Who really is the definitive Son Goku?

[Dbzfan94]

I can't believe I am saying this but
Masako Nozawa is the one..

How and when it happened I don't really know, just a while ago I was wondering when the dub will start so I can hear my real Goku and here I am now, not even following the dub anymore..

Idk about you, but I'm waiting for the RF arc to finish before I start watching the dub again.

[DragonBallKing]

As someone who likes both Sean and Nozawa for different reasons. Nozawa is the definitive voice, like Conroy is to batman but even more than that because since 1986 no other Japanese VA has voiced the character in animation or video games.

[cheddarsword]

Maybe it's because my biggest exposure to Nozawa is Super, but I can't bring myself to consistently enjoy her. It's so grating in my ears half the time. I'm not denying her abilities though, as I cannot give enough praise to her Black.

So that being said I'm going with Sean Schemmel. Even at his worst I still enjoy his voice and hearing him improve over time as time goes on is fun. I know this a very unpopular opinion on here, but to me Sean Schemmel will always be Adult Goku.

Now BLACK i prefer Sean's portrayal in Xenoverse 2 (pre-rose). I like Nozawa for Goku, but frankly, they overuse her voice. I get why they do that for Black, but Bardock, Turles and Gohan? overexposure. In my own opinion anyway.

[ABED]

Tullece and Bardock look exactly like Goku

[Ki Breaker]

I can't believe I am saying this but
Masako Nozawa is the one..

How and when it happened I don't really know, just a while ago I was wondering when the dub will start so I can hear my real Goku and here I am now, not even following the dub anymore..

Idk about you, but I'm waiting for the RF arc to finish before I start watching the dub again.

I gave up on the dub all altogether..
I just don't feel it anymore..

[Dbzfan94]

Maybe it's because my biggest exposure to Nozawa is Super, but I can't bring myself to consistently enjoy her. It's so grating in my ears half the time. I'm not denying her abilities though, as I cannot give enough praise to her Black.

So that being said I'm going with Sean Schemmel. Even at his worst I still enjoy his voice and hearing him improve over time as time goes on is fun. I know this a very unpopular opinion on here, but to me Sean Schemmel will always be Adult Goku.

Now BLACK i prefer Sean's portrayal in Xenoverse 2 (pre-rose). I like Nozawa for Goku, but frankly, they overuse her voice. I get why they do that for Black, but Bardock, Turles and Gohan? overexposure. In my own opinion anyway.

I wasn't a big fan of Sean's Black. It sounded too much like Batman but I hope he fixes it up for the actual Super dub. I agree on voicing too much but I actually prefer her Adult Gohan to Adult Goku.

Back when the Black arc was on, I remember hearing something about the reason Gohan and Goten rarely showed up is because it would be too hard on her. To me that says they should recast at least Goten.

[8000 Saiyan]

Maybe it's because my biggest exposure to Nozawa is Super, but I can't bring myself to consistently enjoy her. It's so grating in my ears half the time. I'm not denying her abilities though, as I cannot give enough praise to her Black.

So that being said I'm going with Sean Schemmel. Even at his worst I still enjoy his voice and hearing him improve over time as time goes on is fun. I know this a very unpopular opinion on here, but to me Sean Schemmel will always be Adult Goku.

Now BLACK i prefer Sean's portrayal in Xenoverse 2 (pre-rose). I like Nozawa for Goku, but frankly, they overuse her voice. I get why they do that for Black, but Bardock, Turles and Gohan? overexposure. In my own opinion anyway.

Bardock and Gohan are family, and Turles looks like him, so I can understand why they decided to use her for those roles. Sure, they could have casted Bardock, Gohan and Turles with different actors, but she has the acting ability to play them well.

[cheddarsword]

Maybe it's because my biggest exposure to Nozawa is Super, but I can't bring myself to consistently enjoy her. It's so grating in my ears half the time. I'm not denying her abilities though, as I cannot give enough praise to her Black.

So that being said I'm going with Sean Schemmel. Even at his worst I still enjoy his voice and hearing him improve over time as time goes on is fun. I know this a very unpopular opinion on here, but to me Sean Schemmel will always be Adult Goku.

Now BLACK i prefer Sean's portrayal in Xenoverse 2 (pre-rose). I like Nozawa for Goku, but frankly, they overuse her voice. I get why they do that for Black, but Bardock, Turles and Gohan? overexposure. In my own opinion anyway.

Bardock and Gohan are family, and Turles looks like him, so I can understand why they decided to use her for those roles. Sure, they could have casted Bardock, Gohan and Turles with different actors, but she has the acting ability to play them well.

Oh i understand WHY they use her, I just think it sounds... strange. Bardock and Gohan shouldn't sound exactly like Goku. SImilar, fine, but they didn't have her alter her voice.

It's like using Brad Swaile for Amuro and Quatre. Put them together and it's like he's got two different personalities that are talking to each other. His portrayal of Setsuna however, fixes that problem. The same goes for Brian Drummond voicing both Milliardo AND HEERO in Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3. He did such a good job differentiating the characters that it sounded like two different VAs. He did a damn fine Heero no less.

I'm not saying Masako Nozawa is a bad VA, she's VERY good. I just think that the directors should have at least had her differentiate somewhat.

[8000 Saiyan]

Now BLACK i prefer Sean's portrayal in Xenoverse 2 (pre-rose). I like Nozawa for Goku, but frankly, they overuse her voice. I get why they do that for Black, but Bardock, Turles and Gohan? overexposure. In my own opinion anyway.

Bardock and Gohan are family, and Turles looks like him, so I can understand why they decided to use her for those roles. Sure, they could have casted Bardock, Gohan and Turles with different actors, but she has the acting ability to play them well.

Oh i understand WHY they use her, I just think it sounds... strange. Bardock and Gohan shouldn't sound exactly like Goku. SImilar, fine, but they didn't have her alter her voice.

It's like using Brad Swaile for Amuro and Quatre. Put them together and it's like he's got two different personalities that are talking to each other. His portrayal of Setsuna however, fixes that problem. The same goes for Brian Drummond voicing both Milliardo AND HEERO in Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3. He did such a good job differentiating the characters that it sounded like two different VAs. He did a damn fine Heero no less.

I'm not saying Masako Nozawa is a bad VA, she's VERY good. I just think that the directors should have at least had her differentiate somewhat.

I think Swaile did a great job as Amuro and Quatre.

[cheddarsword]

Bardock and Gohan are family, and Turles looks like him, so I can understand why they decided to use her for those roles. Sure, they could have casted Bardock, Gohan and Turles with different actors, but she has the acting ability to play them well.

Oh i understand WHY they use her, I just think it sounds... strange. Bardock and Gohan shouldn't sound exactly like Goku. SImilar, fine, but they didn't have her alter her voice.

It's like using Brad Swaile for Amuro and Quatre. Put them together and it's like he's got two different personalities that are talking to each other. His portrayal of Setsuna however, fixes that problem. The same goes for Brian Drummond voicing both Milliardo AND HEERO in Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3. He did such a good job differentiating the characters that it sounded like two different VAs. He did a damn fine Heero no less.

I'm not saying Masako Nozawa is a bad VA, she's VERY good. I just think that the directors should have at least had her differentiate somewhat.

I think Swaile did a great job as Amuro and Quatre.

Not my point. Masako does a good Gohan. But when you have two characters that sound the same, things can get confusing. Especially when the characters are in the same Anime.

I suppose Swaile was a bad example. The only time Amuro and Quatre were in the same game (that came to the US) was Gundam Battle Assault 2. I have fond memories of that game...

Anyway, try watching an episode of Super with your eyes closed and see how easily you can tell a difference between Gohan and Goku. You'll see how easy it is to imagine Gohan shouting KAIOKEN!

It's just a personal gripe of mine.

[Doctor.]

It's obviously Henrique Feist. Duh.

But in all seriousness, it's clearly Nozawa. Toriyama's opinion of her should be enough to cement her as the "definitive" Goku.

[VegettoEX]

Anyway, try watching an episode of Super with your eyes closed and see how easily you can tell a difference between Gohan and Goku.

It's fairly easy. They don't speak the same way, and there's a different tone/register of voice.

I wonder: have you actually tried doing this yourself with a scene you're not already familiar with? I kinda guarantee it's easier than you think it is if you actually take this same test you're proposing.

[8000 Saiyan]

Anyway, try watching an episode of Super with your eyes closed and see how easily you can tell a difference between Gohan and Goku. You'll see how easy it is to imagine Gohan shouting KAIOKEN!

While it's easy to tell Nozawa voices Goku and Gohan, she's able to differentiate their tones and styles of speaking. That's why she's such a great actress.

I don't know why some people always forget these subtle differences.

[Bansho64]

Oh i understand WHY they use her, I just think it sounds... strange. Bardock and Gohan shouldn't sound exactly like Goku. SImilar, fine, but they didn't have her alter her voice.

Um, her voice is altered. Each voice has a different tone. There's especially a clear difference between Goku and Gohan. The softness, the differences in how they speak, etc. Bardock and Turles also sound different from Goku as well. I'd suggest listening to it again because, while the voices are similar, they did have her alter her voice slightly so that each character sounded different.

[TheGreatness25]

The only voices that Masako Nozawa does that I'd say sound identical are the kids (Goku, Gohan, Goten). Adult Goku has more of a giggly in-your-face voice (it makes sense to me, damn it lol), Gohan has a more innocent, soft voice, Burdock and Turles always had a more aggressive voice.

Is it possible that there are times where the voices overlapped? Sure -- especially when screaming and especially when angry. But when speaking normally, each adult voice sounds different.

I get the idea that it's not necessary for every male in Goku's family -- or who even looks like him -- to be voiced by the same actor, but it's not like it's the same exact voice. It's kind of like Chris Sabat's Vegeta and PIccolo. There are times where those voices overlap. In fact, that makes even less sense for Sabat to play Yamucha, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc. than one actor playing a family. There are times where Nail sounded like Goku in the dub. Why is this such a problem with the Japanese version?

[ekrolo2]

The one who gets killed by Superman (twice).

[cheddarsword]

Anyway, try watching an episode of Super with your eyes closed and see how easily you can tell a difference between Gohan and Goku.

It's fairly easy. They don't speak the same way, and there's a different tone/register of voice.

I wonder: have you actually tried doing this yourself with a scene you're not already familiar with? I kinda guarantee it's easier than you think it is if you actually take this same test you're proposing.

Heh, guess I did it again. Ah well. At least I tried to tone it down a bit this time. Not sure I succeeded in doing that, but I did try.

Still though, kinda feels like you always single me out...

The one who gets killed by Superman (twice).

Masako X. Goku's VA from Dragon Ball Z Abridged.

[Lord Beerus]

The one who gets killed by Superman (twice).

Don't you start...

[ahill1]

Wendel Bezerra is the best Goku... absolutely no contest!

[AloversGaming]

Masako Nozawa;

English dub doesn't even use his full name, so they can't be the real SON Goku