"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ki Breaker]

Can't believe we're almost at 100... Has it really been two years?

Yeah, dosen't feel like it right
Someday it will end as well, and most will stray away with nothing new to discuss, a ghost forum awaits

[Basaku]

So, now that Gohan has got serious, if he continues this he will eventually get the strongest guy title back, and goku won't be able to take the front seat again.
So, What else can they do to keep him out after this, besides pulling him forgetting his lesson yet again?

Probably Vegeta and Goku will travel to another universe. Apart from that it will probably just be another case of character assassination.

This has me nervous. I know they're going to have to make him slack again because it's the only way to keep Goku looking special.

Maybe, maybe not. Can't know with Toriyama because if he wakes up one day in particularly Goku-loving mood he will relegate everyone else to the background instantly. Happened once, may as well happen again.

Toei on the other hand probably thinks of it more strategically and fully realizes at this stage that the show's phenomenon ain't based solely on Goku and that fans want large cast of relevant fighters so they may be pulling the strings to steer the developement of the series new stories into broader direction that ain't dependant so much on 1 character.

[Simere]

Probably Vegeta and Goku will travel to another universe. Apart from that it will probably just be another case of character assassination.

This has me nervous. I know they're going to have to make him slack again because it's the only way to keep Goku looking special.

Maybe, maybe not. Can't know with Toriyama because if he wakes up one day in particularly Goku-loving mood he will relegate everyone else to the background instantly. Happened once, may as well happen again.

Toei on the other hand probably thinks of it more strategically and fully realizes at this stage that the show's phenomenon ain't based solely on Goku and that fans want large cast of relevant fighters so they may be pulling the strings to steer the developement of the series new stories into broader direction that ain't dependant so much on 1 character.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume to know what fans want.

[Basaku]

I wouldn't be so quick to assume to know what fans want.

Seeing how Super changes and how it's literally taking fan memes and implementing them into the show, I say the current developement is a reflection of what Toei sees the fans asking for and it ain't a neverending Goku-only fanservice

[Chuquita]

Gohan's safe. He's not going anywhere. He's replaced Vegeta because someone decided Vegeta's too old or the current series producer prefers Gohan instead.

It'd take a lot to shake my faith in Gohan departing from the main cast now.

Gokû and Vegeta's joint adventures are over unless the manga tells a wildly different version of this story.

[ArchedThunder]

Gohan's safe. He's not going anywhere. He's replaced Vegeta because someone decided Vegeta's too old or the current series producer prefers Gohan instead.

It'd take a lot to shake my faith in Gohan departing from the main cast now.

Gokû and Vegeta's joint adventures are over unless the manga tells a wildly different version of this story.

You seriously need to stop with this, Vegeta is a known quantity and has seen consistent character development through the series, they don't need to spend significant amounts of time on him before the tournament, they are instead focusing on those who haven't had as much development.
Vegeta isn't going anywhere. Vegeta has developed into someone who loves his family and his wife just had a baby, the use of him so far this arc makes perfect sense.

[precita]

Now that Gohan has returned to form I hope the next arc after this one focuses on Trunks and Goten finally. Hopefully during EOZ with Pan and Uub there as well.

Teenage/adult Goten has such a cool design. At least he doesn't look like a Goku clone anymore.

[Boo Machine]

Gohan's safe. He's not going anywhere. He's replaced Vegeta because someone decided Vegeta's too old or the current series producer prefers Gohan instead.

It'd take a lot to shake my faith in Gohan departing from the main cast now.

Gokû and Vegeta's joint adventures are over unless the manga tells a wildly different version of this story.

Why do you keep assuming Vegeta is being replaced? Does he need to be attached to Gokus hip 24/7 or the fans will assume he is gone forever? The series just want's to focus on the other character involved in the arc at these moments. Wouldn't help if Vegeta is taking up half the screen time like he always does when he is around. Until Someone or the character himself says he is retired, I think it's pretty safe to assume that he isn't going anywhere.

[BlueBasilisk]

You seriously need to stop with this, Vegeta is a known quantity and has seen consistent character development through the series, they don't need to spend significant amounts of time on him before the tournament, they are instead focusing on those who haven't had as much development.
Vegeta isn't going anywhere. Vegeta has developed into someone who loves his family and his wife just had a baby, the use of him so far this arc makes perfect sense.

Unless they fully retcon that part of End of Z, he will need to part ways with Goku for at least a couple years before the world tournament. Unless they handle that during a time skip, which I could see. Vegeta is practically the deuteragonist in Super.

[ArchedThunder]

Unless they fully retcon that part of End of Z, he will need to part ways with Goku for at least a couple years before the world tournament. Unless they handle that during a time skip, which I could see. Vegeta is practically the deuteragonist in Super.

Any comments about characters not having seen each other for a long time at the end of Z should probably be ignored at this point. They can keep a "Long time no see" feel by retconning 5 years to a few months.

[BlueBasilisk]

Unless they fully retcon that part of End of Z, he will need to part ways with Goku for at least a couple years before the world tournament. Unless they handle that during a time skip, which I could see. Vegeta is practically the deuteragonist in Super.

Any comments about characters not having seen each other for a long time at the end of Z should probably be ignored at this point. They can keep a "Long time no see" feel by retconning 5 years to a few months.

I'm perfectly fine with a change like that. It always left a sour taste in my mouth that Goku hadn't seen his friends for years and then disappeared on them again immediately.

[ArchedThunder]

I'm perfectly fine with a change like that. It always left a sour taste in my mouth that Goku hadn't seen his friends for years and then disappeared on them again immediately.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Goku sees his friends again not long after leaving with Uub.

[perucho1990]

Gohan's safe. He's not going anywhere. He's replaced Vegeta because someone decided Vegeta's too old or the current series producer prefers Gohan instead.

It'd take a lot to shake my faith in Gohan departing from the main cast now.

Gokû and Vegeta's joint adventures are over unless the manga tells a wildly different version of this story.

He isnt replacing Vegeta, he will be back once the ToP starts, as the ED points out, the Main Cast is basically Goku, Gohan and Vegeta aka DBS Monster Trio, the arc needed someone to replace Vegeta as part of the main cast and that was Gohan, he has gotten the most focus in this arc, even more than Goku.

Unlike Trunks, Gohan reaching Blue level doesnt feel forced, we have known Gohan that he is the king of the powerups, and besides that, Gohan never ever had mental training.

Mental Training was a key into reaching God-Tier(Whis told that to Vegeta).

[Chuquita]

I will be happy to be proven wrong, but I need to see the proof first.

Without episode titles or ads I have no way to know outside of the episodes I've already seen so far of this arc. And so far this arc Vegeta hasn't done much of anything.

Regarding EoZ, that comes down to how willing they are to retcon it. Without a retcon that is the end of the line for him.

[Beyond]

Saiyans fans got their first world problems.

Tien fans are dying as we speak from lack of respect, Krillin fan's stuck oil, and 17 fans are coming back from a long leave of absence with gold in their hands. It amazing that all these characters have such strong fan bases even after all the abuse. You are either ride or die or you're a fake fan. I'm fake I was about abandon Piccolo , but 88 brought me back. One day I might be a real boy too. A lot of these fans had to become delusional to keep their faith though. It's hard times we live in.

[Chuquita]

Comparing and contrasting doesn't make me feel any better or worse.

Ultimately what I should be doing is observing the whole MST3K adage of remembering it's just a show, I should really just relax.

Not like we can actively impact what goes on in the show anyway. It's only the really loud voices that get through if not!Brolli is any indication.

[precita]

The only aspect of Vegeta I want to see in the tournament is how he reacts to Freeza. Other than that he's likely fighting that fat woman teletubbie as seen in the opening, but probably not much beyond that.

[kinisking]

Guys, this is Vegeta. He isn't going anywhere. I'd love to see Gohan and Vegeta interaction though. We don't get enough of that.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Saiyans fans got their first world problems.

Tien fans are dying as we speak from lack of respect, Krillin fan's stuck oil, and 17 fans are coming back from a long leave of absence with gold in their hands. It amazing that all these characters have such strong fan bases even after all the abuse. You are either ride or die or you're a fake fan. I'm fake I was about abandon Piccolo , but 88 brought me back. One day I might be a real boy too. A lot of these fans had to become delusional to keep their faith though. It's hard times we live in.

Why would you be surprised the guy who was never that strong still isnt that strong? Krillin wasn't overly impressive either...at the end of the day he is still just scrappy little Krillin.

[MainJPW]

Why would you be surprised the guy who was never that strong still isnt that strong? Krillin wasn't overly impressive either...at the end of the day he is still just scrappy little Krillin.

Eh, I mean Kuririn atleast got some actual decent showings, even made Goku transform. Tenshinhan on the other hand got treated like complete fodder for two episodes in a row, they didn't even let the guy land anything.