ZombieVito wrote:
So was Zamasu off guard when Trunks grabbed his attack and the former clearly struggled in episode 57?
Was Zamasu off guard when Trunks twisted his arm and began to kick his ass? Zamasu even attacked and Trunks dodge him no problem...
Was Zamasu off guard when he fails to break free when Trunks holds him from behind and begins to self-destruct? What about earlier when Trunks blocks his ki sword attacks?
According to you Zamasu is god level. He shouldn't struggle with Trunks at all.
Goku is weaker than Vegeta after he trained in the RoSaT. The reason Goku overpowered Zamasu was because he amplified his attack way more than Trunks and Vegeta. Goku's arms should make that obvious.
I suggest to watch the Vegetto fight again. Zamasu beating him to the ground wasn't because of power.
Given his expression, he was since he didn't think he had much energy after he sent Black flying and he was conference that he could handle Trunks.
The same as the above. And since you mention Trunks holding Zamasu, how about Zamasu holing both Trunks and Goku so Black could fry them with his Kamehameha.
Black was conference that Zamasu could kill Trunks even with Super Saiyan Rage. And again, Trunks kicked Rose Black into a building after parrying a blow meant for Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku.
Goku fried half of Merged Zamasu's face. Vegeta and Trunks together didn't even burn his skin. So how much stronger do you Vegeta was compared to Goku? And Trunks and Vegeta was a team attack that they put everything into as well to the point that Vegeta was shocked that it did no damaged to Merged Zamasu. Even with Goku's arms he still had more than enough power to attack and even used the Kaioken while Vegeta and Trunks were drain to the point that Vegeta had to defend Trunks.
Yes it was. They got into a struggle with fist and Merged Zamasu knocked him on his butt. And again, if Zamasu was so weak that he was no match for Super Saiyan 2 Trunks, Vegetto shouldn't have struggled at all. Like the Super manga, it should have been a stomp, pure and simple.
Bullza wrote:HeroR wrote:The producter's word was that Black in the anime was the strongest after Beerus. Unless you find someone higher than him that goes against his word, that is a fact.
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As for Future Zamasu. Look at Episode 67 again. Future Zamasu is way above Present Zamasu since he can fight Goku as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan while Present Zamasu got overwhelmed by Super Saiyan 2 Goku.
Nothing in either version makes a mention of Future Zamasu being radically different from Present Zamasu outside of his immortality. Zamasu is a Kai who has probably been alive for million ps of years,his strength isn't going to multiple dozens or hundreds of fold in a measly 17 years
He was overwhelmed by SSJ2 Goku but then later on did say he was distracted and could have done better. Even then he's still inferior to SSJ2 Trunks.
f Present Zamasu was as weak you keep saying Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku should have stomped him like he did in the manga.
He did, twice.
And the anime already stated several times that Future Zamasu gets tag because of his poor guard. There is a reason Black doesn't want immortality.
Yeah I know I already pointed out one of the scenes you're on about when he looks away whilst in the middle of the fight with Goku and gets punched because of it. Don't exaggerate it, it's like that one person who thought every single time he's ever been hit it's because he just let down his guard.
And Goku used Super Saiyan God against Zamasu. Not Super Saiyan.
In the manga he used Blue and then after realising how weak he was, he reverted back to just Super Saiyan as that was enough to deal with him.
That's because he's not on their level or anything like Black. That wouldn't even make sense with the story. That's why he stole Goku's body in the first place to get stronger.
Zamasu isn't even as strong as Base Black never mind being on the Super Saiyan Blue/Rose level.
Not sure you're being smart, it clear he means mortal fighters. Especially if Black is still behind Beerus and Champa is comparable to Beerus. So try again.
It doesn't need to be said. We clearly see Future Zamasu trading blows with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku when Present Zamasu got overwhelmed with Super Saiyan 2 Goku. And Goku never fought Zamasu in the manga so why would he make a comparison. Seriously, you have to be dense not to get the context that Goku struggled against Future Zamasu when he had a much easier time with Present Zamasu using not even half of his full power. And since Zamasu is a prodigy who Goku said could surpassed Beerus one day, who says he can't get that much stronger in 17 years? You? Certainly the show never claimed that. And Present Zamasu said he was 'distracted' when he was trying to get them to go away so he could kill Gowasu.
He didn't stomp him until he got his rage boost and when Zamasu was trying to rush over to help Black. Episode 57, you saw what happened especially since someone posted a gif.
I am not exaggerating. I am telling you exactly what the show said by both Trunks and Goku. Black himself make note of this by saying he didn't want immorality out of fear of becoming rusty.
Which is really stupid since in the manga Goku loses energy that way. On top of that, in their second fight Goku used Super Saiyan God. And you're ignoring the other reasons he stole Goku's body. It wasn't all about power in the anime. It was Goku humiliating him, him being a powerful mortal, and the fact that he could grow to surpassed the gods. His overall growth was higher than Zamasu's godly body.
He's in the tier of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku. If he wasn't, Goku wouldn't have struggled at all in Episode 57 or be held down by Zamasu so Black could waste them with a Kamehameha.
And Zamasu isn't as strong as base Black. Then why didn't Merged Zamasu get stomped by Vegetto like his manga counterpart and he knocked Vegetto on his butt when they clashed fists and took a Final Kamehameha? Do you really think Black alone made up the different. This is just you not wanting to accept that Future Zamasu isn't as weak as you think.
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