"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Lord Beerus]

A look at two of Universe 3's fighters (from the DBS twitter):
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I wonder if you get 15 silver points for beating him?

I'm a sucker for mecha and giant robots, so I love this.

[perucho1990]

Herms:

Mr. Satan explains that Buu ordinarily only needs to sleep a few seconds, but will sleep for months once he falls into a deep sleep...

Thus explaining that scene in the Buu arc where he sleep for all of five seconds. There, that's one plot hole down.

Its nice to see Toei explaining Buu falling asleep, Now we need to see Toei giving both Kale and Caulifla a backstory, if it doesnt happen tonight, it better happen next week once Kale goes LSSJ.

[Lord Beerus]

Hmm. The expliantion of Majin Boo not waking up actually works very well and it doesn't contradict anything pre-established about the character. It still sucks that Majin Boo is out of the team, but the explanation is satisfactory enough, so I'll let it slide.

[Grimlock]

While the explanation is... acceptable, at most. What sucks everything is that this is a convenient "detail" (lack of a better word) for not letting Majin Buu to participate. Why would he fall asleep now of all time? Why haven't we heard and seen this before? This should feel natural but, as of now, it's just a terrible excuse.

[The gr]

A look at two of Universe 3's fighters (from the DBS twitter):
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I wonder if you get 15 silver points for beating him?

What's so funny about it,can you please stop putting emojis and no text post, because they don't contribute to anything,read rule #3 pls

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[Psykomatik]

While the explanation is... acceptable, at most. What sucks everything is that this is a convenient "detail" (lack of a better word) for not letting Majin Buu to participate. Why would he fall asleep now of all time? Why haven't we heard and seen this before? This should feel natural but, as of now, it's just a terrible excuse.

Well, he just trained nonstop and was sooo tired back in episode 85... It feels natural to me.

[Grimlock]

Well, he just trained nonstop and was sooo tired back in episode 85... It feels natural to me.

But this happened in Universe 6 saga, he had already slept there. Why?

[Lord Beerus]

Well, he just trained nonstop and was sooo tired back in episode 85... It feels natural to me.

But this happened in Universe 6 saga, he had already slept there. Why?

Because he felt like he needed to sleep.

[Ki Breaker]

Well, he just trained nonstop and was sooo tired back in episode 85... It feels natural to me.

But this happened in Universe 6 saga, he had already slept there. Why?

Because he felt like he needed to sleep.

It just occurred to me we are discussing why a character slept in once and why he didn't another time
He felt like it is okay enough for me
Not like it's going to change anything even if it's not right

[SansrivaaL]

Just the fact that Boo trained himself so hard that he slimmed down, ofc he'd be down for the count, he did something he naturally doesnt, more than enough reason to why he needs sleep.

[Psykomatik]

Well, he just trained nonstop and was sooo tired back in episode 85... It feels natural to me.

But this happened in Universe 6 saga, he had already slept there. Why?

Are we talking about Universe 6 saga or this one? I'm pretty sure we're talking about this one, because Boo only slept during the tournament, and woke up by episode 41. Not even a day...

[ArchedThunder]

Those two new characters have pretty complicated designs, hopefully that doesn't become an issue for the animators.

[HeroR]

Hmm. The expliantion of Majin Boo not waking up actually works very well and it doesn't contradict anything pre-established about the character. It still sucks that Majin Boo is out of the team, but the explanation is satisfactory enough, so I'll let it slide.

This is an example why you wait for an episode to air or least get more information before criticizing over "plot holes" or "contradictions". I mean, I know people have this need to react first, but criticisms can be saved until you get all the the information.

[Grimlock]

because Boo only slept during the tournament, and woke up by episode 41. Not even a day...

Not even a day, but the tournament didn't occur in seconds. He slept the whole tournament, which took hours. Either he will sleep for seconds or he will fall asleep for months.

[HeroR]

because Boo only slept during the tournament, and woke up by episode 41. Not even a day...

Not even a day, but the tournament didn't occur in seconds. He slept the whole tournament, which took hours. Either he will sleep for seconds or he will fall asleep for months.

There is nothing showing that the tournament took hours. You forget how fast all these are. Five minutes on Namek, anyone? Given how long the tournament is, chances are the entire tournament was only an hour since Whis thought 48 minutes for an one-on-one match was too long and there were only ten fighters for both U6 and U7.

[Grimlock]

Even if that were the case, Majin Buu falling asleep is still not convincing and does not feel natural once you put everything in context. As I said, either he will sleep for seconds or will sleep for months.

Universe 6 saga: He slept moments before the tournament and wouldn't wake up until its end, which took way more than seconds.

Universe Survival saga: He slept moments before the tournament and let's see if we'll see him pretty much woken up after its end (which if we do, then the bullshit will rise to unimaginable levels).

It's a convenient thing for us not being able to see him fighting and a bad thing to do with a character that spent years "off-screen" doing nothing important. And all of that on top of giving room to a villain who was brought back recently and has his character development already done (and didn't add anything cool/important to the lore while alive).

[alakazam^]

Thats speculation and Frieza's made it abundantly clear how evil he is, he's efinitely the most evil villain in the DB Franchise, turning him into a good guy would ruin him.

Actually, Piccolo Daimaou and Majin Boo are, as they are evil incarnate.

[HeroR]

Even if that were the case, Majin Buu falling asleep is still not convincing and does not feel natural once you put everything in context. As I said, either he will sleep for seconds or will sleep for months.

Universe 6 saga: He slept moments before the tournament and wouldn't wake up until its end, which took more than seconds.

Universe Survival saga: He slept moments before the tournament and let's see if we'll see him pretty much woken up after its end (which if we do, then the bullshit will rise to unimaginable levels).

It's a convenient thing for us not being able to see him fighting and a bad thing to do with a character that spent years "off-screen" doing nothing important. And all of that on top of giving room to a villain who was brought back recently and has his character development already done (and didn't add anything cool/important to the lore while alive).

Falling asleep doesn't feel natural? And are you purposely ignoring the "usually" part of the sentence, meaning that on average Buu may only sleep for a few seconds, but can sleep a bit longer time to time. That was seen during Resurrection 'F'.

Also, nice to know you've seen the saga so you know he has his character development already done. Also, the "didn't add anything cool/important to the lore while alive" is objectively false.

[Grimlock]

So wait, are you really expecting me to believe that in moments we need him the most, those will be the moments that "he can and will sleep a bit longer"? We needed him back in Universe 6 but he "slept a little bit longer" and now again, the Universe might be destroyed, we urgently need him but he decides to "sleep a little bit longer"? If you don't see what's wrong here, then my friend, I have bad news for you.

Oh, I totally forgot Movie 15, but you've just added more for this issue being even more terrible. He slept when he could give a hand against Freeza's soldiers. So wait, is he going to sleep whenever he could help the characters but that's okay and feels natural?

Are we really going to use the excuse of "Majin Buu was sleeping" whenever he doesn't show up or cannot help the cast!?

Yes, Freeza already has his character development done, he had his own saga for that. He didn't add anything valuable in Movie 15, he was brought back, changed the color of his final form and died right after. So yeah, not "objectively false", but a fact that summarizes his movie.

[MagmonKai]

Oh please Majin Buu falling asleep with excuse "he needs to sleep" is a half baked plot device to remove him from the tournament. I don't know why Toei won't have him participate in an actual tournament. My guess is he's too much of a haux character to do anything creative with besides annoy beerus. From this point on I'm going to ignore the character all together. What a waste, should have let him die with kid buu.