"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[perucho1990]

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Anyone noticed this in the preview, lol. As if Magetta stands a chance.
Maybe he's been training, who knows. (Can't tell if That's Toppo or Charizard)

Its the dinosaur guy, I hope Magetta wins, he had a decent performance in the U6 Arc and is more interesting than Cabba, more likeable than Caulifla and Kale IMO.

If Roshi will defeat that girl Pride Trooper, then Magetta should manhandle the dinosaur guy.

[TheMikado]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

[Doctor.]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

There's nothing in Super that outright contradicts the manga. Just because it uses anime elements doesn't mean it doesn't follow the manga's story, because obviously that's what Toriyama writes the outline around. It certainly seems like Toei sometimes takes filler into account but, at the same time, they know when to ignore it (the case of Freeza's Hell, for instance).

[TheDipDap1234]

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Anyone noticed this in the preview, lol. As if Magetta stands a chance.
Maybe he's been training, who knows. (Can't tell if That's Toppo or Charizard)

I'm on #TeamMagetta.

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Anyone noticed this in the preview, lol. As if Magetta stands a chance.
Maybe he's been training, who knows. (Can't tell if That's Toppo or Charizard)

Its the dinosaur guy, I hope Magetta wins, he had a decent performance in the U6 Arc and is more interesting than Cabba, more likeable than Caulifla and Kale IMO.

If Roshi will defeat that girl Pride Trooper, then Magetta should manhandle the dinosaur guy.

We don't know if Roshi is fighting the female pride trooper. The NEPs can be misleading sometimes.

[GodKaio-Ken]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

Not really but its just my opinion. He went to Yardrat in the manga too...we dont see them but that doesnt imply they look any different off panel in the manga.

Now if there was a manga Yardrat vs anime Yardrat difference and they choose the anime version it would be a different story.

[Makai]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

[dragon boss z]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

The super anime is a continuation of Kai if anything.

[GodKaio-Ken]

So I was just thinking...if Earth really was moved to U6 in the Champa arc U7 would be toast and U6 would be pretty OP.

[Lord Frieza]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

There's nothing in Super that outright contradicts the manga. Just because it uses anime elements doesn't mean it doesn't follow the manga's story, because obviously that's what Toriyama writes the outline around. It certainly seems like Toei sometimes takes filler into account but, at the same time, they know when to ignore it (the case of Freeza's Hell, for instance).

Mikado...why man, I mean really?

Have years of people yelling "GT is not cannon" scared you that much that you must at every potential opportunity try to "Decannonise" Super? Plenty of fans dont see it as any more cannon then GT, thats their choice for their own reasons. So what exactly will you, or anyone else for that matter, really gain from this?

Also as Doctor has pointed out there is nothing here that is even solid enough to try this again. Yardrat and its people are part of the manga but are never seen or physically described. If Toriyama and Toei want to base their design off of the filler they OK'd years ago, thats their choice and it will become the official design for the race. And again I must state until someone says "That Kale looks like Broly" we cant have that talk yet.

[Hellspawn28]

I don't mind the long wait that we have for this arc. The other arcs in DBZ had a long wait for them and people didn't mind that.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I don't mind the long wait that we have for this arc. The other arcs in DBZ had a long wait for them and people didn't mind that.

Well... sort of, but not really. The pace of this arc is far slower than anything we got from the Z era. At least if we're comparing with the original manga, which at its slowest, still had something pertinent happening most of the time. If you're comparing to the Z anime... well, that's irrelevant, since the source material was always ahead and available.

[HeroR]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

Z doesn't have a manga. It's all Dragon Ball. And Super doesn't continue the Z anime since none of Z's afterlife filler is used in Super.

[precita]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

Z doesn't have a manga. It's all Dragon Ball. And Super doesn't continue the Z anime since none of Z's afterlife filler is used in Super.

Super is still marketed as a direct continuation from DBZ, it doesn't matter if filler is referenced or not. 90% of the time filler was never referenced again in DBZ either after it happened, with the exception of how Hell was portrayed.

[HeroR]

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

Z doesn't have a manga. It's all Dragon Ball. And Super doesn't continue the Z anime since none of Z's afterlife filler is used in Super.

Super is still marketed as a direct continuation from DBZ, it doesn't matter if filler is referenced or not. 90% of the time filler was never referenced again in DBZ either after it happened, with the exception of how Hell was portrayed.

Because Dragon Ball Z is popular, which is why Kai exists but no uncut version of the original Dragon Ball anime. and Super still doesn't directly continue it outside the basic the story, which is the same rather you watched Z, Kai, or read the manga.

[dbgtFO]

Since we got a Yardratian, I wonder, if they will finally reveal a Metamorian (the guys who taught Goku the Fusion Technique).

[Makai]

So hears a legitimate question. Does Goku essentially canonizing the filler yadrats from the anime give more credence to the idea that Super is a continuity of the anime and not the manga? Because more and more evidence is certainly building. We had pages of how that wouldn't be the case, yet it happened, we also stand a small chance of canonizing Broly too if he gets a mention, what will that mean for the Super continuity?

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

Z doesn't have a manga. It's all Dragon Ball. And Super doesn't continue the Z anime since none of Z's afterlife filler is used in Super.

Um, yes, it was called Z during the Buu saga in the manga.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Um, yes, it was called Z during the Buu saga in the manga.

Untrue. It was just Dragon Ball for the entire 520 chapter run.

[YonedgeHP]

The Super anime is a continuation of the Z anime, the Super manga is a continuation of the Z manga.

Z doesn't have a manga. It's all Dragon Ball. And Super doesn't continue the Z anime since none of Z's afterlife filler is used in Super.

Um, yes, it was called Z during the Buu saga in the manga.

Uhm, actually it wasn't. Some of the US's releases had the Z on it, but it's not in the manga on almost all mediums.

[Bullza]

It would definitely seem like Super followed the Kai continuity instead of Z especially as it aired directly after it.

From memory the things in Super like Gregory, Mr Satan's two lackeys and Bulma's reference to the Ginyu Frog incident and even the Ginyu Frog being on Earth....all that was included in Kai.

Now whether anything exclusive to Z's filler has been part of Super, I honestly can't recall anything. Princess Snake, Goz and Mez, Pikkon, the other Kai's, Grand Kai etc they haven't been in Super and they very easily could have because Pikkon could have been mentioned as part of the team.

They didn't even reference the Yo Son Goku OVA this time around.

[dragon boss z]

It would definitely seem like Super followed the Kai continuity instead of Z especially as it aired directly after it.

From memory the things in Super like Gregory, Mr Satan's two lackeys and Bulma's reference to the Ginyu Frog incident and even the Ginyu Frog being on Earth....all that was included in Kai.

Now whether anything exclusive to Z's filler has been part of Super, I honestly can't recall anything. Princess Snake, Goz and Mez, Pikkon, the other Kai's, Grand Kai etc they haven't been in Super and they very easily could have because Pikkon could have been mentioned as part of the team.

They didn't even reference the Yo Son Goku OVA this time around.

Exactly, the only problem is that the hell filler is in kai 2014 for a bit. I don't now why they left it in there...I guess we just have to ignore those scenes, lol.