Thanks appreciate it, i took my time thinking to post it and even while posting i thought of new possibilities which is why that post is all over the place. I wanted to post as many possibilities (reasonable) that i could think, so many of them complement each other.TheSaiyanGod wrote: Really, this is an impressive explanation, it makes sense.
I think it makes sense, that by transforming into SSB, energy begins to escape from your body in an incredible way.
Is so much energy, that to contain it inside the body is something that can cause it to break, which would already indicate why the Power Boost that gave Goku so great.
Not to mention that by sealing this energy, it can also leak, because it is extremely difficult to control within the body that amount of Ki struggling.
Basically, Vegeta has tried to minimize SSB weaknesses in a way other than Goku, a way in which he does not totally eliminate those weaknesses, even though he may be able to fight 100% for a short time.
While Goku found a way to dominate the SSB completely, without weaknesses, being able to be used constantly
I just think this would imply that the form has a much higher energy expenditure than the SSJ3, which I do not think. After all, we saw Vegeta turning into SSB against Black SSJ without hesitation, and fighting him for a long time
After reading the latest chapter what i think Vegeta does is release small explosive burst of energy and switch back to SSG, this is all done in a split second. The amount of energy released is small/contained enough that his body is able to quickly regenerate/recover while on SSG
Vegeta is known to take fights seriously from the get go and finish enemies fast, which is why he went SSB against SSJ2 black
I used to think of it in terms of energy expenditure (SS3, Golden Freeza) too before this chapter, in the u6 arc manga Goku comments made it appear as though SSB consumed a shit ton of energy. But now with this new chapter i think its got to do more with the type of energy blue is and how it leaks, to fully control it you have to seal it. Once you complete SSB you can fight 100% without the drawbacks of Golden Freeza/SS3 but right now it puts a tremendous strain on the body which is why Goku said it was too early to try. All this feels very reminiscent of the first time Goku used Kaioken in the U6 arc, how the strain was too hard on his body and it was a incomplete technique
The whole containing/sealing also its very similar to when they contained their energy inside them on that other dimensional place and felt the power of the Gods
Yep yep, not to mention Vegeta seems to have taken note from Gokus book of relaxing/chilling when the time is due- On previous episodes he was seen casually around the house, perhaps its like whiss said what Vegeta needed is time off to relax from training and gain new perspectiveTheSaiyanGod wrote: Vegeta can stay there for over two months.
Is relative to the amount of power that he can have. He aims to overcome Goku, so his training will be much more intense, based on his rival (not to mention that there is little time left for the tournament, so he has to stay longer Strong fast).
With the power gains we're having in this Saga, it would not be surprising for Vegeta to get much stronger
Elder Kaioshin offering the Mystic ritual to goku was interesting as wellwolflonnie wrote:Some interesting tidbits in this episode:
- Gohan was stated to have a power that "rivals Goku's", by the narrator. So it's more likely, to him, to be around SSG/SSB levels.
- U6 was stated to be, from the Grand Priest, a rival to U7. Not just Hit. So Cabba & co., in the U6 tournament, must have been indeed very strong.
Well see how Gohan performs in the tournament, narrator usually makes broad statements
I'm hoping Cabba will be stronger than before
That would be really sweetBullza wrote:I'd like to them do something with Vegeta. In the anime it seems that no matter how strong he gets, Goku will always be stronger because of the Kaioken and the ability to increase his power multiple fold at a moment's notice.
I have no idea what they could do but it'd be nice if he had some kind of answer of his own for Kaioken.
One scenario which would be really cool is if Gokus secret transformation/trump card actually is complete SSB. Imagine Goku fighting Jiren and pulling it off then out of the blue another super powerful enemy appears and Vegeta goes ahead pulling off SSB surprising Goku saying something like, did you think you were the only one who keeps secrets kakarot?
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