"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Zamasu55 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:31 am

The leaks were fake because if something as shocking as Frieza switching to U4 was going to happen, the titles would have certainly mentioned it.
Now I'm just focused on the new fighters, even though I'm disappointed nine guys from U10 will not be revealed.

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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:32 am

Zamasu55 wrote:The leaks were fake because if something as shocking as Frieza switching to U4 was going to happen, the titles would have certainly mentioned it.
Now I'm just focused on the new fighters, even though I'm disappointed nine guys from U10 will not be revealed.
You know that none of the titles, including the "fake" ones, mention Freeza going to U4 right? That's in the summary, not the title.
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Post by HeroR » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:40 am

Geekdom101 wrote: It could be... that the REASON the first video has more views, is because it went up a day before.

So if the vid did 10,000 views, nobody would bat an eye, but because it did more views, it makes it worse and I should be attacked for it? Views are irrelevant to the point. Don't turn this into another "greedy Youtuber" nonsensical argument. If the Animedia Titles don't match up, I will do an update video and correct myself as I ALWAYS have. I am in complete agreement with you about me jumping the gun (despite all of the double checking and conversations I had prior to and holding off), but that doesn't mean I have to delete the video because you told me to. The point of an update video is to UPDATE people, and one WILL be produced once everything comes out, I assure you.
I would care even if it did only 10,000 views since that is still people spreading information, so you shouldn't speak in generalizations. And I haven't attacked you. I have remained quite civil and the most I have expressed is disappointment.

When have 'I' said anything about "greedy Youtuber". How you make money is none of my business. I am expressing concern about you're keeping up a video that has misinformation on it. At this point, the titles and staff being different is a giant red flag, even if the summaries somehow ends up being the same.

I said, take it down, not delete it from existence. If it is true, you can always put it up back up without any problems and even put in an edit about what happened. This is actually what most video game sites do like Gamexplain.

I am not telling you to do anything. I am suggesting that you take it down, not for me because I don't even go to you for Dragon Ball new. I am telling you this for your reputation since they are fans out there who do trust you and count on you for the news. Whether you take my advise or not, that's on you. It isn't like anything I say will effect your Youtube views. I have already stated why I think the video should be taken down until the leaks are confirmed or debunked.

Also, the reason why it appears I am dropping down your throat over this is because one of the things I truly appreciated is that you didn't jump on the Freeza news when it was still a rumor. You waited. You were the last person to report it, but you waited until you knew for certain it was true. That is a mark of someone who understand the importance of getting the right information, even if it is late. Which is why this truly shocked me, along with other Youtube channels who usually wait but all reported the leak.
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You know that none of the titles, including the "fake" ones, mention Freeza going to U4 right? That's in the summary, not the title.
While true, the title suggests that something would happened to the team that makes it incomplete again. Just like Episode 92.
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Post by Kanassa » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:45 am

Is this really the thread to be talking about some random dude on the internet doing something stupid? Fuck, we have a a 'Opinion on DB Youtubers' thread this could easily be taken to.
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Post by Mewzard » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:49 am

Even if the title differences weren't an issue, I don't believe the massive differences in staff between the two summaries are particularly supportive of the supposed leak's legitimacy.

It wouldn't be the first time someone's put up false rumors on the internet, or even used some real leaked info to create believable false rumors (if we want to focus on Episode 97's similar titles).
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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:50 am

HeroR wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote: It could be... that the REASON the first video has more views, is because it went up a day before.

So if the vid did 10,000 views, nobody would bat an eye, but because it did more views, it makes it worse and I should be attacked for it? Views are irrelevant to the point. Don't turn this into another "greedy Youtuber" nonsensical argument. If the Animedia Titles don't match up, I will do an update video and correct myself as I ALWAYS have. I am in complete agreement with you about me jumping the gun (despite all of the double checking and conversations I had prior to and holding off), but that doesn't mean I have to delete the video because you told me to. The point of an update video is to UPDATE people, and one WILL be produced once everything comes out, I assure you.
I would care even if it did only 10,000 views since that is still people spreading information, so you shouldn't speak in generalizations. And I haven't attacked you. I have remained quite civil and the most I have expressed is disappointment.

When have 'I' said anything about "greedy Youtuber". How you make money is none of my business. I am expressing concern about you're keeping up a video that has misinformation on it. At this point, the titles and staff being different is a giant red flag, even if the summaries somehow ends up being the same.

I said, take it down, not delete it from existence. If it is true, you can always put it up back up without any problems and even put in an edit about what happened. This is actually what most video game sites do like Gamexplain.

I am not telling you to do anything. I am suggesting that you take it down, not for me because I don't even go to you for Dragon Ball new. I am telling you this for your reputation since they are fans out there who do trust you and count on you for the news. Whether you take my advise or not, that's on you. It isn't like anything I say will effect your Youtube views. I have already stated why I think the video should be taken down until the leaks are confirmed or debunked.
I respect your opinion, legitimately I do, and I respect what you stand for because we do stand for the same thing. You have to understand the things that I deal with from people on a DAILY basis. I uploaded that video because I got literally HUNDREDS of tweets of people asking me to comment on it. Taking the video down NOW will lead to those same hundreds asking questions about where the video is and they will most likely search for some of the OTHER Tubers who mentioned the leaks. I am very aware of the red flags. I've spoken to Terez, Ajay, and other people from this forum and from r/dbz literally all day from 8am until now. I've gotten LEGITIMATE ANXIETY from this. This is BOTHERING ME TREMENDOUSLY (ask them if you don't believe me). My peers and my coworkers are telling me not to let it bother me, but it is.

I've made 4 mistakes related to this in 2 years. That's 4 more than I wanted to make. Each and every time it bothers me and I take it way too close to the heart. So I do respect and agree with you... but I am choosing THIS TIME to wait vs do something rash. That is all.
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Post by Pannaliciour » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:58 am

Who gives a crap about misinformation people all make mistakes. Lets enjoy the show en the youtube reviews!

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:02 am

Geekdom101 wrote:
I respect your opinion, legitimately I do, and I respect what you stand for because we do stand for the same thing. You have to understand the things that I deal with from people on a DAILY basis. I uploaded that video because I got literally HUNDREDS of tweets of people asking me to comment on it. Taking the video down NOW will lead to those same hundreds asking questions about where the video is and they will most likely search for some of the OTHER Tubers who mentioned the leaks. I am very aware of the red flags. I've spoken to Terez, Ajay, and other people from this forum and from r/dbz literally all day from 8am until now. I've gotten LEGITIMATE ANXIETY from this. This is BOTHERING ME TREMENDOUSLY (ask them if you don't believe me). My peers and my coworkers are telling me not to let it bother me, but it is.

I've made 4 mistakes related to this in 2 years. That's 4 more than I wanted to make. Each and every time it bothers me and I take it way too close to the heart. So I do respect and agree with you... but I am choosing THIS TIME to wait vs do something rash. That is all.
This will be the last time I comment on this since we are getting off-topic. I put this in my edit and I wanted to repost it here.

The reason why it appears I am dropping down your throat over this is because one of the things I truly appreciated is that you didn't jump on the Freeza news when it was still a rumor. You waited. You were the last person to report it, but you waited until you knew for certain it was true. That is a mark of someone who understand the importance of getting the right information, even if it is late. Which is why this truly shocked me, along with other Youtube channels who usually wait but all reported the leak.

And I am truly sorry that you have gotten so much flake over spoilers. This is going too far for people to harass and attack you. I know you try your best and I still think you should have sat on this like you did with Freeza and told the people asking you on Tweeter why you were waiting. I truly believed that people will wait for late, but right information over fast and wrong information. Maybe it's naive, but that are my feelings on the subject.

And, that is fair even if I personally don't agree.
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Post by Gog » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:06 am

If every Goku and Freeza interaction from this point on is on the same level of quality as it was when Goku went to see Freeza in hell then I want Vegeta to go away, forever.

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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:10 am

HeroR wrote:
Geekdom101 wrote:
I respect your opinion, legitimately I do, and I respect what you stand for because we do stand for the same thing. You have to understand the things that I deal with from people on a DAILY basis. I uploaded that video because I got literally HUNDREDS of tweets of people asking me to comment on it. Taking the video down NOW will lead to those same hundreds asking questions about where the video is and they will most likely search for some of the OTHER Tubers who mentioned the leaks. I am very aware of the red flags. I've spoken to Terez, Ajay, and other people from this forum and from r/dbz literally all day from 8am until now. I've gotten LEGITIMATE ANXIETY from this. This is BOTHERING ME TREMENDOUSLY (ask them if you don't believe me). My peers and my coworkers are telling me not to let it bother me, but it is.

I've made 4 mistakes related to this in 2 years. That's 4 more than I wanted to make. Each and every time it bothers me and I take it way too close to the heart. So I do respect and agree with you... but I am choosing THIS TIME to wait vs do something rash. That is all.
This will be the last time I comment on this since we are getting off-topic. I put this in my edit and I wanted to repost it here.

The reason why it appears I am dropping down your throat over this is because one of the things I truly appreciated is that you didn't jump on the Freeza news when it was still a rumor. You waited. You were the last person to report it, but you waited until you knew for certain it was true. That is a mark of someone who understand the importance of getting the right information, even if it is late. Which is why this truly shocked me, along with other Youtube channels who usually wait but all reported the leak.

And I am truly sorry that you have gotten so much flake over spoilers. This is going too far for people to harass and attack you. I know you try your best and I still think you should have sat on this like you did with Freeza and told the people asking you on Tweeter why you were waiting. I truly believed that people will wait for late, but right information over fast and wrong information. Maybe it's naive, but that are my feelings on the subject.

And, that is fair even if I personally don't agree.
Trust me, I'm DESTROYED over this and everything you just wrote (specially about the Freeza thing) I've thought about. Trust me. The issue why people didn't wait this time is because of all the people, not JUST Youtube people, people from Reddit, VERY SMART fans believed it. VERY smart people.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:23 am

I was foolish to ever thing misinformation in this fandom would ever stop, but the evidence is too overwhelming here why people are still trying to justify these I don't know. The staff were completely wrong, #95 was completely wrong, #96 title was wrong, #97 wasn't exactly hard to guess...
Gog wrote:If every Goku and Freeza interaction from this point on is on the same level of quality as it was when Goku went to see Freeza in hell then I want Vegeta to go away, forever.
I'm curious to see how Vegeta and Freeza interact actually. I got a feeling Vegeta may just ignore he's there.

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Post by Gog » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:34 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I'm curious to see how Vegeta and Freeza interact actually. I got a feeling Vegeta may just ignore he's there.
I imagine he'd be shocked to see Freeza alive and kicking at first. And honestly, I can see him ignoring him, and still being suspicious of his activities.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:38 am

Gog wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I'm curious to see how Vegeta and Freeza interact actually. I got a feeling Vegeta may just ignore he's there.
I imagine he'd be shocked to see Freeza alive and kicking at first. And honestly, I can see him ignoring him, and still being suspicious of his activities.
At best I can see Vegeta mocking him with a lil threat, ah the interactions, I want more Goku and Freeza time as well, its rare to see Goku serious all the time against someone.

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Post by Basako » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:45 am

Geekdom101 wrote: Trust me, I'm DESTROYED over this and everything you just wrote (specially about the Freeza thing) I've thought about. Trust me. The issue why people didn't wait this time is because of all the people, not JUST Youtube people, people from Reddit, VERY SMART fans believed it. VERY smart people.
Man, don't feel that bad, mistakes happen and people react like crazy. It's really not that bad, everyone knows you try to publish true information only, but nobody is perfect.

Now it's obvious that it was better to wait, but not that much two days ago, with the preceding of similar leaks becoming true short ago. I think you made the right call making an update, waiting for the real sumaries. In the end, it's your channel and you make the calls. If anybody thinks that can do it better, well, they can create their own Youtube channel and make it as they think it's best.
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Post by Geekdom101 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:49 am

Animedia has ZERO on Dragon Ball Super. Not even a section.

This is VERY bizarre. I'm not sure if I should record a bonus video or if I should wait until tomorrow's Jump preview.
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SansrivaaL wrote:
Gog wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I'm curious to see how Vegeta and Freeza interact actually. I got a feeling Vegeta may just ignore he's there.
I imagine he'd be shocked to see Freeza alive and kicking at first. And honestly, I can see him ignoring him, and still being suspicious of his activities.
At best I can see Vegeta mocking him with a lil threat, ah the interactions, I want more Goku and Freeza time as well, its rare to see Goku serious all the time against someone.
I wonder how Freeza'll react to more Saiyans in Pan & Bra. But tensions already there from NEP Freeza is training dangerously and the episode after slaughtering & Goku can't stop him. Should be interesting few episodes.

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SansrivaaL wrote:
Gog wrote:
I imagine he'd be shocked to see Freeza alive and kicking at first. And honestly, I can see him ignoring him, and still being suspicious of his activities.
At best I can see Vegeta mocking him with a lil threat, ah the interactions, I want more Goku and Freeza time as well, its rare to see Goku serious all the time against someone.
I wonder how Freeza'll react to more Saiyans in Pan & Bra. But tensions already there from NEP Freeza is training dangerously and the episode after slaughtering & Goku can't stop him. Should be interesting few episodes.
The freeza dynamic and his attitude of kill first ask questions never should make for one of the best things about the tournament..
I can see Freeza torturing other Universe's and possibly uni6 saiyans now that he can't harm uni 7.. This will hammer down uni7 being bad even more
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Post by HeroR » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:16 am

Geekdom101 wrote:
Trust me, I'm DESTROYED over this and everything you just wrote (specially about the Freeza thing) I've thought about. Trust me. The issue why people didn't wait this time is because of all the people, not JUST Youtube people, people from Reddit, VERY SMART fans believed it. VERY smart people.
I know I said I would drop this after my last post, but I wanted to say that what you wrote is worrying. It looks like a minor meltdown happened behind the scenes and the Dragon Ball Youtube community got the short end of the stick. If anything, real or fake, this incident will work as a cautionary tale.

And again, I am not getting on you out of malice. I got on you because I legitimately thought better of you even if I don't get my news from you or agree with you on some subjects. Maybe I did come off as overly harsh, but it was because like you I have a pet peeve about misinformation in any community and the Dragon Ball fandom, unfortunately, is the most prone to these.

But for real this time, I won't comment anymore on this subject. Hopefully we can all move on and learn. :D
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Post by IntoTheFire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:30 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
SansrivaaL wrote:
Gog wrote:
I imagine he'd be shocked to see Freeza alive and kicking at first. And honestly, I can see him ignoring him, and still being suspicious of his activities.
At best I can see Vegeta mocking him with a lil threat, ah the interactions, I want more Goku and Freeza time as well, its rare to see Goku serious all the time against someone.
I wonder how Freeza'll react to more Saiyans in Pan & Bra. But tensions already there from NEP Freeza is training dangerously and the episode after slaughtering & Goku can't stop him. Should be interesting few episodes.
I wish he gets to see them, but at the same time think it's probabably not going to happen. If I were a mother I wouldn't want my kids anywhere near Frieza. Still, it's hilarious thinking of Frieza being surrounded by all these saiyans from 2 universes. :lol:
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Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:57 am

Can you imagine Goku trying to convince the Namekians to let him use their dragon balls to resurrect the guy who blew up their home and commited geneacide on them.

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