Season 3- Delayed and more

[Kendamu]

What?! You mean millions of fans will have to wait a little longer to see and hear "pop goes the weasel" in psuedo-remastered wannabe-high def?!

Nooooooo!

[raz1337]

September 18th? That's my 21st birthday! Too bad I'm not planning on buying it.

[Mystery Person X]

You know, authoring the DVDs themselves actually does take time and effort.

Uh... I think we can determine that is not the case, based on the "effort" they've put into their previous releases.

Um, no. Authoring DVDs takes time and effort. Always. This is a valid possibility for the delay.

[Friezafan120]

Yeah, a new Freeza voice would be nice...

Funimation got it right with King Cold, though.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Yeah, a new Freeza voice would be nice...

Funimation got it right with King Cold, though.

If all else fails, make the character British.

King Cold had an interesting voice, to say the least.

[Tsukento]

and the fact it would just screw up the whole consistency

DOES NOT COMPUTE!

FUNimation's never been consistant with Dragon Ball Z. We had one movie with the Spanish audio included, several movies using in-house music while other movies had bands hired. Then they had the Ultimate Uncut Editions and canned those for these.

...

I'VE GOT IT! THEY'RE GONNA DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN! CAN THE SEASON SETS AND REPLACE WITH BLU-RAY SEASON SETS!

"Dragon Ball Z: The way it was REALLY meant to be seen...HONEST THIS TIME!"

[b_boult]

Yeah, a new Freeza voice would be nice...

Funimation got it right with King Cold, though.

If all else fails, make the character British.

King Cold had an interesting voice, to say the least.

King Cold is the exception probably. As a Brit I cannot begin to tell you how bad Dameon Clarke's Cell sounds .

[ect5150]

You know, authoring the DVDs themselves actually does take time and effort.

Uh... I think we can determine that is not the case, based on the "effort" they've put into their previous releases.

Um, no. Authoring DVDs takes time and effort. Always. This is a valid possibility for the delay.

Um, no. Authoring DVDs takes time and effort for quick, quick releases. Season 2 was released at the beginning of June? and Season 3 is delayed until mid September? 3.5 months is more than plenty time for five or six discs. There are several people on these very boards that could do it in far less time by themselves assuming it was our full-time job. I seem to recall Toei cranking out 3 or 4 discs every month with NO delays for the DBox singles.

The delays are probably management decisions, not that the tech people can't get it together over there in time for production.

[Castor Troy]

Since funi never puts the previews anymore and now that the show has been redubbed, we'll never see "Krillin's in da house" ever again.

[Mystery Person X]

Um, no. Authoring DVDs takes time and effort for quick, quick releases. Season 2 was released at the beginning of June? and Season 3 is delayed until mid September? 3.5 months is more than plenty time for five or six discs.

And the dozens of others that FUNi have on their schedule? They're releasing a lot of series aside from DBZ (and most of those come out monthly, and they're working on the Slayers box sets that are theoretically meant to have a fairly rapid release schedule too).

If there's one mistake noticed in QC it can set the entire process back by weeks. It happened recently with Slayers (confirmed by a FUNi rep at the Anime on DVD forum). Not to mention that they then need to find a new place for it in their busy release schedule.

The delays are probably management decisions, not that the tech people can't get it together over there in time for production.

I'm not saying that's the reason, but there's obviously a reason other than "management decided it was a good idea to delay the release just because", and technical issues seem like as good an explanation as anyway.

In any case, my main point is that brushing off the authoring as a trivial part of the production process is nonsense. As we all seem to agree, authoring does take time and effort.

[Super Sonic]

Yeah, a new Freeza voice would be nice...

Funimation got it right with King Cold, though.

If all else fails, make the character British.

King Cold had an interesting voice, to say the least.

King Cold is the exception probably. As a Brit I cannot begin to tell you how bad Dameon Clarke's Cell sounds .

Sounded more "proper gentleman" than British to me.

But yeah, I remember a lot of guys saying they thought whoever did King Cold should've done Frieza.

Though I'm now used to Ms. Young's Frieza (though her Baba is better IMO), I still sometimes wonder what it would've been if say Mr. Sabat did him as an evil British version of his Ayame Sohma voice.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Though I'm now used to Ms. Young's Freeza (though her Baba is better IMO), I still sometimes wonder what it would've been if say Mr. Sabat did him as an evil British version of his Ayame Sohma voice.

The problem is that in season three, FUNimation's new voice actors were just trying to imitate the original Ocean actors (not that any of them did a good job of imitating them at all but they tried to do so nonetheless). Chris Sabat voicing Freeza wouldn't have made any sense when you take into account what they were trying to do.

Therefore, the real problem lies with the original decision way back in 1997 to cast Pauline Newstone as Freeza when it was being dubbed by the Ocean group. Newstone is a fine actress, but whoever decided to cast her as Freeza was high on something.

I've also long suspected that FUNimation has always thought of Freeza as a woman. I mean, considering the voice they gave him as well as the stupid flirty dialogue with Goku and others, there's just no way that they think of him as being male. It's funny though, because they would insist on having other characters refer to Freeza as a "he" but considering how they treated the character, it almost seemed like a really bad joke, like they were trying to avoid pointing out the fact that he was a transexual or something.

I mean, I've seen most of the Japanese version, but having seen the dub first back in the day, I still have a tough time thinking of Freeza as a male at times.

[ect5150]

If there's one mistake noticed in QC it can set the entire process back by weeks.

This gave me quite a good laugh (FUNI has quality control?... seriously, you have seen the comparison shots, right?).

Let me be clearer when I say this. Yes, they have more to release than DBZ, but they also 'should' have more than one person doing all of them. The point I'm trying to be clearer on is that other companies could get them authored in that amount of time, no problem. After all, the season sets are a cookie cutter format. With the exception of the actual art in the menus, what really changes? This helps speeds the processes.

In short, I don't buy that the discs just aren't authored. Maybe the DVD pressing facility is pressing to capacity or something like that, but getting the discs authored I just don't buy (which is the specific argument you made earlier). And when I refer to management decision, I'm not referring to some MBA delaying it because they thought it was a 'good idea' ... maybe the pressing facility was going to lower their price to FUNI at a certain date, and if they delayed the release by however long, they could take advantage of it.

confirmed by a FUNi rep at the Anime on DVD forum

Believe what you want to when someone from any company tells you something. Personally I look for facts/evidence when the company has a past history of talking out of both sides of their mouth (and FUNI fits that category for me).

[Bardock the Mexican]

There is a fairly disturbing pattern we have here. That is this: Funimation says with the Ultimate Uncuts that they will be "like it was meant to be seen" and left us running at the cry of wolf that obviously wasn't. Now as the jaded, very hard to impress, quick-to-turn-ugly-mob kind of fandom we are having been fed BS once. The bottom line is, if they want to be taken seriously then they will have to take the fandom seriously. I mean take back the quip about how a nine year old is born every minute for starters, at least POR FAVOR.

[Thanos6]

Clarke as Perfect Cell sounded sort of like a German/British hybrid to me. I still consider him the best voice for Cell in any version, including the original.

[Friezafan120]

Clarke as Perfect Cell sounded sort of like a German/British hybrid to me. I still consider him the best voice for Cell in any version, including the original.

I agree. His voices for his first and perfect froms were especially good.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Clarke as Perfect Cell sounded sort of like a German/British hybrid to me. I still consider him the best voice for Cell in any version, including the original.

I agree. His voices for his first and perfect froms were especially good.

Clarke gave the first and perfect forms great voices, for sure.

It's unfortunate that the second form voice was horrendous though.

[Conan the SSJ]

Clarke gave the first and perfect forms great voices, for sure.

Mike McFarland did the first form.

[Dark Vegeta-Sama]

Clarke gave the first and perfect forms great voices, for sure.

Mike McFarland did the first form.

Are you sure? I've never heard anything about that.

[Conan the SSJ]

Are you sure? I've never heard anything about that.

Not 100% sure, but the first form of Imperfect Cell sounds identicle to McFarland's Tamborine. I may be wrong, as I can't find any credited evidence.