"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[The gr]

That Monaka gag is delightfully not positioned as a what-if, but, like all of Toyotaro's interstitial drawings, something that could conceivably have happened between chapters.

"O-oh no! He's completely weak, isn't he?!

Sure enough, I'll have to switch with Goku like I planned."

Guess he used the Time Ring two or three times to fix that one.

That's a nice way to patch up a hole.

What hole

volume 3 cover look nice ,I'm really interested on how volume 4 will look like

[Sandubadear]

What does the one with Old Kai say?

[Doctor.]

That Monaka gag is delightfully not positioned as a what-if, but, like all of Toyotaro's interstitial drawings, something that could conceivably have happened between chapters.

"O-oh no! He's completely weak, isn't he?!

Sure enough, I'll have to switch with Goku like I planned."

Guess he used the Time Ring two or three times to fix that one.

That's a nice way to patch up a hole.

What hole

volume 3 cover look nice ,I'm really interested on how volume 4 will look like

Why Zamasu picked Goku specifically if he wasn't even the strongest at the tournament. Unless something was stated in the most recent chapter which I haven't read, it should still be a hole.

[dbzfan7]

That's a nice way to patch up a hole.

What hole

volume 3 cover look nice ,I'm really interested on how volume 4 will look like

Why Zamasu picked Goku specifically if he wasn't even the strongest at the tournament. Unless something was stated in the most recent chapter which I haven't read, it should still be a hole.

I consider the bigger hole being nobody can somehow tell he's an amateur immediately.

[Doctor.]

I consider the bigger hole being nobody can somehow tell he's an amateur immediately.

I agree completely but that's an issue with Toriyama's writing and you're not allowed to talk smack about Toriyama unless you want the thought police to come and get you.

[The gr]

That's a nice way to patch up a hole.

What hole

volume 3 cover look nice ,I'm really interested on how volume 4 will look like

Why Zamasu picked Goku specifically if he wasn't even the strongest at the tournament. Unless something was stated in the most recent chapter which I haven't read, it should still be a hole.

He picked him because he was jealous the fact Goku got praised by the gods and he stop majin buu because he thought Beerus did that,is not hard to understand that

And maybe he never saw hit vs monaka even if he did,I'm sure he knows monaka is a joke because he is a figthing genius

[Doctor.]

What hole

volume 3 cover look nice ,I'm really interested on how volume 4 will look like

Why Zamasu picked Goku specifically if he wasn't even the strongest at the tournament. Unless something was stated in the most recent chapter which I haven't read, it should still be a hole.

He picked him because he was jealous the fact Goku got praised by the gods and he stop majin buu because he thought Beerus did that,is not hard to understand tha

Plenty of mortals get praised by the Gods. He watched the tournament and made his decision based on that. It'd be stupid to pick Goku considering he didn't even win.

[MaskedRider]

Why Zamasu picked Goku specifically if he wasn't even the strongest at the tournament. Unless something was stated in the most recent chapter which I haven't read, it should still be a hole.

He picked him because he was jealous the fact Goku got praised by the gods and he stop majin buu because he thought Beerus did that,is not hard to understand tha

Plenty of mortals get praised by the Gods. He watched the tournament and made his decision based on that. It'd be stupid to pick Goku considering he didn't even win.

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu hates

[Doctor.]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

[The gr]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

Well Goku is friend with the ultimate chibi God, that could be another reason Why zamas choose Goku or that goku is the godtuber with the most subscribers

[Cipher]

Full amateur-hour (but accurate) translations ahoy.

And:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Link: https://twitter.com/suisoukiraki

Page 1: Toriayama-Sensei's Personal Corrections 1

"Above is Zamasu's first appearance.
I received some corrections regarding the hair and the width of the eyes.
In the storyboards I sent Toriyama-sensei ...
I'd regrettably drawn it like this."

Page 2: Toriayama-Sensei's Personal Corrections 2

"I'd drawn Kaioshin in this style, being surprised by Zamasu's remarks, but received the correction, 'Please let him have a little more dignity.'
That became a valuable reference in drawing Zamasu and Kaioshin moving forward. Thank you, Toriyama-sensei."

Page 3:

"I was still sealed in the sword and got killed!"

Page 4:

"As you wished, you and Monaka have switched bodies." (Backwards speech with standard Japanese translation)

"Darn! He's completely weak, isn't he?
Sure enough, I'll have to switch with Goku like I planned!!"

[dbzfan7]

I consider the bigger hole being nobody can somehow tell he's an amateur immediately.

I agree completely but that's an issue with Toriyama's writing and you're not allowed to talk smack about Toriyama unless you want the thought police to come and get you.

I mean it always bugged me no matter the version. The instant he takes a stance is all an expert martial artist needs to know before going "Oh yeah amateur". Hell even bad stances are commented on being actually good somehow. Like how Goku's wide open stance, was commented as actually having no openings at all, while the less experienced thought he was being stupid.

[Meshack]

From Dragon Ball Super Vol. 3:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Gosen? Zosama? O.o

It's actually Gosenzo-sama and it's another way of addressing Elder Kaioshin. It means something like "Ancestor".

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Zamasu probably wished to be the strongest person of the Universe or have the body of the winner of Champa's tournament. He became Monaka. Genius!

Gosenzo-sama means ancestor but it's written separately, meaning Gosen and Zosama are the names of the 6th Universe's attendant and the Old Kaioshin

[Cipher]

Missed the window on editing my previous post by literally less than a minute. Herms must've been prepping his translations of the interstitial pages on Twitter right as I was doing mine. His are out now. Basically the same, but way smoother than my post above: https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/870475983828115457

[emperior]

So it looks like Toriyama himself redrew Zamasu, and Toyotaro used it as a reference for later drawings. That's why Zamasu looks good in the manga. Unfortunately Toriyama didn't correct Toyo's Goku Black, even though he didn't exactly follow Toriyama's design for his face and hair. Oh well, seems like Toriyama was fine with eyeliner Goku Black and didn't notice Toyotaro didn't closely follow the design for both base and Rosè hair.

[HECTOR4]

Full amateur-hour (but accurate) translations ahoy.

And:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Link: https://twitter.com/suisoukiraki

Page 1: Toriayama-Sensei's Personal Corrections 1

"Above is Zamasu's first appearance.
I received some corrections regarding the hair and the width of the eyes.
In the storyboards I sent Toriyama-sensei ...
I'd regrettably drawn it like this."

Page 2: Toriayama-Sensei's Personal Corrections 2

"I'd drawn Kaioshin in this style, being surprised by Zamasu's remarks, but received the correction, 'Please let him have a little more dignity.'
That became a valuable reference in drawing Zamasu and Kaioshin moving forward. Thank you, Toriyama-sensei."

Page 3:

"I was still sealed in the sword and got killed!"

Page 4:

"As you wished, you and Monaka have switched bodies." (Backwards speech with standard Japanese translation)

"Darn! He's completely weak, isn't he?
Sure enough, I'll have to switch with Goku like I planned!!"

From Dragon Ball Super Vol. 3:
[spoiler][/spoiler]
Gosen? Zosama? O.o

It's actually Gosenzo-sama and it's another way of addressing Elder Kaioshin. It means something like "Ancestor".

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Zamasu probably wished to be the strongest person of the Universe or have the body of the winner of Champa's tournament. He became Monaka. Genius!

Thank you ^^

[Basako]

Nice in between story ilustrations.

Thank god Toriyama corrected Zamasu's eyes, his first version looked much less intimidating, really bad. It's good he is there to correct things, this is further confirmation everything in the manga has his approval or, in the other case, correction.

We all assumed the future elder died when the sword was destroyed, but it's nice to see it.

The last is so funny, I remember I read this idea in the forums too, as a what if. But it obviously didn't happen, it's just a gag out of continuity. Zamasu didn't buy Monaka was the strongest, I bet Goku is the only one that still believes that. He could have had some doubt about Hit or Vegeta at most. But neither of those were shown as stronger than Goku and he also had heard about him defeating Majin Boo, although this is not really true, but that's what he was told. He also saw how Goku friended Zeno, I bet this made him jealous or something, a ningen, how dare he. He had enough reasons to choose him.

The Kaioshins relaxing break is nice too!

[OLKv3]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

In the manga, Goku pretty much dominated Hit the moment he started using God ki. Not to mention before this he heard about how great Goku is from Shin, and then asked Zuno all there is to know about Goku, learning how he rapidly increases his power. The choice was clear.

[Chelentano]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

In the manga, Goku pretty much dominated Hit the moment he started using God ki. Not to mention before this he heard about how great Goku is from Shin, and then asked Zuno all there is to know about Goku, learning how he rapidly increases his power. The choice was clear.

Yeah, I feel like people keep forgetting this kind of details in their complaints.

[Doctor.]

But thats thinking in terms of a mortal, which Zamasu isn't

It just seems completely arbitrary to pick Goku over anyone else in the tournament, since Goku didn't even perform that well in it. So I like that Toyotaro closed that hole off with that little gag-panel.

In the manga, Goku pretty much dominated Hit the moment he started using God ki. Not to mention before this he heard about how great Goku is from Shin, and then asked Zuno all there is to know about Goku, learning how he rapidly increases his power. The choice was clear.

And yet Toyotaro still felt the need to draw Zamasu taking Monaka's body, so he's aware the choice didn't make much sense.