"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

Full detailed preview is out.

http://moca-news.net/article/20170527/2 ... 9000a_/01/

Kale seiyuu is the same one that voiced Isane in Bleach, Shirahoshi in OP.

Beerus is such a savage that wanted to Hakai Krillin for quitting the team, idk but I like how realistic Beerus looks to be portrayed.

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

[SaiyanGod117]

Basically, just because Vegetas atrocities happened off screen doesn't mean he was any better. His kill count is probably much higher due to being a henchmen. And I don't want to hear that crap about him being forced to follow orders, he killed people by his own choice.

It doesn't matter to me which one committed more atrocities off screen or not. It's been shown time and time again that Frieza is a sneaky, can't be trusted, and won listen to reason. Frieza is a leading exemplar of an unredeemable character, he's given second chances more than any character and squanders them everytime. Having him becoming a friend/ally to the Z-fighters is bad writing period, especially since all of the things he's done to them.

[precita]

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

Ha, I remember calling that Kale and Caulifla would be sisters. Looks like I was right.

[Alruneia]

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

A whole lotta fanart just became a lot worse.

[Kanassa]

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

A whole lotta fanart just became a lot worse.

THat's the best part

[precita]

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

A whole lotta fanart just became a lot worse.

Incest never scared away shippers. Especially with two girls. I don't look up Dragonball fanart but I know how much this stuff exists.

[Freeza9000]

I wonder what Beerus is threatening Krillin about. Probably his way to trying to reveal the truth about the tournament.

[ArchedThunder]

Also, confirmed that Kale and Caulifla are sisters.

Ajay said it doesn't say that, says that Kale is Caulifla's protegee.

I wonder what Beerus is threatening Krillin about. Probably his way to trying to reveal the truth about the tournament.

The NEP said Krillin and 18 wanted to drop out.

[Freeza9000]

I wonder what Beerus is threatening Krillin about. Probably his way to trying to reveal the truth about the tournament.

The NEP said Krillin and 18 wanted to drop out.

Then it's probably Beerus's way of trying to get Krillin back on the team. We'll see.

[Kagari]

Kale is Caulifla's protegee. Her profile mentions while she's a Saiyan from U6, she has a timid personality.

[perucho1990]

妹分 means "sworn younger sister" or "protegee".

Well after this revelation, for sure there will be more fanarts in the making

[HeroR]

It doesn't matter to me which one committed more atrocities off screen or not. It's been shown time and time again that Frieza is a sneaky, can't be trusted, and won listen to reason. Frieza is a leading exemplar of an unredeemable character, he's given second chances more than any character and squanders them everytime. Having him becoming a friend/ally to the Z-fighters is bad writing period, especially since all of the things he's done to them.

So, basically Vegeta until he dies against Buu.

[SaiyanGod117]

It doesn't matter to me which one committed more atrocities off screen or not. It's been shown time and time again that Frieza is a sneaky, can't be trusted, and won listen to reason. Frieza is a leading exemplar of an unredeemable character, he's given second chances more than any character and squanders them everytime. Having him becoming a friend/ally to the Z-fighters is bad writing period, especially since all of the things he's done to them.

So, basically Vegeta until he dies against Buu.

No, completely polar opposites. Don't just pick out one part of what I said and exclude everything else. Vegeta has been given chances to redeem himself and while Frieza has been given multiple and threw them to the wayside. It's in his character. Not only that, but even when he was groveling on the ground and beaten. He still find a way to turn tables and destroy the Earth, proving even more he's dangerous person to have around and has absolutely no redeeming qualities to be kept as a friend. His actions and words have explicitly shown he detest Goku(and crew) and anything that has to do with good.

[precita]

It doesn't matter to me which one committed more atrocities off screen or not. It's been shown time and time again that Frieza is a sneaky, can't be trusted, and won listen to reason. Frieza is a leading exemplar of an unredeemable character, he's given second chances more than any character and squanders them everytime. Having him becoming a friend/ally to the Z-fighters is bad writing period, especially since all of the things he's done to them.

So, basically Vegeta until he dies against Buu.

HeroR didn't you say before you disliked Vegeta? Unless I'm remembering wrong or thinking of someone else, perhaps it's your dislike of Vegeta that makes you think he was as irredeemable as Freeza is. They're not the same.

[HeroR]

No, completely polar opposites. Don't just pick out one part of what I said and exclude everything else. Vegeta has been given chances to redeem himself and while Frieza has been given multiple and threw them to the wayside. It's in his character. Not only that, but even when he was groveling on the ground and beaten. He still find a way to turn tables and destroy the Earth, proving even more he's dangerous person to have around and has absolutely no redeeming qualities to be kept as a friend. His actions and words have explicitly shown he detest Goku(and crew) and anything that has to do with good.

Vegeta was basically the same. He was extremely untrustworthy and betrayed the group several times all the way until he blew himself up against. Buu. Vegeta was giving a chance to redeem himself and, quite frankly, it fucked it up several times. The only reason he lasted as long as he did is because the cast is stupidly forgiving.

Freeza maybe bad, but Vegeta wasn't too far behind. The only real different is that Vegeta was a tad bit smarter than Freeza.

HeroR didn't you say before you disliked Vegeta? Unless I'm remembering wrong or thinking of someone else, perhaps it's your dislike of Vegeta that makes you think he was as irredeemable as Freeza is. They're not the same.

On a whole, I am indifferent towards Vegeta. If he dies, I wouldn't care.

My problem is that for some reason Vegeta is getting whitewash with 'he isn't irredeemable as Freeza', when he pulled the same shit. They're both mass-murderers, responsible for several genocides, tried to blow up the Earth when he was losing to Goku, slowly crushed every born in Goku's body and mocked Gohan for trying to save his father, tried to kill Gohan in front of Goku, we saw him waste an entire Namekian village (elder and child) with a huge grin on his face, rubbed in the faces of those who were brought back that they weren't revived because he wasn't one of Freeza's man, planned to kill Goku, Gohan, and Krillin as soon as he got his wish from the Dragon Balls, treated Future Trunks like crap to the point of physically assaulting him, betrayed his own teammates twice first with letting Cell become complete and then selling his soul to Babidi, and he happily murdered thousands of people just to provoke Goku into fighting him. And you're trying to tell me that he wasn't 'irredeemable'.

The only reason why Vegeta was redeem was because of the story, not because of his actual character that made him one of the biggest bastards on the show. Freeza is all what Vegeta would have become if he was in a real position of power.

[SaiyanGod117]

Vegeta was basically the same. He was extremely untrustworthy and betrayed the group several times all the way until he blew himself up against. Buu. Vegeta was giving a chance to redeem himself and, quite frankly, it fucked it up several times. The only reason he lasted as long as he did is because the cast is stupidly forgiving.

Freeza maybe bad, but Vegeta wasn't too far behind. The only real different is that Vegeta was a tad bit smarter than Frezza.

Sure, you can say their personalities and tendencies are the same. Though Frieza takes it up to a whole another tier, just because one character has the same attributes as another character doesn't make them the same character. It's like comparing Count Dooku to Palpatine or Penguin to Joker, one is just a lot more wicked than the other. Someone gave a good anagloy how Frieza joining the Z-fighters, would be like Joker joining the Justice League.

[HeroR]

Sure, you can say their personalities and tendencies are the same. Though Frieza takes it up to a whole another tier, just because one character has the same attributes as another character doesn't make them the same character. It's like comparing Count Dooku to Palpatine or Penguin to Joker, one is just a lot more wicked than the other. Someone gave a good anagloy how Frieza joining the Z-fighters, would be like Joker joining the Justice League.

The only reason why Vegeta didn't take it as far as he could was because he had people around him that could kick his butt. If he was unrestrained, he would be Freeza. And which version of the Joker are you referring?

[JulieYBM]

Vegeta was basically the same. He was extremely untrustworthy and betrayed the group several times all the way until he blew himself up against. Buu. Vegeta was giving a chance to redeem himself and, quite frankly, it fucked it up several times. The only reason he lasted as long as he did is because the cast is stupidly forgiving.

Freeza maybe bad, but Vegeta wasn't too far behind. The only real different is that Vegeta was a tad bit smarter than Frezza.

Sure, you can say their personalities and tendencies are the same. Though Frieza takes it up to a whole another tier, just because one character has the same attributes as another character doesn't make them the same character. It's like comparing Count Dooku to Palpatine or Penguin to Joker, one is just a lot more wicked than the other. Someone gave a good anagloy how Frieza joining the Z-fighters, would be like Joker joining the Justice League.

The Joker has become so boring that having him turn a new leaf and join the Justice League would be the best thing to happen for his character.

I can see it now, Mister J and Harley settling down in the suburbs with a nice white picket fence...

[Saitou Hajime]

They could turn Frieza into the Malcolm Merlyn or Captain Cold (pre-Legends) of the group, the unrepentant villain with the uneasy relationship with the heroes and occasional alliances and pet the moment (you could probably lose the last one).

[SaiyanGod117]

Sure, you can say their personalities and tendencies are the same. Though Frieza takes it up to a whole another tier, just because one character has the same attributes as another character doesn't make them the same character. It's like comparing Count Dooku to Palpatine or Penguin to Joker, one is just a lot more wicked than the other. Someone gave a good anagloy how Frieza joining the Z-fighters, would be like Joker joining the Justice League.

The only reason why Vegeta didn't take it as far as he could was because he had people around him that could kick his butt. If he was unrestrained, he would be Freeza. And which version of the Joker are you referring?

Thats speculation and Frieza's made it abundantly clear how evil he is, he's efinitely the most evil villain in the DB Franchise, turning him into a good guy would ruin him.

New 52/Rebirth Joker

Vegeta was basically the same. He was extremely untrustworthy and betrayed the group several times all the way until he blew himself up against. Buu. Vegeta was giving a chance to redeem himself and, quite frankly, it fucked it up several times. The only reason he lasted as long as he did is because the cast is stupidly forgiving.

Freeza maybe bad, but Vegeta wasn't too far behind. The only real different is that Vegeta was a tad bit smarter than Frezza.

Sure, you can say their personalities and tendencies are the same. Though Frieza takes it up to a whole another tier, just because one character has the same attributes as another character doesn't make them the same character. It's like comparing Count Dooku to Palpatine or Penguin to Joker, one is just a lot more wicked than the other. Someone gave a good anagloy how Frieza joining the Z-fighters, would be like Joker joining the Justice League.

The Joker has become so boring that having him turn a new leaf and join the Justice League would be the best thing to happen for his character.

I can see it now, Mister J and Harley settling down in the suburbs with a nice white picket fence...

You read comics? I would like that to see that too, then next thing you know he turns around and backstabs all of them. I don't think he would really add anything to the team in the long run.