"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Grimlock » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:37 pm

The gr wrote:It looks like chapter 24 ended here You know what this means
Yeah, I know. It means we are forever stuck in this saga. :roll:

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Post by The gr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:38 pm

SansrivaaL wrote:How in the world did that happen.
By looking at the leaks, Trunks caused This by splitting him on half, killing black but inmortal zamas survived and duplicated himself, similar to cloud Zamasu, this is just a guess
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The gr wrote:It looks like chapter 24 ended here You know what this means
Yeah, I know. It means we are forever stuck in this saga. :roll:
stop exaggerating, this saga might end next month, this is really episode 66-67 with a spin, I'm glad the Manga isn't rushing this unlike the anime
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Post by mikey4111 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:40 pm

Goku using hakai after training with Beerus is too much but Trunk beating fused Zamasu with a random spirit bomb/sword attack fueled by 4 humans and 2 worn saiyans is fine? Ill take the manga over the anime any day. I think the fights are a hell of a lot better and make more sense.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:40 pm

The gr wrote:Image
This looks so cool, Zamasu is so cool
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Post by mikey4111 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:43 pm

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Genkidama sword was bad as hell and I'm still mad at this... Same goes for Ikari.

Still this one is taking the cake... and I'm not only talking about hakai... Something someone as Goku shouldn't have.

Just think of him using it casually like Beerus
He can't use it casually. He has to use MSSB, and then he loses all his energy just by using it once.
Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?

Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.

Some stuff should stay unique to the gods

But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
Beerus is a mortal. May be labeled as a God but he definitely isn't immortal. If Goku can obtain God ki then why can't he use attacks that gods use? Explain

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Post by Abel Taylor » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:48 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Chapter looks good aside from Goku using Hakai, with that he just surpassed Vegetto, so Vegetto being surpassed was part of Toriyamas outline after all.
1) Nothing says "hakai" works against people [far] stronger than you. Goku and Zamasu are both in the same league here.

2) Vegetto was about to wipe Zamasu out completely with a Final Kamehameha.

3) Vegetto dominated the entire fight, whereas Goku and Zamasu are pretty close to each other.

4) If Goku can use "hakai"... so can Vegetto

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Post by The gr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:49 pm

This must be part of toriyama Outline
    Trunks split zamas in half but it causes more problem,mz duplicated himself, all Hope is lost until the godly Zeno button saves the day,I can be the only who noticed the similarity between episode 66-67 to this chapter
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    Post by Simere » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:49 pm

    Kishido wrote: Again... What if he will master it... And do it casually like Beerus?

    Think a bit into the future... Hakai being done by mortals is just bad as Trunks and his healing abilities.

    Some stuff should stay unique to the gods

    But I bet manga Goku will learn Zeno's universe multiveral erasing attack as well
    Gods are nothing but another obstacle to be surpassed, and their techniques can and have been learned.

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    Post by Totamo » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:03 pm

    The gr wrote:This must be part of toriyama Outline
      Trunks split zamas in half but it causes more problem,mz duplicated himself, all Hope is lost until the godly Zeno button saves the day,I can be the only who noticed the similarity between episode 66-67 to this chapter
      so why did the anime go genki dama and universe maker and this goes trunks goes behind and duplications.


      that is a huge difference

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      Post by OLKv3 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:04 pm

      SansrivaaL wrote:How in the world did that happen.
      Trunks sliced them in half in the middle of their defusion.

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      Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:04 pm

      Totamo wrote:so why did the anime go genki dama and universe maker and this goes trunks goes behind and duplications.
      that is a huge difference
      Looking at the similarities between the two, the outline might have just said that Trunks cuts Zamasu in half, which causes him to multiply.

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      Post by The gr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:05 pm

      Totamo wrote:
      The gr wrote:This must be part of toriyama Outline
        Trunks split zamas in half but it causes more problem,mz duplicated himself, all Hope is lost until the godly Zeno button saves the day,I can be the only who noticed the similarity between episode 66-67 to this chapter
        so why did the anime go genki dama and universe maker and this goes trunks goes behind and duplications.


        that is a huge difference
        Still they have the same outcome despite looking different, zamas still duplicated himself in both versions by the split, which mean Zeno is gonna erase zamas in the next chapter like in ep 67
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        Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:09 pm

        Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō sure do love their villains...

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        Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:11 pm

        Steven Bloodriver wrote:Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō sure do love their villains.
        Don't we all :)

        I am curious as to what the outline might have said for both parties to be so different, there are similarities but the differences are more pronounced..
        Not that I am complaining, more Dragonball material for me :lol:
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        Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:11 pm

        Cool battle but still a tone of stuff I dont like.

        Zamasu making tones of copies and bulking up just feel like poor copies of Black's clones and his Grotesque form.

        Also not a fan of Goku Hakiing stuff either. Haki, like Genki power and the Mafuba, is not a simple beam attack or even a more advanced ki ability like the Solar Flare or Disk attacks. You should not just be able to see it and copy it or just suddenly start using it.

        It took Goku a while to master both the Genki Dama and the Mafuba....so why the hell dose he get to pull this power out of his ass?

        The single good thing about this power is that fans who wanted Goku to be able to beat Superman can be really happy. Not only can Goku just seal him away in a jar, he now has the power to just "Haki" the big blue boy scout out of existence!
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        Post by PeanutSaiyan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:11 pm

        Goku using Hakai is a grave sin while Trunks lol spirit sword bombing out of nowhere is ok? Have to love the anime fanboys..

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        Post by Doctor. » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:15 pm

        PeanutSaiyan wrote:Goku using Hakai is a grave sin while Trunks lol spirit sword bombing out of nowhere is ok? Have to love the anime fanboys..
        Nobody has ever defended the spirit sword beyond "cool but nonsensical". I don't see why people keep pushing this narrative.

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        Post by Ki Breaker » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:16 pm

        Lord Frieza wrote: The single good thing about this power is that fans who wanted Goku to be able to beat Superman can be really happy. Not only can Goku just seal him away in a jar, he now has the power to just "Haki" the big blue boy scout out of existence!
        That's what I have been saying!
        Get a hold of this hakai now super man..
        Alright Saitama, you might want to check you legs coz they just got hakaied :lol:
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        Post by The gr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:17 pm

        I'm just gonna wait for an translation for this, because they need to explain hakai, but you know what This means, goku could erase saitama :lol: and is possible manga toppo could use the hakai,it would be cool to see that in the exhibition
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        Post by Ikazvyr » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:19 pm

        Lord Frieza wrote:It took Goku a while to master both the Genki Dama and the Mafuba....so why the hell dose he get to pull this power out of his ass?
        Goku didn't mastered it. Yet. Let's suppose even that he was practicing: he failed using the technique

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