How do Beerus and Whis(DBZ Movies) stack up in DBS Anime?

[RichardKing2]

Lets say that the movie versions of Beerus and Whis were to be put into the Dragon Ball Super Universe.

Realistically, how would they stack up in Dragon Ball Super? In terms of how they would compare in terms of strength to Hit, SSBKKX10 Goku, Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black, etc

Basically, do you think the movie versions of the characters, if transferred into the DB Super anime, would still be seen as ridiculously strong..even when taking into account the current arc of DB Super?

[sintzu]

They're the exact same characters. Toriyama wrote the new arcs as continuations to the movies so nothing changed from RF to Champa.

[Asura]

Not sure I understand what you're asking. They're the same in the movies as they are in Super, except for Beerus being more hostile/less hostile depending on which version you watch.

[DHM211]

Didn't Whis say in Battle of Gods that Beerus was using 70% of his power against SSJGod Goku? If thats the case then movie Beerus would most likely be outclassed by Goku and Vegeta, amongst other villains and characters.

[RichardKing2]

Not sure I understand what you're asking. They're the same in the movies as they are in Super, except for Beerus being more hostile/less hostile depending on which version you watch.

They're the exact same characters. Toriyama wrote the new arcs as continuations to the movies so nothing changed from RF to Champa.

They're the exact same characters. Toriyama wrote the new arcs as continuations to the movies so nothing changed from RF to Champa.

I'm talking in terms of strength, guys. Third poster understood the question. As said here in the OP

In terms of how they would compare in terms of strength to Hit, SSBKKX10 Goku, Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black, etc

Basically, do you think the movie versions of the characters, if transferred into the DB Super anime, would still be seen as ridiculously strong..even when taking into account the current arc of DB Super?

In terms of power, the DBZ versions are definitely not as strong as the beefed up as the DBS versions. Well, Beerus anyway.

[Bullza]

In the movie Beerus was only 66% stronger than Super Saiyan God Goku.

Whereas Beerus in Super from the looks of it is stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku using Kaioken x10 and Fusion Zamasu when he had the Halo. So he's literally many times stronger than the movie version.

[dbgtFO]

In the movie Beerus was only 66% stronger than Super Saiyan God Goku.

Whereas Beerus in Super from the looks of it is stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku using Kaioken x10 and Fusion Zamasu when he had the Halo. So he's literally many times stronger than the movie version.

Or SSG Goku is just much weaker in Super.

[Bullza]

Or SSG Goku is just much weaker in Super.

Could be, he's still supposed to be above Fusion like in the movie though, he doesn't have to be as much stronger than it I suppose.

Still with the anime and manga version having them be a threat to the entire Universe unlike the movie where that just wasn't said, I'd be more inclined to say they just powered them up for the Super version.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Or, as I have speculated, using Kaio-ken x10 in SSJB form is unstable and doesn't actually increase his power by 10 times.

Anyway, DBS Beerus should easily defeat his movie version, just because he has so many more useful techniques.

[OLKv3]

I think Goku got nerfed and BoG Beerus is the same as DBS Beerus. Goku being nerfed adds up with everyone being able to hang with normal/SSJ Goku later on in DBS

[Saiyan007]

I think Goku got nerfed and BoG Beerus is the same as DBS Beerus. Goku being nerfed adds up with everyone being able to hang with normal/SSJ Goku later on in DBS

How could Goku be nerfed when he and Beerus were threatening the very fabric of universe 7 reality?The best thing we got I the movie was Beerus threatening to destroy a solar system which doesn't even compare what Goku and Beerus did in the show.

Nowhere in the BOG movie did they ever show that kind of power.DBS Goku & Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their movie counterparts by an astronomical difference

[OLKv3]

I think Goku got nerfed and BoG Beerus is the same as DBS Beerus. Goku being nerfed adds up with everyone being able to hang with normal/SSJ Goku later on in DBS

How could Goku be nerfed when he and Beerus were threatening the very fabric of universe 7 reality?The best thing we got I the movie was Beerus threatening to destroy a solar system which doesn't even compare what Goku and Beerus did in the show.

Nowhere in the BOG movie did they ever show that kind of power.DBS Goku & Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their movie counterparts by an astronomical difference

That was Beerus threatening the fabric of the universe, not Goku. All Goku did was learn how to nullify it. People misconstrue that scene so damn much. Otherwise the universe would be in danger with every fight Goku has since BoG.

[Lord Beerus]

I think Goku got nerfed and BoG Beerus is the same as DBS Beerus. Goku being nerfed adds up with everyone being able to hang with normal/SSJ Goku later on in DBS

How could Goku be nerfed when he and Beerus were threatening the very fabric of universe 7 reality?The best thing we got I the movie was Beerus threatening to destroy a solar system which doesn't even compare what Goku and Beerus did in the show.

Nowhere in the BOG movie did they ever show that kind of power.DBS Goku & Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their movie counterparts by an astronomical difference

That was Beerus threatening the fabric of the universe, not Goku. All Goku did was learn how to nullify it. People misconstrue that scene so damn much. Otherwise the universe would be in danger with every fight Goku has since BoG.

Actually, Beerus was the one who nullified the energy during their fist clashes. Goku had no idea how to nullify the energy in their beam clashes and fist clashes in the BOG arc.

[OLKv3]

How could Goku be nerfed when he and Beerus were threatening the very fabric of universe 7 reality?The best thing we got I the movie was Beerus threatening to destroy a solar system which doesn't even compare what Goku and Beerus did in the show.

Nowhere in the BOG movie did they ever show that kind of power.DBS Goku & Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their movie counterparts by an astronomical difference

That was Beerus threatening the fabric of the universe, not Goku. All Goku did was learn how to nullify it. People misconstrue that scene so damn much. Otherwise the universe would be in danger with every fight Goku has since BoG.

Actually, Beerus was the one who nullified the energy during their fist clashes. Goku had no idea how to nullify the energy in their beam clashes and fist clashes in the BOG arc.

No it was Goku, the whole time he was figuring out how to counter the destructive waves

[Lord Beerus]

That was Beerus threatening the fabric of the universe, not Goku. All Goku did was learn how to nullify it. People misconstrue that scene so damn much. Otherwise the universe would be in danger with every fight Goku has since BoG.

Actually, Beerus was the one who nullified the energy during their fist clashes. Goku had no idea how to nullify the energy in their beam clashes and fist clashes in the BOG arc.

No it was Goku, the whole time he was figuring out how to counter the destructive waves

Yep. I remembered wrong. Elder Kaioshin does explain in Episode 12 that Goku erased Beerus' attack (a punch) by matching it with a punch of the exact same speed and angle. But it's in Episode 13 where Beerus use 100% of his power to nullify all the energy present after their beam struggle ended in a huge explosion and prevented the Earth and several neighboring planets will become collateral damage, which would have been the result if Beerus destroyed Goku’s energy from his Kamehameha.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I would put DBS Beerus above DBZMovie Beerus just for the solely fact that the former has "measureable" feats and not fanwanking assumptions like the later.

[SuperDragoon]

DBS Beerus is far more powerful than his movie counterpart. He and Goku could create multi-galactic shockwaves throughout the universe in Super while in the movies all that was stated is that he could destroy a solar system, something Super Perfect Cell could do. Same goes for Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, and Whis.

[Meshack]

Didn't Whis say in Battle of Gods that Beerus was using 70% of his power against SSJGod Goku? If thats the case then movie Beerus would most likely be outclassed by Goku and Vegeta, amongst other villains and characters.

Beerus didn't use 70% of his power the entire fight. I'm sure there's no difference in power. Same person.

[Meshack]

DBS Beerus is far more powerful than his movie counterpart. He and Goku could create multi-galactic shockwaves throughout the universe in Super while in the movies all that was stated is that he could destroy a solar system, something Super Perfect Cell could do. Same goes for Goku, Vegeta, Freeza, and Whis.

I'm pretty sure Kaioh said he could destroy the universe earlier in the movie. What you're referring to, Whis said if he was offended, the entire solar system would be destroyed. He wasn't talking about his full power.

[Meshack]

I think Goku got nerfed and BoG Beerus is the same as DBS Beerus. Goku being nerfed adds up with everyone being able to hang with normal/SSJ Goku later on in DBS

How could Goku be nerfed when he and Beerus were threatening the very fabric of universe 7 reality?The best thing we got I the movie was Beerus threatening to destroy a solar system which doesn't even compare what Goku and Beerus did in the show.

Nowhere in the BOG movie did they ever show that kind of power.DBS Goku & Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their movie counterparts by an astronomical difference

Beerus did not threaten to destroy the solar system. Whis told Gokuh, Bulma, Vegeta, and the others if Beerus was offended, they would be destroyed along with the entire solar system. Whis wasn't referring to Beerus's full power just that if he was offended, they would die along with others in the solar system just for being offended. Kaioh said earlier in the movie that Beerus could destroy the universe.