"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[SansrivaaL]

He made everything worse, there was no success. It's like calling slicing one head off a hydra a success.

He succeded in killing Merged Zamasu, while it did make things worst, he was able to do something, unlike Goku who wasnt able to do anything, well in a way that is still a success as it still did something rather than not slicing up anything. at. all.

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It looks so dumb...

Its even more dumb if you read what he's saying.
Zamasu: Why you.... WHY YOU!!!! YOU DAMN SAIYAN! I dont need the universe and this earth anymore! I'll erase you with this damn galaxy all together! WAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Basako]

Why does MZ have the same Aura as ssb,does this indicate his ki is leaking

It doesn't look the same, it looks like Black's SSRose. Maybe it's leaking, could be, that doesn't mean he is weak. Leaking SSB is strong too.

I read he pretends to destroy the galaxy! Cool!!! This chapter is wooaaa!!!!! Amazing.

[Ki Breaker]

For a moment I thought that was goku powering up and not Zamasu..
It dosen't seem like we looking at green abs here

[Kanassa]

He made everything worse, there was no success. It's like calling slicing one head off a hydra a success.

He succeded in killing Merged Zamasu, while it did make things worst, he was able to do something, unlike Goku who wasnt able to do anything, well in a way that is still a success as it still did something rather than not slicing up anything. at. all.

There's still no success because he achieved nothing in his actions. His aim was to save his timeline and he failed.

Its even more dumb if you read what he's saying.
Zamasu: Why you.... WHY YOU!!!! YOU DAMN SAIYAN! I dont need the universe and this earth anymore! I'll erase you with this damn galaxy all together! WAAAAAAAAAAA!

Why do I sudden;y have the image of Shredder from that old TMNT cartoon? "But I don't wanna conquer dimension X, I WANT MY EARRRRRRTH!"

[MathSSJ]

Fair point. I'm just hoping the manga provide more context for why Goku chose now to use the Hakie-eque technique, instead of when before Merged Zamasu happened, but right now it just seem out of left field.

2 possibilities, either it can only be done with a perfected SSJB at a 100% always or Goku doesnt want to resort to killing hence just sealing him away would be good enough but now as things are looking way too bad to control he had to use it.

So I'm hearing Goku can hakai now?

Yes.He.Can.

So why didn't Vegetto do it if his (stupid) plan was to blow up Zamasu so hard he wouldn't be able to regen from it?

For the same reason he didn't atempt SSJ God yet still sandbagged with Blue against Zamasu: Vegetto's stupidity must know no bounds in the DBS manga.

[SansrivaaL]

He succeded in killing Merged Zamasu, while it did make things worst, he was able to do something, unlike Goku who wasnt able to do anything, well in a way that is still a success as it still did something rather than not slicing up anything. at. all.

Lets phrase this in a game way, Trunks achieved killing ningen sized merged Zamasu which unlocked normal Zamasu merging with the universe that also unlocked the secret quest the Zeno button calling Zeno himself. If Trunks hadnt come to Goku and Vegeta's rescue they woulda all been dead since Trunks doesnt know about the button. Manga one had Goku unlock nothing with that hakai stuff, just Mai having a role.

[LightBing]

Zamasu losing his shit is the norm. Toyotarõ is just upping the anger each time. Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Regarding the Haki technique, it's like 100% SSJB it's out-of nowhere but has many plausible explanations for Goku knowing it and why he only used in this moment. It's not nonsense

Does Goku even have an original technique? He should be nicknamed The Copycat.

[Ki Breaker]

Zamasu losing his shit is the norm. Toyotarõ is just upping the anger each time. Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Regarding the Haki technique, it's like 100% SSJB it's out-of nowhere but has many plausible explanations for Goku knowing it and why he only used in this moment. It's not nonsense

Does Goku even have an original technique? He should be nicknamed The Copycat.

He does have his versions of each technique if that can be considered original

[Kanassa]

Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Wait a second, replace Mai with Tien... Jesus christ, every chapter finds a new way to drag other Dragon Ball arcs into this...

[Jigurashi]

Zamasu losing his shit is the norm. Toyotarõ is just upping the anger each time. Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Regarding the Haki technique, it's like 100% SSJB it's out-of nowhere but has many plausible explanations for Goku knowing it and why he only used in this moment. It's not nonsense

Does Goku even have an original technique? He should be nicknamed The Copycat.

The copycat Goku... More fitting than Kakashi's "Copy Ninja" title.

[FortuneSSJ]

Does Goku even have an original technique?

Yes. If ryuken doesn't count, bite his opponents sure does.

[SansrivaaL]

If we count non canon stuff then... Dragon fist? or the monkey fist he pulled against Piccolo daimaou that he never once did again that was probably just a normal punch that had a giant ape on the BG?

[LightBing]

He does have his versions of each technique if that can be considered original

Sure, he improves them but that's not even close to creating something from scratch. I guess he has the Dragon Fist although that's movie exclusive.

Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Wait a second, replace Mai with Tien... Jesus christ, every chapter finds a new way to drag other Dragon Ball arcs into this...

Nice catch, although I don't think it's necessary a reference. Maybe a coincidence, I have to look back at the manga to see if the scenes are similar.

[Cipher]

The moment is very cool, but turning Hakai into an actual technique that can be learned is... odd. I was under the impression once you're very powerful erasing stuff that easily is just a perk, "Hakai" being just added for the coolness.

This is how I've always read it too, and it bothered me a bit that the fanbase tended to emphasize "hakai" (which does not "come from Hakaishin," as an earlier comment suggested, any more than "destroy" comes from "God of Drestruction"), but here we are.

There's still nothing saying it isn't just a particular way of utilizing very powerful ki, but it's decidedly a special technique, rather than just the hakaishin being flashy about killing people.

[Basako]

If we count non canon stuff then... Dragon fist? or the monkey fist he pulled against Piccolo daimaou that he never once did again that was probably just a normal punch that had a giant ape on the BG?

Goku has never invented his own technique, neither Gohan and Trunks, I think. But no big deal, they are good using what they are taught.

And who says Vegeta didn't learn the Final Flash and the Galic Gun from his father. Just saying.

[BlueBasilisk]

Nice catch, although I don't think it's necessary a reference. Maybe a coincidence, I have to look back at the manga to see if the scenes are similar.

It isn't quite the same, Piccolo is holding Tien up by the head rather than by the neck. Granted King Piccolo is also a lot bigger than Zamasu...

[OLKv3]

I really like the leaks, the battle look brutal, and Merged Zamasu finally looks threatening again. I'll need a good explanation for why Vegetto didn't immediately Hakai Zamasu though. Or why Goku didn't Hakai Zamasu earlier.

Trunks being the opportunistic warrior as always and slicing them in half in the middle of their defusion was pretty cool, but it clearly backfires

I also love Manga Merged Zamasu's design, he actually looks like a fusion between Goku and Zamasu, instead of just being Zamasu

[dodonpa]

Only a God of Destruction should be able to perform Hakai. I don't like what Toriyama/Toyotaro did here.

[Doctor.]

Zamasu losing his shit is the norm. Toyotarõ is just upping the anger each time. Zamasu is one of the most frail Villains in all of Dragon Ball, very similar to Piccolo Daimao.

Regarding the Haki technique, it's like 100% SSJB it's out-of nowhere but has many plausible explanations for Goku knowing it and why he only used in this moment. It's not nonsense

Does Goku even have an original technique? He should be nicknamed The Copycat.

You mean he's a Copy... Monkey.

[Kishido]

OK never cares that much for the manga... But now I'm dropping it completely... Goku using Hakai... well no thank you