"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:09 am

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The FujiTV preview says in the midst of the battle, Freeza comes up with another goal/objectiv

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Post by precita » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:12 am

I wonder if they're going to address the fact of how much weaker Freeza is than Goku. I mean, Goku already completely outmatched Freeza when he transformed into Blue for the first time in the movie. He's now a gazillion times stronger than that. Unless Freeza gets a new transformation or something, it's going to feel rather awkward if they're shown evenly matched when Goku kicked the crap out of him already in his standard Blue form without much effort.

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Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:16 am

precita wrote:I wonder if they're going to address the fact of how much weaker Freeza is than Goku. I mean, Goku already completely outmatched Freeza when he transformed into Blue for the first time in the movie. He's now a gazillion times stronger than that. Unless Freeza gets a new transformation or something, it's going to feel rather awkward if they're shown evenly matched when Goku kicked the crap out of him already in his standard Blue form without much effort.
What Golden Frieza was stated to be stronger than Blue but had stamina issues

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:21 am

Kishido wrote:
precita wrote:I wonder if they're going to address the fact of how much weaker Freeza is than Goku. I mean, Goku already completely outmatched Freeza when he transformed into Blue for the first time in the movie. He's now a gazillion times stronger than that. Unless Freeza gets a new transformation or something, it's going to feel rather awkward if they're shown evenly matched when Goku kicked the crap out of him already in his standard Blue form without much effort.
What Golden Frieza was stated to be stronger than Blue but had stamina issues
Goku and Vegeta haven't been doing nothing in the time since RoF. They trained for 3 years before the U6 Tournament, both Goku and Vegeta vastly improved for the fight against Zamasu. Goku is using the Kaioken on top of Blue regularly now. It's very reasonable to assume they totally outclass Freeza, someone who'd been sealed up in a cocoon doing nothing for all this time.
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Post by Sandubadear » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:21 am

TheSaiyanGod wrote:Feeling Ki was always something basic, and yet Vegeta was only learning after going to Earth.
Freeza was never interested in this, because he only wanted power. I do not think he would want to learn now

Freeza already learned to sense ki during his 4 month training.
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Post by Dpc292 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:02 am

precita wrote:So a scene in today's episode makes it obvious we're going to get a filler where Trunks/Goten defend the island from poachers. You guys think that episode will be any good? Hopefully it isn't too bad.
18 also said that Marron could handle herself there. Also did you all notice how 18 got angry when 17 said Maron instead of marron? Tell me, how was Krillins old girlfriends name spelled again?

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:04 am

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Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:06 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Kishido wrote:
precita wrote:I wonder if they're going to address the fact of how much weaker Freeza is than Goku. I mean, Goku already completely outmatched Freeza when he transformed into Blue for the first time in the movie. He's now a gazillion times stronger than that. Unless Freeza gets a new transformation or something, it's going to feel rather awkward if they're shown evenly matched when Goku kicked the crap out of him already in his standard Blue form without much effort.
What Golden Frieza was stated to be stronger than Blue but had stamina issues
Goku and Vegeta haven't been doing nothing in the time since RoF. They trained for 3 years before the U6 Tournament, both Goku and Vegeta vastly improved for the fight against Zamasu. Goku is using the Kaioken on top of Blue regularly now. It's very reasonable to assume they totally outclass Freeza, someone who'd been sealed up in a cocoon doing nothing for all this time.
I was talking about RoF

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Post by HeroR » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:11 am

TheSaiyanGod wrote: Vegeta has always emphasized how useless the scouters were in relation to the Ability to feel Ki

Freeza, even knowing that, never spoke a word about it.
He never seemed interested in learning to feel Ki.There is nothing that prevents him from learning, just was not told that he learned
Freeza can sense ki in Super. It sensed Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in Episode 26.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:41 am

Well with the current episode and the easy see you later Marron do you think scenes like this lack emotions?

And we still do not have seen neither Videl/Pan and ChChi about all stuff.

I thought they would be more uneasy and emotional saying their goodbyes

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:51 am

Kishido wrote:Well with the current episode and the easy see you later Marron do you think scenes like this lack emotions?

And we still do not have seen neither Videl/Pan and ChChi about all stuff.

I thought they would be more uneasy and emotional saying their goodbyes
It's good they aren't making this more complicated that it should be..

Getting all emotional crying having PTSD befor battles was a new addition and it frankly didn't suit db's established style..
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Post by Kishido » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:53 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
Kishido wrote:Well with the current episode and the easy see you later Marron do you think scenes like this lack emotions?

And we still do not have seen neither Videl/Pan and ChChi about all stuff.

I thought they would be more uneasy and emotional saying their goodbyes
It's good they aren't making this more complicated that it should be..

Getting all emotional crying having PTSD befor battles was a new addition and it frankly didn't suit db's established style..
Still but being a bit more uneasy would be OK ina situation like this.

But well whatever... And I loled at U9 angel... He simply doesn't care anymore

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:12 am

Kishido wrote:Well with the current episode and the easy see you later Marron do you think scenes like this lack emotions?

And we still do not have seen neither Videl/Pan and ChChi about all stuff.

I thought they would be more uneasy and emotional saying their goodbyes
I don't think Marron knows whats up and I don't think they want her to. Goku won't say goodbye because he thinks he will win. Same for Vegeta.

Gohan is actually the only one I can see having an emotional moment in character with Videl. I can see Krillin being worried for his daughter on his own time but not with her.
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Post by precita » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:20 am

I can't even remember the last time Videl appeared in Super. She's screwed over more than Yamcha, Buu and Trunks/Goten all put together.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:25 am

precita wrote:I can't even remember the last time Videl appeared in Super.
Monster Barry arc?
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Post by HeroR » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:00 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
precita wrote:I can't even remember the last time Videl appeared in Super.
Monster Barry arc?
She was in Episode 78.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Nejishiki » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:03 am

Dpc292 wrote:18 also said that Marron could handle herself there. Also did you all notice how 18 got angry when 17 said Maron instead of marron? Tell me, how was Krillins old girlfriends name spelled again?
She is "Maron". Kuririn's daughter, Marron, has a long "a" sound.

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Post by TheSaiyanGod » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:49 am

Kishido wrote:Just for Geekdom

The FujiTV preview says in the midst of the battle, Freeza comes up with another goal/objectiv
True, The preview of FujiTV says this
But neither Quitela nor Sidra went to the 7th Universe, because they can not get directly involved.
In fact, the God of Destruction of the Universe 9 is the only one who is watching the battle, and it looks like he will attack Freeza.

I do not see how Freeza could suddenly go to the Universe 4
HeroR wrote:
TheSaiyanGod wrote: Vegeta has always emphasized how useless the scouters were in relation to the Ability to feel Ki

Freeza, even knowing that, never spoke a word about it.
He never seemed interested in learning to feel Ki.There is nothing that prevents him from learning, just was not told that he learned
Freeza can sense ki in Super. It sensed Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in Episode 26.
Where has Freeza been shown feeling Goku's Ki transformed into SSGSS?

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Post by Yamcha upset fan » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:51 am

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Post by Noah » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:53 am

precita wrote:I wonder if they're going to address the fact of how much weaker Freeza is than Goku. I mean, Goku already completely outmatched Freeza when he transformed into Blue for the first time in the movie.
The movie continuity is not the same as Super.
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