"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[ArchedThunder]

Yeah these are probably fake, the tournament is a top, where in the world would they put a curtain there to open? I call BS.

Also Title Undecided is an awful title for an episode!
=P

[Kishido]

Yeah these are probably fake, the tournament is a top, where in the world would they put a curtain there to open? I call BS.

Also Title Undecided is an awful title for an episode!
=P

Frieza is undecided if he should return into U7 team again so we can drop Yamcha again

[Hellspawn28]

Anyway, according to the leaks the Tournament will start on episode 97.
So they've got three episodes to show ALL the fighters. Do you think that's possible? I don't.

So far in 17 episodes they've only shown:

One fighter from U2.
Four fighters from U3 (Nigrisshi, Narirama plus the other two Nigrisshi was talking about).
Two fighters from U4 (Damon and Ganosu).
Two new fighters from U6 (Kale and Caulifla).
Three fighters from U9 (Basil, Lavenda and Bergamo).
One figher from U10 (Murichim).
Four fighters from U11 (Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral).

Only 17 new characters in 17 episodes.

They will probably show off all the new characters when the Tournament starts. It's better to save the best for last.

[Super_Divine_Genki]

Because it was really pathetic. He died without even fighting the Saiyans and Krillin killed five of those Saibermen on his own and Piccolo easily one-shotted the last one. Also, ever heard of black comedy?

I don't know what black comedy is. Was that the intent of the DBZ writers back in 1989-1990?

Yamucha took Kuririn's spot because of the situation with him potentially getting killed (for the second time). Yamucha made an honorable move for the well-being of his friend, and he technically defeated that Saibaman. That was the first time that the Z-senshi had experienced a surprise kamikaze attack... I think... ?

Recoome got killed when he wasn't even conscious and before then he wrecked everyone.

It was still played for comedy, in a subtle way. Plus, we'd seen Recoome "deconstructed" as the battle was going on. Look at him before and after battle.

Anyway, I was just curious about why the meme caught hot. I still don't get it.

[Kishido]

Anyway, according to the leaks the Tournament will start on episode 97.
So they've got three episodes to show ALL the fighters. Do you think that's possible? I don't.

So far in 17 episodes they've only shown:

One fighter from U2.
Four fighters from U3 (Nigrisshi, Narirama plus the other two Nigrisshi was talking about).
Two fighters from U4 (Damon and Ganosu).
Two new fighters from U6 (Kale and Caulifla).
Three fighters from U9 (Basil, Lavenda and Bergamo).
One figher from U10 (Murichim).
Four fighters from U11 (Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo and Kahseral).

Only 17 new characters in 17 episodes.

They will probably show off all the new characters when the Tournament starts. It's better to save the best for last.

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Yeah... I think only the really important figthers got some spotlight... The rest will be shown but without heavy pre story... It would be too much after all.

Same as in U10 9 of characters are shown cloaked all the time... Most likely "fodder"

[Totamo]

So the initial leaks are most certainly bullshit? Good.

Now we can carry on with out lives as usual until we go into another panic from another set of initial episode titles and staff listing leaks.

You know, you are one of my favorite members here.

[precita]

The meme will never die since it's been with him since the start. Yamcha has jobbed in every single major fight that he has ever been in besides the one in Baba's tournament where he would have lost that one as well without outside interference.

I seriously don't understand why people like his character

You don't know why people like an entertaining character who has been around from the start and has some entertaining fights even though he loses?

Piccolo loses every fight after Radditz too (and even then he needed Goku to hold him back), so what difference does it make? None of the fighters have good track records in DBZ.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm starting to like Quitela as a character. I like that he is a very sneaky and is probably going to trick Sidra to team up with him just to have Sidra be kick out of the Tournament. The less universes, the more of a chance that he can win. Having agents going under cover him to get information on the Universes is a really cool idea in my opinion.

[kinisking]

Are we still getting summaries or is this it ?

[Totamo]

Because it was really pathetic. He died without even fighting the Saiyans and Krillin killed five of those Saibermen on his own and Piccolo easily one-shotted the last one. Also, ever heard of black comedy?

I don't know what black comedy is. Was that the intent of the DBZ writers back in 1989-1990?

Yamucha took Kuririn's spot because of the situation with him potentially getting killed (for the second time). Yamucha made an honorable move for the well-being of his friend, and he technically defeated that Saibaman. That was the first time that the Z-senshi had experienced a surprise kamikaze attack... I think... ?

Recoome got killed when he wasn't even conscious and before then he wrecked everyone.

It was still played for comedy, in a subtle way. Plus, we'd seen Recoome "deconstructed" as the battle was going on. Look at him before and after battle.

Anyway, I was just curious about why the meme caught hot. I still don't get it.

Yamcha's is seen as a joke because of weak raditz was. He was so weak they could clone and unlike everyone else he didn't go down fighting.

[Lord Beerus]

Are we still getting summaries or is this it ?

I'm sure summaries will come out later. Just not as soon as you hope.

[precita]

It's rather obvious when Toriyama wrote Yamcha's death back in the 80's he did it for drama, and had no idea it would become an internet meme by fans when the internet would not even exist for another decade. The fact that Krillin, Bulma, Tenshinhan, etc. were all horrified/angry when it happened, Bulma burst into tears, and then Goku checks Yamcha's pulse when he sees his body when he comes back...says it in itself.

[HeroR]

Because it was really pathetic. He died without even fighting the Saiyans and Krillin killed five of those Saibermen on his own and Piccolo easily one-shotted the last one. Also, ever heard of black comedy?

I don't know what black comedy is. Was that the intent of the DBZ writers back in 1989-1990?

Yamucha took Kuririn's spot because of the situation with him potentially getting killed (for the second time). Yamucha made an honorable move for the well-being of his friend, and he technically defeated that Saibaman. That was the first time that the Z-senshi had experienced a surprise kamikaze attack... I think... ?

Recoome got killed when he wasn't even conscious and before then he wrecked everyone.

It was still played for comedy, in a subtle way. Plus, we'd seen Recoome "deconstructed" as the battle was going on. Look at him before and after battle.

Anyway, I was just curious about why the meme caught hot. I still don't get it.

Black Comedy: A comic style that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo.

Yamcha dying to a weak Saibaman before he does anything useful is funny. It really doesn't matter why he fought the Saiberman, he still died to a mook that Krillin, the resident butt monkey, killed five of with one energy blast. And he may have defeated the Saibaman, but he dropped his guard and got killed. The same happened to Goku when he got laser by Sorbet, which is also considered humorous.

Recoome's defeat was played for laughs. His actual death wasn't since it was considered low for Vegeta to kill people who couldn't defend themselves. And Recoome took blows and still kicked everyone's ass like it was a game. He was basically Nappa.

[HeroR]

The meme will never die since it's been with him since the start. Yamcha has jobbed in every single major fight that he has ever been in besides the one in Baba's tournament where he would have lost that one as well without outside interference.

I seriously don't understand why people like his character

You don't know why people like an entertaining character who has been around from the start and has some entertaining fights even though he loses?

Piccolo loses every fight after Radditz too (and even then he needed Goku to hold him back), so what difference does it make? None of the fighters have good track records in DBZ.

He usually lose to the main villain or at least the dragon, not the fodder like Yamcha.

[precita]

Black Comedy: A comic style that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo.

Yamcha dying to a weak Saibaman before he does anything useful is funny. It really doesn't matter why he fought the Saiberman, he still died to a mook that Krillin, the resident butt monkey, killed five of with one energy blast. And he may have defeated the Saibaman, but he dropped his guard and got killed. The same happened to Goku when he got laser by Sorbet, which is also considered humorous

You oddly sound like you have no idea how that scene played out in the anime/manga. Nothing about it was treated as "funny," it was treated as a shocking drama moment. It was also the first wake up call to the main characters that they were seriously outclassed for the Saiyans and set up the massacre of all of them that would follow.

Read my other post above, what did the other main characters do when Yamcha died? They went ballistic and showed horror and disgust. They didn't all stand around smiling. This isn't neogaf, HeroR, people here actually know about Dragonball.

[HeroR]

You oddly sound like you have no idea how that scene played out in the anime/manga. Nothing about it was treated as "funny," it was treated as a shocking drama moment. It was also the first wake up call to the main characters that they were seriously outclassed for the Saiyans and set up the massacre of all of them that would follow.

Read my other post above, what did the other main characters do when Yamcha died? They went ballistic and showed horror and disgust. They didn't all stand around smiling. This isn't neogaf, HeroR, people here actually know about Dragonball.

Just because something is played for drama, doesn't mean it can't be funny, hence black comedy. Or if you want to used a Tv trope, it's called Narm: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Narm

It was a pathetic death that was played for drama, but came out as humorous to a lot of people. How the character react, doesn't matter.

Oh I know Dragon Ball. But apparently you don't understand or know the Dragon Ball's audience that well.

[Asura]

Black Comedy: A comic style that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo.

No, no, no, no. It's dark comedy.
Black comedy is something entirely different

[HeroR]

Black Comedy: A comic style that makes light of subject matter that is generally considered taboo.

No, no, no, no. It's dark comedy.
Black comedy is something entirely different

They can be used interchangeable.

[precita]

You oddly sound like you have no idea how that scene played out in the anime/manga. Nothing about it was treated as "funny," it was treated as a shocking drama moment. It was also the first wake up call to the main characters that they were seriously outclassed for the Saiyans and set up the massacre of all of them that would follow.

Read my other post above, what did the other main characters do when Yamcha died? They went ballistic and showed horror and disgust. They didn't all stand around smiling. This isn't neogaf, HeroR, people here actually know about Dragonball.

Just because something is played for drama, doesn't mean it can't be funny, hence black comedy. Or if you want to used a Tv trope, it's called Narm: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Narm

It was a pathetic death that was played for drama, but came out as humorous to a lot of people. How the character react, doesn't matter.

When I was a kid and saw the death for the first time, I didn't think it was funny. In fact Yamcha's death pose did not become a meme until like 15 years after that episode aired. Had Yamcha been the only character who died, and Tenshihan and Piccolo at least survived long enough for Goku to show up, it would have been a different story. And as I said, what did you think Toriyama's intentions were? He obviously wrote in a first early death to raise the stakes for that arc and show what a serious threat the Saiyans were and set the mood for the rest of the fight.

You can literally right now go to youtube and watch how that death scene played out in the original, nothing about it seemed, "Oh look that character died," but rather, "What, the main characters are dying? Is everyone else going to survive?"

[Kishido]

https://twitter.com/EmperorBigD/status/ ... 7113109510

https://twitter.com/EmperorBigD/status/ ... 4875244546

Just awesome...