"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by TheOne » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:55 pm

sintzu wrote:
TheOne wrote:I wonder if Vegeta is going to be the trigger for Kale..?

Not gonna lie, is be pissed if Kale rings out Vegeta. The only one in that universe that could give him trouble is Hit. Hopefully we get a Hit vs Vegeta rematch at some point.
He probably is. If you don't know this, there was a statue (a key chain maybe ?) of him fighting her in a Japan toy expo.

There's no way she's taking him out, I'll be surprised if she gives him much truble once he uses SsjB and that's if he uses it. Vegeta is someone who can beat up both Black and Golden Freeza which is something not many in that tournament can do.

In terms of Vegeta going after U6, it makes sense. He knows how to get rid of Botamo, he beat Frost, Cabba and Maggeta before so he can do it again, He knows where he went wrong with Hit so he's also possible to take down & the 2 new Saiyans to him are probably on Cabba's level so they're not worth worrying about either.

I understands why some people don't get why he's going after them but it makes sense. They're not there for a friendly fight, it's for survival so he, like Freeza are making it clear to everyone that they're there to survive and anyone who's not from their universe is their enemy and has to go as quick as possible. Vegeta isn't an idiot, he knows he's not the strongest person there and he knows Freeza can't be trusted so he's going to take as many down as possible before he himself goes down which will make things easier for Goku once he's alone in the ring.
perucho1990 wrote:Kale tranforms into that 2nd form that was drawn by Yamamuro, which puts her in Blue level.
I think that's her normal Ssj form while Lssj is what she uses when things get bad.
When it says that he goes after, I Think he'll likely go after Hi. Vegeta has a soft spot for Cabba, and I can actually see Cabba being the reason he gets knocked out the tournament down the road. Whether it's to protect him from Frieza or someone else. I just find it hard to see Vegeta picking on Cabba after he essentially changed his life.

I can also see Cauli trying to pick a fight with U7 Saiyans and finds out she's just a big fish in a little pond. Hence why she probably seeks Goku out as a sensei down the road.

I just don't want them to over embellish how strong Kale will be. I still feel super saiyan 2 should be plenty to knock her out.
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Post by TheOne » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:09 pm

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TheDipDap1234 wrote:Oh boy, I don't think many Vegeta fans would like seeing him getting eliminated this early, even if the person that eliminates him resembles Broly.

I think a fight between Vegeta and Kale will happen in episode 101, but it will get interrupted by another fighter before any of them could get tossed out of the ring. This is a battle royal after all.
For me it feels like they plan to have a small role for Vegeta this arc, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him knocked out of the ring this early.

I could see an interrupted Vegeta vs Kale fight.
There's no way their number 2 guy is getting knocked out this early. There's probably 6-12 people in that arena who can compete with him (assuming the top 2 of each universe are near ssb level).

I'm pretty sure the last thing we saw before they arrived at the tournament was Vegeta looking at Bulma. He's fighting for something. Vegetas role this arc in general was reduced due to all the introduction and character building for all the other fighters. Just because he played a small role in the beginning doesn't mean he's going to have a small role during tournament time.
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Post by perucho1990 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:16 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Universe 10 seems like trash. Gowasu should have revived Goku Black. Either way, your universe is f'd.
Not only strength-wise but also their warriors have the worst designs by far imo.

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Vegeta defeating Kale would erase the stench Movie 8 did to him.

If Brianne is Jirens counterpart then he probably has another transformation that puts her on Blue level, Magical Girls with the Power of Friendship are very broken.

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Post by alakazam^ » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:22 pm

Jigurashi wrote:I wouldn't include Gohan or Piccolo in that "closest" thing. It's really just Goku, Vegeta, and Freeza.
Sure but Piccolo already fought under him and he interacted with Gohan because of him being the team leader. That's "closer" than the twins, for example.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:28 pm

If Vegeta starts shit talking Kale the way he did Cabba during the U6/7 tourney, I think she's gonna go off on him hard. Cabba got under her skin by calling her worthless and pathetic. Sounds an awful lot like something Vegeta would say, especially if he was mad. I wonder if that was foreshadowing?

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Post by dragon boss z » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:29 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:If Vegeta starts shit talking Kale the way he did Cabba during the U6/7 tourney, I think she's gonna go off on him hard. Cabba got under her skin by calling her worthless and pathetic. Sounds an awful lot like something Vegeta would say, especially if he was mad. I wonder if that was foreshadowing?
Possible, but I would rather of Kale go off because of Frieza ruthlessly torturing Caulifla. It would make the transformation more needed. Cabba pretty much went ssj in the last tournament from Vegeta bad mouthing, it would be boring if the same thing happened again. It would also be poetic that Frieza caused another "legendary supper saiyan".

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Post by shadowmaria » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:34 pm

All I want is for Kale (whilst transformed) to hear Vegeta call Goku Kakarot, and believe that to be his name...

I can imagine it now; Legendary Super Saiyan (/ Super Saiyan Berserker) Kale yelling KAKAROTTO :twisted:

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Post by Araki » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:26 pm

I seriously doubt Vegeta will lose so early and to someone from U6. Besides, won't he fight Brianne? That doesn't seem to be happening just yet.
I'm betting he's gonna go down against a Pride Trooper, not necessarily Jiren.

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Post by TheOne » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:35 pm

Araki wrote:I seriously doubt Vegeta will lose so early and to someone from U6. Besides, won't he fight Brianne? That doesn't seem to be happening just yet.
I'm betting he's gonna go down against a Pride Trooper, not necessarily Jiren.
The only pride trooper who could go toe to toe with Vegeta aside from Jiren is Toppo. He made it clear that the next person above him is Jiren.

Unless Frieza fights Toppo (which is also possible) I don't think Vegeta could lose to anyone else. I'm pretty sure Toppo and Vegeta will be pretty even.
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Post by MagmonKai » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:39 pm

Did anybody notice how upset the Zenos were when it looked like Goku was ringed out? The others who got knocked out they were happy about it. The Zenos are definitely Goku fanboys lol...

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Post by DBZ Macky » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:11 pm

MagmonKai wrote:Did anybody notice how upset the Zenos were when it looked like Goku was ringed out? The others who got knocked out they were happy about it. The Zenos are definitely Goku fanboys lol...
Haha, they looked more disappointed than upset. They are definitely Goku-tards but I think they'd be just as disappointed if someone like Toppo was ringed out without even using 0.025% of his actual power.
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Post by Jigurashi » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:27 pm

MagmonKai wrote:Did anybody notice how upset the Zenos were when it looked like Goku was ringed out? The others who got knocked out they were happy about it. The Zenos are definitely Goku fanboys lol...
Yup. They love Goku. They might even beat Bulma as Goku's biggest fans.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:20 am

I know the Future Trunks saga is old news, but I wonder if Goku Black is from a timeline were Universe 7 lost to Universe 6. It could explain why Future Trunks didn't warn to stop Black since Earth in U7 is not the same Earth that Trunks is from. Trunks went back in time and sees a dead planet while U7's Earth is now in Universe 6.
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Post by The_Destroyer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:19 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:I know the Future Trunks saga is old news, but I wonder if Goku Black is from a timeline were Universe 7 lost to Universe 6. It could explain why Future Trunks didn't warn to stop Black since Earth in U7 is not the same Earth that Trunks is from. Trunks went back in time and sees a dead planet while U7's Earth is now in Universe 6.
Wouldn't work because Beerus took Goku to fight Zamasu, which was the trigger for him to become Goku Black

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Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:20 am

BlueBasilisk wrote:If Vegeta gets cocky and runs off on his own, I think he's going to get ganged up on and overwhelmed, and that's how he'll be taken out.
I don't think that'll ring him out but it will probably teach him to not go out on his own again.
TheDipDap1234 wrote:Oh boy, I don't think many Vegeta fans would like seeing him getting eliminated this early, even if the person that eliminates him resembles Broly.
Of course we don't and I doubt Goku and the others will want that either.
Chuquita wrote:It feels like they plan to have a small role for Vegeta this arc, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him knocked out of the ring this early.
Remember the Black arc ? everyone said he'd have a small role because he wasn't promoted that much and he ended up beating Black so I wouldn't worry about his role here.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Universe 10 seems like trash. Gowasu should have revived Goku Black. Either way, your universe is f'd.
Can someone who was erased by Zeno even be brought back ?
TheOne wrote:I'm pretty sure Toppo and Vegeta will be pretty even.
If anything I can see Vegeta jumping out of the ring with him as a last resort to take him out. He'll of course lose by doing that but he will have also taken out U11's 2nd strongest fighter.
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Post by precita » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:52 am

I wonder if this early Vegeta focus really does imply an early knockout for him. Would make sense if they want to focus on Gohan and Freeza more, and to a lesser extent 17 since they bothered to bring him back out of obscurity.

I'd honestly laugh though if Vegeta goes before either Roshi or Tenshinhan do.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:00 am

precita wrote:I wonder if this early Vegeta focus really does imply an early knockout for him.
He got early focus in the Champa arc and ended up taking out 3 of their men and fighting the last one.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:19 am

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precita wrote:I wonder if this early Vegeta focus really does imply an early knockout for him.
He got early focus in the Champa arc and ended up taking out 3 of their men and fighting the last one.
Yeah am not sure what people's obsession with Vegeta getting knocked out or humiliated is. Dude is the second main player. The reason probably is he wasn't in the recruitment arc much and once Jiren vs Goku starts that is gonna be the main event so get some Vegeta shine in before then.

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Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:35 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Yeah am not sure what people's obsession with Vegeta getting knocked out or humiliated is.

Dude is the second main player.
You'd think everything he's done since Super started would be enough to prove it won't happen but I guess not. He'll last till the end like always and when the next arc is announced we'll start the whole (Vegeta won't do much this time) speculation again.

And will continue to be till the end of Super at least.
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Post by Simere » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:47 am

I don't know about Vegeta going out early, but assuming he'll always be the deuteragonist is setting yourself up for a satisfying fall. I mean, a painful fall.

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