"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:18 am

Goku might start fighting jiren next episode itself, how can that possibly be the final fight
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by sintzu » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:26 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Goku might start fighting jiren next episode itself, how can that possibly be the final fight
Him being the final fighter is just fan speculation. for all we know he'll be the 1st one Goku defeats.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:35 am

sintzu wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:Goku might start fighting jiren next episode itself, how can that possibly be the final fight
Him being the final fighter is just fan speculation. for all we know he'll be the 1st one Goku defeats.
The way it's going that can very well be the case..

I elect goku and hit to take jiren out..
Previous cool guy vs present cool guy, but this time with MC's support!
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

User avatar
Lord Frieza
I Live Here
Posts: 3801
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:36 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:57 am

HeroR wrote:
He didn't tank it since he was tired and was hurt even if it was minor. Tanking me no injures at all and not tired.
Ok well if tanked ain't the right word, I'll just say took a full power hit from Goku with only his cloths getting ripped and bare minimum damage.

And tired?

Image

Dose not look tired to me. As always in DB, Toppo is just getting serious.

User avatar
TheMikado
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5009
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by TheMikado » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:50 am

Jigurashi wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
Jigurashi wrote: Agreed. I'd love to get a Pride Troopers spin off or even a special about them. Seeing all 10 of them interacting with each other would be great.
Idk, I feel like they lack the charisma that the Ginyu force had. Especially like Ginyu and Reecome. I'd say they have the flair down.
Recoome will always hold a special place in my heart. He was a fun villain with one of my favorite fights in the series. I loved when he was just trolling Vegeta by playing the part by acting like he was hurt.
Yeah this is a huge contrast to someone like Jiren or Toppo. They don't even feel like they are in the same league when it comes to individualized personality. I'm really really not feeling Jiren so far as a villain. My favorite villians in Dragonball are over confident and taunt their opponent without being spoiled brats. My favorite being of the main canon being Cell movie villians being Cooler.

User avatar
Lord Frieza
I Live Here
Posts: 3801
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:36 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:55 am

TheMikado wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
Idk, I feel like they lack the charisma that the Ginyu force had. Especially like Ginyu and Reecome. I'd say they have the flair down.
Recoome will always hold a special place in my heart. He was a fun villain with one of my favorite fights in the series. I loved when he was just trolling Vegeta by playing the part by acting like he was hurt.
Yeah this is a huge contrast to someone like Jiren or Toppo. They don't even feel like they are in the same league when it comes to individualized personality. I'm really really not feeling Jiren so far as a villain. My favorite villians in Dragonball are over confident and taunt their opponent without being spoiled brats. My favorite being of the main canon being Cell movie villians being Cooler.
To be fair, your never going to feel that because he's not a villain. He's a the strongest hero from an organisation that protects an entire universe. The Pride Troopers are like DCs Green Lanterns or Marvels Nova Core. He just happens to be the antagonist in this situation.

Edit: Also I just noticed........Jiren has not posed once....

That feels......odd given how everyone else in his team acts.

User avatar
emperior
I Live Here
Posts: 4347
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:52 pm
Location: Dragon World
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by emperior » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:59 am

Why do people want the Pride Troopers to be copies of Ginyu Force? They are fine this way.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”

What I consider canonical

GodKaio-Ken
I Live Here
Posts: 2326
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:00 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:02 am

I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
Currently watching: My Hero Academia

Last watched: Akame Ga Kill, Hokuto No Ken, Hokuto No Ken 2, Hunter X Hunter

Quote if I were to Hakai someone: "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru. Hakai!"

User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:04 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
Goku is going to show him whos the better fighter..

This time around I am hoping for jiren, being the strong guy to look forward to, to actually lose early on..
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

User avatar
emperior
I Live Here
Posts: 4347
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:52 pm
Location: Dragon World
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by emperior » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:05 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
Goku is going to show him whos the better fighter..
This time around I am hoping for jiren, being the strong guy to look forward to, to actually lose early on..
Impossible. It's more likely that Goku will power-up and improve a lot while fighting Jiren, but it doesn't necessarily mean Goku will beat him. We don't even know what kind of abilities Jiren has.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”

What I consider canonical

User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:08 am

emperior wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
Goku is going to show him whos the better fighter..
This time around I am hoping for jiren, being the strong guy to look forward to, to actually lose early on..
Impossible. It's more likely that Goku will power-up and improve a lot while fighting Jiren, but it doesn't necessarily mean Goku will beat him. We don't even know what kind of abilities Jiren has.
It's quite possible actually, he could be taken out by a team effort from hit and Goku as well, either way I don't feel supportive of him being the strongest guy there who they have the last fight with
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

GodKaio-Ken
I Live Here
Posts: 2326
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:00 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:10 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
Goku is going to show him whos the better fighter..

This time around I am hoping for jiren, being the strong guy to look forward to, to actually lose early on..
Top part: I'm really hoping so.

Bottom part: I'm not sure that will happen but it could. As long as they have a good fight ill be happy.


Also FWIW to others - I loved how Goku was like "Let me go greet them" but then with Toppo hes more or less like "Yo what up lil b****." lmao
Currently watching: My Hero Academia

Last watched: Akame Ga Kill, Hokuto No Ken, Hokuto No Ken 2, Hunter X Hunter

Quote if I were to Hakai someone: "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru. Hakai!"

User avatar
Tsufuru
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 497
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:16 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Tsufuru » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:29 am

since when is Jiren a villian.
and why bring up ginyu force? they are completly diffrent kinds of teams.
sometimes you ppl talk to much sh*t tbh.

User avatar
TheMikado
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5009
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by TheMikado » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:30 am

emperior wrote:Why do people want the Pride Troopers to be copies of Ginyu Force? They are fine this way.
I don't, it doesn't matter to me either way. But the Ginyu force was so honestly campy it was enjoyable. Even pure evil guys like Recoome and Captain Ginyu whole heartedly got in on the act. From what we've seen of Jiren he's purposefully designed to be completely uninteresting from his personality to his visual design. Yet we're getting comparisons to the incredibly animated Ginyu force. I'm saying I'm not seeing the comparison other than a group of fighters that happen to pose on occasion.
GodKaio-Ken wrote:I thought Jiren was pretty epic. The part where he just just friggen ends up behind Goku is intense. Especially since Goku knows IT and he was still flabbergasted.
The funny thing about this is that this is literally the EXACT same thing Goku did to the Ginyu force when he first met them. I guess it's a homage, idk?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8i3wnmLW4
Even Recoome is way more interesting in his interactions and posing.

User avatar
Ki Breaker
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 6572
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:15 am
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:34 am

Interesting how a surprisingly large number of people want cauliflowa tortured/dead/spanked/thrown/blown full of holes etc..

It seems like everyone is against her in some way or the other, this much raw hatred for a character is pretty rare..
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker

User avatar
TheMikado
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5009
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by TheMikado » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:38 am

Ki Breaker wrote:Interesting how a surprisingly large number of people want cauliflowa tortured/dead/spanked/thrown/blown full of holes etc..

It seems like everyone is against her in some way or the other, this much raw hatred for a character is pretty rare..
I think that's horrible. They are making her unnecessarily aggressive and uncooperative for no reason, but there series has always had that same issue with powerful female characters. If they are powerful they are automatically bratty @$$holes too... I.e. GT Pan...

This was actually my biggest fear of Super introducing females Saiyans. They would be reduced to that same DB trope of powerful women being uncooperative.

HeroR
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8306
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by HeroR » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:47 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
HeroR wrote:
He didn't tank it since he was tired and was hurt even if it was minor. Tanking me no injures at all and not tired.
Ok well if tanked ain't the right word, I'll just say took a full power hit from Goku with only his cloths getting ripped and bare minimum damage.

And tired?

Image

Dose not look tired to me. As always in DB, Toppo is just getting serious.
Breathing hard and sweating is usually a sign that someone been work. It's best to say that Toppo withstood a Warp Kamehameha, not tank.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

User avatar
perucho1990
I Live Here
Posts: 2361
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:04 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:01 am

I think we already know the first people who will be eliminated:

Ganos, because Goku is already fighting him.

Murichim: He is going for Toppo, and his pun is for Hopeless Universe, it wouldnt make sense if he forces him to fight seriously.

Female Pride Trooper also seemed to be in trouble, i hope they dont have Roshi taking her out because it wouldnt make sense..

User avatar
Lord Frieza
I Live Here
Posts: 3801
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:36 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:33 am

HeroR wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
HeroR wrote:
He didn't tank it since he was tired and was hurt even if it was minor. Tanking me no injures at all and not tired.
Ok well if tanked ain't the right word, I'll just say took a full power hit from Goku with only his cloths getting ripped and bare minimum damage.

And tired?

Image

Dose not look tired to me. As always in DB, Toppo is just getting serious.
Breathing hard and sweating is usually a sign that someone been work. It's best to say that Toppo withstood a Warp Kamehameha, not tank.
Fair enough.

TysonWine
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 213
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:05 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by TysonWine » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:50 am

perucho1990 wrote:Female Pride Trooper also seemed to be in trouble, i hope they dont have Roshi taking her out because it wouldnt make sense..
How would it not make sense? We don't know how strong she is. Every member of a particular universe doesn't have to be Godlike and ever member doesn't have to be fodder. Who's to say her race isn't weaker than humans? Who's to say she got on the team because they only had 48 hours and she was the first to respond? Who's to say she doesn't rely on techniques and trickery to get the job done?

We shouldn't say Roshi/Tien/Kuririn doing well is nonsensical because they're weak compared to the fighters we already know. To be weak or strong are meaningless labels when compared to nothing. Roshi's strong when compared to Bulma. Roshi's weak when compared to Goku. That Pride Trooper ain't Goku.

What you can say is, It may be disappointing if there are a multitude of fighters that Roshi can defeat through raw power, but you can't say it doesn't make sense for Roshi to be able to defeat someone we've never seen fight. Would it make sense for Vegeta to be able to defeat her, is so, why?

Post Reply