'm not the type of person to get mad.
I pray to God that doesn't happen. Because if it does, I'll fucking lose it.
I'll burst into hysterical and uncontrollable laughter if that happens.

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Post by The gr » Mon May 08, 2017 6:39 pm

Freeza9000 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
LightBing wrote:If I hear Goku say "Freeza's not that bad, he might redeem himself". I will get mad and I'm not the type of person to get mad.
I pray to God that doesn't happen. Because if it does, I'll fucking lose it.
I'll burst into hysterical and uncontrollable laughter if that happens.
If That happens,then is official,DBS was a mistake :lol: if that happens, toriyama is not writing with a straight face rather with a trollish face,I can't help to feel he's laughing in my rooftop
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 08, 2017 6:41 pm

"Freeza" and "redeem" should never, ever, ever be spoken in the same sentence. The best alignment that Freeza's character should evolve into, if he is going to remain a permanent character, is an anti-villain role. I pray to God they don't pull a "Vegeta" and just sweep all of his evil deeds and villainy under the rug in an attempt to develop his personality. That would be the worst fucking option to take.

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Post by The Monkey King » Mon May 08, 2017 6:42 pm

Tbh Freeza joining the team is what I wanted and makes some sense, the dude is the monstrous power house.

On the other hand why the fuck to we have to lose Buu?

I was just warming up to him, after his fight and losing weight Buu was becoming the new hype, but now they push him aside again!?

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Post by LightBing » Mon May 08, 2017 6:52 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:"Freeza" and "redeem" should never, ever, ever be spoken in the same sentence. The best alignment that Freeza's character should evolve into, if he is going to remain a permanent character, is an anti-villain role. I pray to God they don't pull a "Vegeta" and just sweep all of his evil deeds and villainy under the rug in an attempt to develop his personality. That would be the worst fucking option to take.
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Post by TheRed259 » Mon May 08, 2017 6:54 pm

precita wrote:So either they have to kill him again or he escapes and comes back for a later arc.
If they kill him, then he won't exist anymore, not even in Hell. Which means no more comebacks for Freeza.

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Post by Dpc292 » Mon May 08, 2017 7:09 pm

I really hope that they use the super dragon balls to bring him back to life so that he can become a good guy and become friends with everybody and become a z warrior and fight evil with the good guys! :) :D what? It's not that far fetched.

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Post by Dpc292 » Mon May 08, 2017 7:09 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:"Freeza" and "redeem" should never, ever, ever be spoken in the same sentence. The best alignment that Freeza's character should evolve into, if he is going to remain a permanent character, is an anti-villain role. I pray to God they don't pull a "Vegeta" and just sweep all of his evil deeds and villainy under the rug in an attempt to develop his personality. That would be the worst fucking option to take.
...but what about orochimaru?

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