"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by HeroR » Mon May 15, 2017 10:50 pm

Grimlock wrote:Well, Broly in the anime is a thing and everyone's getting Super Saiyan for free, even with Toriyama around. So I don't see how Bardock would make things worse.
Kale isn't Broly. She just has his transformation.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Basaku » Mon May 15, 2017 10:51 pm

Neither "ultimate" form will sell toys or game DLC though if it just looks the same as base form, let's be honest. More than likely some visual change will happen, at least for one of them. White hair for Gohan would fit with the "Ultimate" form's aura at least

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Post by perucho1990 » Mon May 15, 2017 10:57 pm

Basaku wrote:Neither "ultimate" form will sell toys or game DLC though if it just looks the same as base form, let's be honest. More than likely some visual change will happen, at least for one of them. White hair for Gohan would fit with the "Ultimate" form's aura at least
If Gohan gains an aura like SSJ Ikari, I could see kids buying Gohan action figures, the toys sales last year was better than this year, though its probably because of Trunks, Black and Vegetto.

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Post by Dai-Saiyajin » Tue May 16, 2017 12:35 am

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ArchedThunder wrote:Image
Wow, Dragon Ball is really close to One Piece in Japan now as far as Toei's cash flow is concerned.
The growth of Dragon Ball over the past few years is crazy.
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DBS finally surpassed one piece in the overall, DB - 9.170.000.000 yen, OP - 7.713.000.000 yen

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Post by Ki Breaker » Tue May 16, 2017 2:31 am

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Can't have freeza back without the classic rof art now can we
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue May 16, 2017 4:50 am

perucho1990 wrote:
Basaku wrote:Neither "ultimate" form will sell toys or game DLC though if it just looks the same as base form, let's be honest. More than likely some visual change will happen, at least for one of them. White hair for Gohan would fit with the "Ultimate" form's aura at least
If Gohan gains an aura like SSJ Ikari, I could see kids buying Gohan action figures, the toys sales last year was better than this year, though its probably because of Trunks, Black and Vegetto.
Except all those went on and go on sale this year, Trunks Ikari hasn't been marketed at all.

The first and only Kaioken figure was released this Feb, 2017 will finish the year strongly in toy sales, we are only halfway through it after all and it's only 1.6 behind 2016, easily gonna surpass that.

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Post by emperior » Tue May 16, 2017 6:19 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
Basaku wrote:Neither "ultimate" form will sell toys or game DLC though if it just looks the same as base form, let's be honest. More than likely some visual change will happen, at least for one of them. White hair for Gohan would fit with the "Ultimate" form's aura at least
If Gohan gains an aura like SSJ Ikari, I could see kids buying Gohan action figures, the toys sales last year was better than this year, though its probably because of Trunks, Black and Vegetto.
Except all those went on and go on sale this year, Trunks Ikari hasn't been marketed at all.

The first and only Kaioken figure was released this Feb, 2017 will finish the year strongly in toy sales, we are only halfway through it after all and it's only 1.6 behind 2016, easily gonna surpass that.

What?
Does this mean all these new forms are being made just for the plot and not for toys? Strange, I didn't know Super had to be an entertaining show. Yes I'm being sarcastic. Some of highlights of the show for me have been Goku using Kaio-Ken vs Hit and Trunks turning into that new form of his (which unfortunately wasn't explained, but that was still super entertaining)

Super has some flaws, but it's not all about fan service.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue May 16, 2017 6:23 am

Basaku wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Either Nozawa and/or Toei have a replacement already trained and waiting, or Shueisha will go full on Dragon Ball Heroes like they wanted to and they'll have Beat and Note staring in a replacement show.
Good luck with that Shueisha, because financially Heroes did little-to-nothing for either Toei or Bandai
That's not true. The franchise was taking a dive when Kai was airing, and after it was cancelled & Heroes became more popular, Heroes raised the numbers again, which is why we got a theatrical movie in 2013 (Battle of Gods). Then Kai was revived, FnF happened, and now we have Super. If it wasn't for Heroes, Super would probably not exist today.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by ciccioDM » Tue May 16, 2017 7:23 am

Q: Usually, big authors do imagine the endings of their stories from the beginning; do you know or do you have in mind the ending of Dragon Ball Super?

Toyotarō: “Dragon Ball Super must reach Dragon Ball's ending: the last chapter, 10 years after Majin Boo. The story must go there; they must meet there. The story will go to where Dragon Ball ends. Even Toriyama, when drawing the original manga, did not think about the end of it, and so we still don't know how far we want to go yet”.
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Post by Araki » Tue May 16, 2017 8:23 am

emperior wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
If Gohan gains an aura like SSJ Ikari, I could see kids buying Gohan action figures, the toys sales last year was better than this year, though its probably because of Trunks, Black and Vegetto.
Except all those went on and go on sale this year, Trunks Ikari hasn't been marketed at all.

The first and only Kaioken figure was released this Feb, 2017 will finish the year strongly in toy sales, we are only halfway through it after all and it's only 1.6 behind 2016, easily gonna surpass that.

What?
Does this mean all these new forms are being made just for the plot and not for toys? Strange, I didn't know Super had to be an entertaining show. Yes I'm being sarcastic. Some of highlights of the show for me have been Goku using Kaio-Ken vs Hit and Trunks turning into that new form of his (which unfortunately wasn't explained, but that was still super entertaining)

Super has some flaws, but it's not all about fan service.
I will take that chance to get into a small rant. Some people got this set mind that everything is made for toys, even bring Freeza back, when anyone who's into this kind of thing knows that villains/monsters/evil beings typically don't sell when it comes to kids. Heck, in kids' shows like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai they're completely ignored by the toy lines. That's why even in Dragon Ball, characters like Freeza, when they do get something it's mostly limited stuff aimed at older fans. He's coming back because Toriyama wanted, simple like that.

If Bandai had such a heavy hand over these things there would be no reason for Vegeta to not have adopted his ridiculous SSG form from the manga in the anime already.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue May 16, 2017 8:32 am

These leaked earlier this morning finally got a translation.

"WCF Vol.9 Son Goku Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Gohan
WCF Vol.9 Golden Freeza (Angel)
WCF Vol.9 Kale (the girl who looks like Broly)
WCF Vol.9 Jiren"

We will see Freeza's beautiful Golden form! :)

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Post by perucho1990 » Tue May 16, 2017 8:36 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:These leaked earlier this morning finally got a translation.

"WCF Vol.9 Son Goku Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Gohan
WCF Vol.9 Golden Freeza (Angel)
WCF Vol.9 Kale (the girl who looks like Broly)
WCF Vol.9 Jiren"

We will see Freeza's beautiful Golden form! :)
You just beat me to it, heh.

I hope this means Kale will be the surprise of the ToP, and not just a gag character.

Not surprised at Gohan being there with the current treatment he has been getting and mentioning he will get a new transformation.

And so much for Vegeta being shaft aside and he is getting a new action figure, it was expected he will be back in the spotlight once the ToP begins.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue May 16, 2017 8:41 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:These leaked earlier this morning finally got a translation.

"WCF Vol.9 Son Goku Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Gohan
WCF Vol.9 Golden Freeza (Angel)
WCF Vol.9 Kale (the girl who looks like Broly)
WCF Vol.9 Jiren"

We will see Freeza's beautiful Golden form! :)
I can already picture Freeza acting like a fool and breaking the rules and fucking over his team. :)

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue May 16, 2017 8:48 am

Why Kale? I want a Cauli one as well! and that better be Ultimate Gohan.

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Post by TekTheNinja » Tue May 16, 2017 8:50 am

SansrivaaL wrote:Why Kale? I want a Cauli one as well! and that better be Ultimate Gohan.
It's probably buff Kale too because that's marketable. :problem:

Caulifla is a character I'm already startin' to love.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue May 16, 2017 8:51 am

perucho1990 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:These leaked earlier this morning finally got a translation.

"WCF Vol.9 Son Goku Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue (SSGSS)
WCF Vol.9 Gohan
WCF Vol.9 Golden Freeza (Angel)
WCF Vol.9 Kale (the girl who looks like Broly)
WCF Vol.9 Jiren"

We will see Freeza's beautiful Golden form! :)
You just beat me to it, heh.

I hope this means Kale will be the surprise of the ToP, and not just a gag character.

Not surprised at Gohan being there with the current treatment he has been getting and mentioning he will get a new transformation.

And so much for Vegeta being shaft aside and he is getting a new action figure, it was expected he will be back in the spotlight once the ToP begins.
@bold- Wait what? Who mentioned that?

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Post by HeroR » Tue May 16, 2017 8:54 am

Araki wrote:
I will take that chance to get into a small rant. Some people got this set mind that everything is made for toys, even bring Freeza back, when anyone who's into this kind of thing knows that villains/monsters/evil beings typically don't sell when it comes to kids. Heck, in kids' shows like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai they're completely ignored by the toy lines. That's why even in Dragon Ball, characters like Freeza, when they do get something it's mostly limited stuff aimed at older fans. He's coming back because Toriyama wanted, simple like that.

If Bandai had such a heavy hand over these things there would be no reason for Vegeta to not have adopted his ridiculous SSG form from the manga in the anime already.
You need to post more often. Your posts are like a breath of fresh air when someone lets out BS.

While Dragon Ball can be market driving, not everything that happens in the show is because of toys. Not to mention, we would have gotten Super Saiyan God Goku with his Resurrection 'F' outfit. Heck, we probably we have gotten Super Saiyan God Gohan by now until of him getting Ultimate again.
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Post by perucho1990 » Tue May 16, 2017 9:06 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: @bold- Wait what? Who mentioned that?
Gohan said his main goal is to reach a transformation beyond Ultimate.

In the video games they had Ultimate Gohan with the SSJ Aura, I wonder if they will have the SSJ Aura for when Gohan gets his new transformation or he will get the same aura as SSJ Ikari.

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Post by The gr » Tue May 16, 2017 9:17 am

Araki wrote:
emperior wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Except all those went on and go on sale this year, Trunks Ikari hasn't been marketed at all.

The first and only Kaioken figure was released this Feb, 2017 will finish the year strongly in toy sales, we are only halfway through it after all and it's only 1.6 behind 2016, easily gonna surpass that.

What?
Does this mean all these new forms are being made just for the plot and not for toys? Strange, I didn't know Super had to be an entertaining show. Yes I'm being sarcastic. Some of highlights of the show for me have been Goku using Kaio-Ken vs Hit and Trunks turning into that new form of his (which unfortunately wasn't explained, but that was still super entertaining)

Super has some flaws, but it's not all about fan service.
I will take that chance to get into a small rant. Some people got this set mind that everything is made for toys, even bring Freeza back, when anyone who's into this kind of thing knows that villains/monsters/evil beings typically don't sell when it comes to kids. Heck, in kids' shows like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai they're completely ignored by the toy lines. That's why even in Dragon Ball, characters like Freeza, when they do get something it's mostly limited stuff aimed at older fans. He's coming back because Toriyama wanted, simple like that.

If Bandai had such a heavy hand over these things there would be no reason for Vegeta to not have adopted his ridiculous SSG form from the manga in the anime already.
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    Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue May 16, 2017 9:26 am

    Araki wrote:I will take that chance to get into a small rant. Some people got this set mind that everything is made for toys, even bring Freeza back, when anyone who's into this kind of thing knows that villains/monsters/evil beings typically don't sell when it comes to kids. Heck, in kids' shows like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai they're completely ignored by the toy lines. That's why even in Dragon Ball, characters like Freeza, when they do get something it's mostly limited stuff aimed at older fans. He's coming back because Toriyama wanted, simple like that.

    If Bandai had such a heavy hand over these things there would be no reason for Vegeta to not have adopted his ridiculous SSG form from the manga in the anime already.
    Freeza has already been marketed adequately thanks for the Freeza arc so there was no need to bring him back to make him relevant I seriously doubt the higher ups wanted and forced Freeza back so they can now market him with a halo, :lol: so it is definitely a Toriyama in story addition. If this was a corporate thing then they would have bought Cell or something back. Same thing with Black SSR was a Toriyama thing and Toei didn't even give Black regular SS like Toyo too. If anything it is Manga that is more merchandise-y and fan service-y if you really think about it, but Toei get all the complaints :roll:

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