"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

Arc continues into next month?!

That's surprising. Maybe they will have enough Zamasu arc chapters to fill another full volume.

[Alruneia]

If Trunks goes ultimate... I have no words.

If that's what's happening, then I want to know exactly how he unlocked it. I also want to know what it looks like. Will it look like his base? Will it be his SSJ2 hair but base coloured? SSJ1? Will it stand straight up somehow? Will it magically get one bang like Gohan??

[dbzfan7]

Vegeta: Wait Trunks, if you can only restore our physical power for 1time then do it to Kakarot.
Trunks: Why?
Vegeta: The only one who can fight in SSJB against Zamasu on an equal footing isnt me but Kakarot.
So whats going on? even after his RoF time Goku's still for some reason above Vegeta?

WHAT!?!

And since when could Future Trunks restore physical power? What an asspull. That's even worse than Future Trunks learning the Mafuba in a few minutes.

People could always donate their ki to each other. It's just usually useless as it's someone weaker to someone way stronger, like Krillin and Gohan giving Piccolo ki. Trunks base form is on par if not arguably greater than Goku's, so restoring him in his base state is fine. Now if he healed all his injuries I'd call bullshit, but if he just gave him more ki, that's happened before.

[SansrivaaL]

Trunks: Goku's amazing... he can actually fight with Zamasu head on.
Vegeta: Kakarot can control the overflowing power of blue and contain it. (at least something like this, Vegeta's saying the power of blue overflows and comes out, but Goku can contain it)
Trunks: ?
Vegeta: The weakness of blue where you can only fight to your full potential in a short while.... Kakarot overcame it.
Trunks: Then... right now Goku is?
Vegeta: He's constantly fighting at a 100%... he's perfected Super Saiyan Blue.
Ok....

[Kanassa]

If Trunks goes ultimate... I have no words.

I'll have two reactions:
1. FUCKING FINALLY!
2. Why didn't you use that before!? You didn't slack off like Gohan did!

[Kanassa]

Trunks: Goku's amazing... he can actually fight with Zamasu head on.
Vegeta: Kakarot can control the overflowing power of blue and contain it. (at least something like this, Vegeta's saying the power of blue overflows and comes out, but Goku can contain it)
Trunks: ?
Vegeta: The weakness of blue where you can only fight to your full potential in a short while.... Kakarot overcame it.
Trunks: Then... right now Goku is?
Vegeta: He's constantly fighting at a 100%... he's perfected Super Saiyan Blue.
Ok....

I wonder when Goku figured this out, was it before the arc and he's only testing it now? Or did he figure it out just after they defused?

[mfwlegend3]

We Janemba now? Anyways, it's a very interesting direction, but my god, is this being dragged on more than I had anticipated. Was sure that it would end this month. Also, I love how Goku is drawn here, especially with his torn clothing.

[dbzfan7]

Trunks: Goku's amazing... he can actually fight with Zamasu head on.
Vegeta: Kakarot can control the overflowing power of blue and contain it. (at least something like this, Vegeta's saying the power of blue overflows and comes out, but Goku can contain it)
Trunks: ?
Vegeta: The weakness of blue where you can only fight to your full potential in a short while.... Kakarot overcame it.
Trunks: Then... right now Goku is?
Vegeta: He's constantly fighting at a 100%... he's perfected Super Saiyan Blue.
Ok....

Ok now that I will call out. That happened way too suddenly how? Also come on there's no way that'd make such a big difference against Zamasu who was way stronger anyways.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

And there was never indication it was permanent either. Much like every other Rage Boost we see in the series, they are always temporary.

This is the indication that he made it permanent. Trunks did the same, but with a smaller power-up. And Vegeta discovering a new power-up for SS2 makes more sense than getting a rage boost like Gohan & Oob did, because Vegeta doesn't have any dormant powers left in him since he's trained himself to his limits, and Babidi even brought him beyond his limits in the past.

And if Vegeta knew how monstrously strong his SSJ2 form was, he would have needed to to act like an idiot and use SSJB on Cabba.

What? Vegeta wanted to show Cabba the latest Super Saiyan form, which is Super Saiyan Blue.

[Kanassa]

Ok now that I will call out. That happened way too suddenly how? Also come on there's no way that'd make such a big difference against Zamasu who was way stronger anyways.

I'm guessing Goku was just exhausted in the fight before they fused, so he couldn't do it.

[LightBing]

I would love to see Trunks get Ultimate with a reasonable explanation of course. We still have like 35 pages to be revealed, so let's hold our horses. Let's see how everything unravels.

[Totamo]

YonkouProductions is releasing images of the latest chapter on Twitter and..... it does not bode well....

It cant be worst than the anime

[Legion]

Goku and Vegeta can already control SSJB in the anime

Goku did not damaged Zamasu, anyway. His not at his level.

[Lord Beerus]

And there was never indication it was permanent either. Much like every other Rage Boost we see in the series, they are always temporary.

This is the indication that he made it permanent. Trunks did the same, but with a smaller power-up. And Vegeta discovering a new power-up for SS2 makes more sense than getting a rage boost like Gohan & Oob did, because Vegeta doesn't have any dormant powers left in him since he's trained himself to his limits, and Babidi even brought him beyond his limits in the past.

And if Vegeta knew how monstrously strong his SSJ2 form was, he would have needed to to act like an idiot and use SSJB on Cabba.

What? Vegeta wanted to show Cabba the latest Super Saiyan form, which is Super Saiyan Blue.

You raise your battle power in every form. It isn't exclusive to SSJ2. And the rage boost wasn't exclusive to SSJ2 either. It just raised Vegeta's battle power overall as a whole several times over. It would have had the same effect if he was a SSJ, like he was in the movie.

And it wasn't a necessity for Vegtea to show off SSJB to Cabba. And if he wanted to, he didn't need to power down.

[sintzu]

This is some DBGT level of dialogue tbh.

Vegeta got Black all to himself so I guess it's fair to give Goku something.

We also don't know what will happen when Zamasu defuses, for all we know Vegeta could take on Black again.

What I'm interested in is how will Zeno play into this and if Goku can take care of this then why will we get an Ultimate Trunks ?

[IKevinX]

Didn't Vegeta already master Super Saiyan Blue before? And now suddenly Goku learned the step beyond that just from watching Vegeta and/or being Vegetto?

If only he took the opportunity to use Kaioken so we could end with Kaiokenable Goku in both continuities.

It seems there was no way to make this chaos of an ending make sense. A Fused Immortal God was just too overpowered from the getgo.
Well, one more month (maybe 2) before this arc ends, gotta wait.

[Lord Beerus]

So Goku with all of Future Trunks physical power, resulting in him mastering SSJB, is putting up a match against Merged Zamasu? Huh. Does this mean that Mastered SSJB Goku has become on par, if not stronger, than SSJB Vegetto? Because if so... holy shit.

[dbzfan7]

Ok now that I will call out. That happened way too suddenly how? Also come on there's no way that'd make such a big difference against Zamasu who was way stronger anyways.

I'm guessing Goku was just exhausted in the fight before they fused, so he couldn't do it.

I guess so. He did say he couldn't go Blue...then forced Blue and got his ass kicked....so maybe. Kinda makes Vegetto look worse considering how much more ridiculously powerful compared to Zamasu he'd be if Goku alone at 100% is his supposed equal....but I guess I'll wait for more before making a final call.

[mfwlegend3]

I feel bad for Vegeta fans. He's getting shit on so damn hard. Sure, he """"defeated"""" Black, but that was short lived.

[Totamo]

Is Goku fighting Merged zamasu evenly?


If he could have done that, what was the point of fusing?