How I think they'll handle Goku, Vegeta, Hit, Jiran and Toppo in this tournament.

[TBMx]

There are some 80 characters in this tournament. The fans are expecting a huge battle with tons of complexity but I don't think it's going to happen. I think they're more realistically going to feature one
major fight heavily, and a bunch of chaotic random battles around it with minor characters. This main battle will be Goku vs Jiran. I am basing this prediction on what Toriyama and Toei (especially Toei) have done in the past.

I don't see Hit and Vegeta giving the strongest guy, Jiran, to Goku and just letting them duke it out. Not with their pride. Toppo won't be involved as he indicated he isn't in it to fight Goku or anyone specifically.

I think Jiran is going to eliminate both Hit and Vegeta with ease very soon before Goku fights him. If not next episode then a few episodes from now. Dragonball always does this. Vegeta will attack the strongest guy, get curbstomped, and we'll be all "impressed." They did it with Frieza, Androids, Cell, Buu, Hit, and Black and they'll do it here. They're going to do it to put Jiran over at their expense thus hype up the Goku vs Jiran match. Goku will of course win, as he's anime John Cena. I expect the majority of the budget to go toward that match, instead of spreading it out to other characters as that'd be difficult to manage and keep coherent from a story perspective.

This is what I expect from Toei and Toriyama as it's what they've always done.
Would you be pleased if this happened? Or disappointed?

[Simere]

Lost to Beerus
Lost to Freeza
Lost to Hit
Lost to Zamasu

But he will "of course" win against Jiren. As he was "of course" going to win against Zamasu and Hit.

But if your baseless prediction does happen? I'll be quite pleased, because it's about time.

[TBMx]

How is it baseless when it's undeniably based on Toriyama's writing style? He's a very simple/forumulaic writer who mostly does the same thing over and over. How can Jiran win against Goku when if he does, Goku and his universe gets erased? That'd end the franchise.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

What about Gohan?

[TBMx]

Toriyama already said Gohan wasn't main character material, so while I think he'll go out with credibility, he'll be eliminated.

[MisteryOne]

How is it baseless when it's undeniably based on Toriyama's writing style? He's a very simple/forumulaic writer who mostly does the same thing over and over. How can Jiran win against Goku when if he does, Goku and his universe gets erased? That'd end the franchise.

Simple. Either the Pride Troopers wish for the rest of the universes to come back because it would not be fair for them to just dissapear (or merge them into a single universe), or some plot twist makes someone from U7 who isn't Goku win the tournament by a random way. Considering ROF, the end of Zamasu arc and Monaka as a character, I seriously doubt it's going to be as simple as Goku winning against Jiren because if he doesn't it seems like the cast will be killed. It's exactly tje same thing that happened in BoG, the Zamasu arc and to a lesser extent ROF. Every single Super arc has a plot twist in the ending that allows the cast to survive despite being defeated. If anything, this is not only baseless but also goes agains Toriyama's modern writing. He's not that simple at all.

[Simere]

How is it baseless when it's undeniably based on Toriyama's writing style? He's a very simple/forumulaic writer who mostly does the same thing over and over. How can Jiran win against Goku when if he does, Goku and his universe gets erased? That'd end the franchise.

If he does the same thing, that thing would not be having Goku win. What it would be is having Goku lose but you come away feeling like he won, because Goku never feels defeated by losing. If you actually look at his record against arc villains his win rate is around 30%. It's 0% in Super.

And there's lots of ways Jiren can beat Goku, even beat U7, and still have everyone go on existing.

[BlueBasilisk]

I could see Jiren winning the whole tournament and becoming the new 'someone stronger' for Goku to chase. Adult Goku doesn't have a good record against arc villains or tournaments. Plus, Jiren isn't a villain. He's a super hero fighting to save his universe. Plus, U7 losing would come as a twist thanks to their EoZ plot armor. I think Goku will fall to Jiren but will gain his respect.

[Jigurashi]

I could see Jiren winning the whole tournament and becoming the new 'someone stronger' for Goku to chase. Adult Goku doesn't have a good record against arc villains or tournaments. Plus, Jiren isn't a villain. He's a super hero fighting to save his universe. Plus, U7 losing would come as a twist thanks to their EoZ plot armor. I think Goku will fall to Jiren but will gain his respect.

I think it's up in the air for me personally. Goku could win, but with his track record, it's likely he'll lose. I definitely agree that Jiren will probably respect Goku after their fight.

As for the TC, I do see Goku VS Jiren being the biggest fight in the saga, and I don't see it happening in the next episode or the one after that, but several episodes down the line. Vegeta and or Hitto are likely to job to Jiren to hype him up further. If for example Goku VS Jiren is the final fight, I'd like Goku to win, only because it's predictable for him to lose, but I really won't mind if he loses. However, we don't even know if that'll be the last fight or not. I do see Goku VS Jiren spanning several episodes though (like 3-4).

[emperior]

I think this time the ending will be simple and predictable. Though everything leading to it won't. Much like Namek arc: everyone knew Goku would have beaten Freezer in the end, though it still was full of twists and awesome moments.

In Super, Goku has lost too many times. Toriyama has been so unpredictable that everyone expects him to keep being unpredictable. And he will be, but this time I believe the ending will be the easy one: Goku manages to beat Jiren.

[TBMx]

How is it baseless when it's undeniably based on Toriyama's writing style? He's a very simple/forumulaic writer who mostly does the same thing over and over. How can Jiran win against Goku when if he does, Goku and his universe gets erased? That'd end the franchise.

Simple. Either the Pride Troopers wish for the rest of the universes to come back because it would not be fair for them to just dissapear (or merge them into a single universe), or some plot twist makes someone from U7 who isn't Goku win the tournament by a random way. Considering ROF, the end of Zamasu arc and Monaka as a character, I seriously doubt it's going to be as simple as Goku winning against Jiren because if he doesn't it seems like the cast will be killed. It's exactly tje same thing that happened in BoG, the Zamasu arc and to a lesser extent ROF. Every single Super arc has a plot twist in the ending that allows the cast to survive despite being defeated. If anything, this is not only baseless but also goes agains Toriyama's modern writing. He's not that simple at all.

The Pride Troopers consider Goku to be evil. Yet you say they'd want to bring him back. I doubt it.
Toriyama's writing has been very simple. The Zamasu arc used the same trope. The previous tournament used this same angle. Using Vegeta to put over Goku's opponent is what Toriyama does.

[Simere]

The Pride Troopers consider Goku to be evil. Yet you say they'd want to bring him back. I doubt it.
Toriyama's writing has been very simple. The Zamasu arc used the same trope. The previous tournament used this same angle. Using Vegeta to put over Goku's opponent is what Toriyama does.

And Goku lost, but they prevailed anyway because Hit respected him by the end of the fight. That's what your prediction should be for Jiren: that he'll come to realize Goku isn't evil.

[MisteryOne]

How is it baseless when it's undeniably based on Toriyama's writing style? He's a very simple/forumulaic writer who mostly does the same thing over and over. How can Jiran win against Goku when if he does, Goku and his universe gets erased? That'd end the franchise.

Simple. Either the Pride Troopers wish for the rest of the universes to come back because it would not be fair for them to just dissapear (or merge them into a single universe), or some plot twist makes someone from U7 who isn't Goku win the tournament by a random way. Considering ROF, the end of Zamasu arc and Monaka as a character, I seriously doubt it's going to be as simple as Goku winning against Jiren because if he doesn't it seems like the cast will be killed. It's exactly tje same thing that happened in BoG, the Zamasu arc and to a lesser extent ROF. Every single Super arc has a plot twist in the ending that allows the cast to survive despite being defeated. If anything, this is not only baseless but also goes agains Toriyama's modern writing. He's not that simple at all.

The Pride Troopers consider Goku to be evil. Yet you say they'd want to bring him back. I doubt it.
Toriyama's writing has been very simple. The Zamasu arc used the same trope. The previous tournament used this same angle. Using Vegeta to put over Goku's opponent is what Toriyama does.

Goku being evil doesn't mean the entire U7 is, and I'm pretty sure a group dedicated to justice is clever enough to know that.
Zamasu arc was not writen in a simple way at all. You're confusing simple writing and repeating the trope of Vegeta jobbing to the main enemy. If you thini the ending , and the arc itself, was predictable and simple writing I'm sorry but it isn't. You're speaking about Vegeta jobbing to tje main villain. He also did it against Beerus, yet Goku lost to him. He did it against Hit, yet Goku didn't won againsy hil. He did it again Black, yet he was the one to defeat him and Zamasu was ultimately killed by Zeno. Vegeta also jobbed to Cell back in Z and Goku didn't won against him.

So was is the corelation between Vegeta jobbing, simple writing and Goku winning against Jiren? It doesn't make sense at all.

[Lord Beerus]

Hit and Vegeta will look impressive but then eventually get crushed. I'm certain that Goku and Jiren will be last few contender. The way they've been hyping up a confrontation between Goku and Jiren, and just how much they've been hyping up the Pride Trooper and Jiren in general, makes me believe they have big plans for them in the tournament. Hell, if I could make a secondary bet, I'd say Jiren and/or Toppo would win the whole thing.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I think this time the ending will be simple and predictable. Though everything leading to it won't. Much like Namek arc: everyone knew Goku would have beaten Freezer in the end, though it still was full of twists and awesome moments.

In Super, Goku has lost too many times. Toriyama has been so unpredictable that everyone expects him to keep being unpredictable. And he will be, but this time I believe the ending will be the easy one: Goku manages to beat Jiren.

I really hope so. I'm tired of "Goku loses but its okay because he has friends in high places and hes a likeable guy" schtick.

[julianix]

I can see jiren whoopin Goku and he'll just keep getting up over anf over, showing some semblance of hero spirit he used to have in the past. This will make Jiren and Toppo think differently of goku.

[Zamasu55]

If Goku loses, U7 gets destroyed.
Goku is alive at the end of the manga.

So guess who's winning the ToP?

[Lord Beerus]

If Goku loses, U7 gets destroyed.
Goku is alive at the end of the manga.

So guess who's winning the ToP?

Universe 6.

[Berserker1921]

I have a feeling U6 will win purely because of either botomo or magetta managing to stay on the ring. Everyone is eliminated and champa has the super dragon balls he feels bad for his brother and maybe the other gods. He owes his brother for giving him an earth similar to 7. So I bet he wishes for all the universe destroyed by Zeno to return. Zeno who is happy and doesn't care cause he got to see some awesome battles doesn't stop him.

Then we get to see those 6 universe that were destroyed by Zeno for some reason

[MainJPW]

So guess who's winning the ToP?

Not U7.