perucho1990 wrote:Female Pride Trooper also seemed to be in trouble, i hope they dont have Roshi taking her out because it wouldnt make sense..
How would it not make sense? We don't know how strong she is. Every member of a particular universe doesn't have to be Godlike and ever member doesn't have to be fodder. Who's to say her race isn't weaker than humans? Who's to say she got on the team because they only had 48 hours and she was the first to respond? Who's to say she doesn't rely on techniques and trickery to get the job done?
We shouldn't say Roshi/Tien/Kuririn doing well is nonsensical because they're weak compared to the fighters we already know. To be weak or strong are meaningless labels when compared to nothing. Roshi's strong when compared to Bulma. Roshi's weak when compared to Goku. That Pride Trooper ain't Goku.
What you can say is, It may be disappointing if there are a multitude of fighters that Roshi can defeat through raw power, but you can't say it doesn't make sense for Roshi to be able to defeat someone we've never seen fight. Would it make sense for Vegeta to be able to defeat her, is so, why?
I've been saying a while each team wont have all God level fighters. It wouldnt be logical for so many mortals to have attained that power.
I think its even logical some will be weaker than Buu Arc Goku.....but TOEI may not be logical in this sense so I'm less confident of it.
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Ki Breaker wrote:Interesting how a surprisingly large number of people want cauliflowa tortured/dead/spanked/thrown/blown full of holes etc..
It seems like everyone is against her in some way or the other, this much raw hatred for a character is pretty rare..
I think that's horrible. They are making her unnecessarily aggressive and uncooperative for no reason, but there series has always had that same issue with powerful female characters. If they are powerful they are automatically bratty @$$holes too... I.e. GT Pan...
This was actually my biggest fear of Super introducing females Saiyans. They would be reduced to that same DB trope of powerful women being uncooperative.
Yeah no kidding, she is at least rivalling pan in terms of getting fandom's stink eye..
But pan was pure nonsense and this is nonsense but a little sweetness ( towards kale ) mixed together..
Cauliflowa could still redeem herself if that sweetness is exploited later..
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Ki Breaker wrote:
Yeah no kidding, she is at least rivalling pan in terms of getting fandom's stink eye..
Pan was despised because of how annoying she was. Caulifla isn't really getting that much hate, just the hope that along with her Vegeta-ish tendencies, she also gets Vegeta's karma, or she will get annoying.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Ki Breaker wrote:
Yeah no kidding, she is at least rivalling pan in terms of getting fandom's stink eye..
Pan was despised because of how annoying she was. Caulifla isn't really getting that much hate, just the hope that along with her Vegeta-ish tendencies, she also gets Vegeta's karma, or she will get annoying.
There's something about cauliflowa which makes me entertain the possibilities of maiming her and getting away with it, while with pan they were more along the lines of why exactly is she still existing again..
..Yeah, I think you are right..
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Ki Breaker wrote:
This was actually my biggest fear of Super introducing females Saiyans. They would be reduced to that same DB trope of powerful women being uncooperative.
Yeah no kidding, she is at least rivalling pan in terms of getting fandom's stink eye..
But pan was pure nonsense and this is nonsense but a little sweetness ( towards kale ) mixed together..
Cauliflowa could still redeem herself if that sweetness is exploited later..[/quote]
From what I noticed, the hate started after she went SSJ1 and SSJ2 in the span of five minutes. Though I like GT Pan and she does have a sweet side so I think it's unfair to say she was "pure nonsense"
Ki Breaker wrote:Interesting how a surprisingly large number of people want cauliflowa tortured/dead/spanked/thrown/blown full of holes etc..
It seems like everyone is against her in some way or the other, this much raw hatred for a character is pretty rare..
I'm not surprised. They complained that Gine was too nice, that Kale is too timid and Moe to be a Saiyan, and now that Caulifla is actaully acting like a non-domesticated U7 Saiyan, i.e. a smart-assed ruffian and a braggart, they hate that too. I guess it's fine when Vegeta or Bardock act like that.
BlueBasilisk wrote: I guess it's fine when Vegeta or Bardock act like that.
Because Vegeta and Bardock got karma for their dickisness
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
BlueBasilisk wrote: I guess it's fine when Vegeta or Bardock act like that.
Because Vegeta and Bardock got karma for their dickisness
I'm fully expecting either Gohan or Vegeta to give Caulifla a good old fashioned ass kicking.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Ki Breaker wrote:Interesting how a surprisingly large number of people want cauliflowa tortured/dead/spanked/thrown/blown full of holes etc..
It seems like everyone is against her in some way or the other, this much raw hatred for a character is pretty rare...
I think she pretty much deserve all that hate: became a SSJ in one of the most stupidest ways of the series and then reached SSJ2 5 minutes later, her design is not really impressive, so is she's attitude: a cocky brat just like Pan in GT.
With all that I guess she probably need Freeza to teach her some good manners
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
What's the problem with Caulifla? I can understand disliking her but hating her? That just baffles me. The worst she did was toying with Cabba, which is expected taking into account his pushover personality.
I enjoy her. She's got spunk, she's honest and straightforward.
Let's not underestimate murichim, the meat heads can be quite problematic when they decide to say fuck it all, stop caring about their health and takes you down with them..
Bullza wrote:There will never be a worse Dragon Ball character than the GT version of Pan.
If there is a level of agreement you can have with something, I just crossed that..
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Arrogance has a pretty good track record of backing it up in DB. I wouldn't expect Caulifla to have a poor showing just because she's moderately arrogant.
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I guess it's fine when Vegeta or Bardock act like that.
