The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Berserker1921]

Gods stomp horribly, each GoD can solo their team.

You think Belmod can beat Toppo, Jiren, and the others at once?

If he can't someone else such as universe 12 or 1 will assist him. Three of these guys nearly destroyed the whole arena. Made up of the strongest material in all of the multiverse.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Gods stomp horribly, each GoD can solo their team.

You think Belmod can beat Toppo, Jiren, and the others at once?

If he can't someone else such as universe 12 or 1 will assist him. Three of these guys nearly destroyed the whole arena. Made up of the strongest material in all of the multiverse.

We don't know that. There could be something stronger.

[Berserker1921]

You think Belmod can beat Toppo, Jiren, and the others at once?

If he can't someone else such as universe 12 or 1 will assist him. Three of these guys nearly destroyed the whole arena. Made up of the strongest material in all of the multiverse.

We don't know that. There could be something stronger.

Knowing toriyama they're will be. But as of now. I don't see the 80 warriors defeating the 8 gods. I would give it 30-50% they might succeed. But if you meant all the gods. Those chances go down to 5-10%

[Roronoa-pt]

New match:

Goku (cannot use Blue + Kaioken) vs. Trio De Dangers

Goku powers up to SSJ3 and uses his speed to knock out Lavender with one blow, make him unable poison.
Uses Instant Transmission to go near Basil and shoots a Kamehameha to destroy him.
After this, Goku powers down to his base form ( see NEP ) and defeats Bergamo after a good fight.

IT doesn't work without energy sensing

In my understanding, he can use the technique if he sees the location he wants to teleport to, he only need to sense KI if he's not seeing the location.

[Ki Breaker]

Goku powers up to SSJ3 and uses his speed to knock out Lavender with one blow, make him unable poison.
Uses Instant Transmission to go near Basil and shoots a Kamehameha to destroy him.
After this, Goku powers down to his base form ( see NEP ) and defeats Bergamo after a good fight.

IT doesn't work without energy sensing

In my understanding, he can use the technique if he sees the location he wants to teleport to, he only need to sense KI if he's not seeing the location.

That's fanon mate..
Only thing that has been stated is he needs ki to IT, and every instance he did use IT matches up with that..

[apex_pretador]

Gods stomp horribly, each GoD can solo their team.

You think Belmod can beat Toppo, Jiren, and the others at once?

Unless Belmod is significantly weaker than Beerus, anyone except these two would be a non-factor to him, and Toppo isn't all that impressive, considering he was unable to beat Goku in blue.

Toppo < Blue Goku <= Freeza << Beerus

So, it is basically Jiren vs Belmod. And I believe GoD's are above Jiren otherwise beerus would not be so calm when Whis mentioned about a "mortal equal to a GoD" in a universe.

[Berserker1921]

The gods of destruction vs warrior. Equal power to person they're fighting.

1. Ivan vs Roshi?
2. Helles vs 18?
3. Mosco vs Magetta?
4. Kitera vs Krillin?
5. Arak vs Piccolo?
6. Champa vs Buu?
7. Beerus vs Cell?
8. Liqueur vs Black?
9. Sidra vs Frieza?
10. Ramon vs Toppo?
11. Vermond vs Hit?
12. Gene vs Broly?

[mcdjbeatz]

IT doesn't work without energy sensing

In my understanding, he can use the technique if he sees the location he wants to teleport to, he only need to sense KI if he's not seeing the location.

That's fanon mate..
Only thing that has been stated is he needs ki to IT, and every instance he did use IT matches up with that..

What about in BOG when Goku was fighting Beerus in the cave in his base after recently having dropped out of his SSJG form and used instant transmission twice, even though Beerus stated that Goku had absorbed the power of SSJG into his body which was why he could still hold his own against Beerus. He shouldn't have been able to sense Beerus' ki because it was established earlier on that Goku couldn't sense Beerus in his base and having the power of a god in his base shouldn't change that. Which means that Goku must be able to use IT to a location that he can see.

[Zamasu55]

Lilibeu vs Piccolo Daimao.

Napapa vs Perfect Cell.

Cocotte vs Ssj Goku (Androids saga), Ssj Vegeta (Androids saga) and Ssj Trunks (Androids saga).

[dragon boss z]

Lilibeu vs Piccolo Daimao.

Napapa vs Perfect Cell.

Cocotte vs Ssj Goku (Androids saga), Ssj Vegeta (Androids saga) and Ssj Trunks (Androids saga).

- Probably Lilibeu. I don't think anyone in the tournament of power would be as weak as Piccolo Daimao.

- Not a lot to go off of, but I would put my money on Cell.

- When 18 and Cocotte clashed it looked like 18 was a bit stronger so I will go with the saiyans if they use teemwork. Also she most likely doesn't have infinite stamina which was one of the reasons Vegeta was having so much trouble against 18.

[Noah]

New matches:

- Nararirama vs. SSJ2 Teen Kid Gohan
- Basil vs. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
- Jiren vs. Beerus (70% full power)

[Zamasu55]

New matches:

- Nararirama vs. SSJ2 Teen Kid Gohan
- Basil vs. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
- Jiren vs. Beerus (70% full power)

- No clue.
- Basil one-shots him. Even though he's no match for Good Buu, there's no way he's below Cell Games Goku, no way.
- Jiren is the mortal Whis was talking about in my opinion, thus he beats him even at full strenght.

[dragon boss z]

New matches:

- Nararirama vs. SSJ2 Teen Kid Gohan
- Basil vs. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
- Jiren vs. Beerus (70% full power)

- No clue.
- Basil one-shots him. Even though he's no match for Good Buu, there's no way he's below Cell Games Goku, no way.
- Jiren is the mortal Whis was talking about in my opinion, thus he beats him even at full strenght.

Buu was just playing with Basily. Basily could be weaker than namek ssj Goku and it wouldn't contradict anything. Buu was even stronger than roided up Basily, and good Buu is only high buu saga ssj2 tier in terms of raw power. So roid Basil would also be around ssj2 tier imo, and I wouldn't put regular Basil any higher than buu saga ssj tier.

[dragonball0900]

SSJ False Goku vs Kibito

Who wins?

[Ki Breaker]

Current
Golden freeza vs Vegeta

[MisteryOne]

In my understanding, he can use the technique if he sees the location he wants to teleport to, he only need to sense KI if he's not seeing the location.

That's fanon mate..
Only thing that has been stated is he needs ki to IT, and every instance he did use IT matches up with that..

What about in BOG when Goku was fighting Beerus in the cave in his base after recently having dropped out of his SSJG form and used instant transmission twice, even though Beerus stated that Goku had absorbed the power of SSJG into his body which was why he could still hold his own against Beerus. He shouldn't have been able to sense Beerus' ki because it was established earlier on that Goku couldn't sense Beerus in his base and having the power of a god in his base shouldn't change that. Which means that Goku must be able to use IT to a location that he can see.

Anime version of Super stated that in order to feel the Ki of a God you need to reach a certain level. That's why, as the Oracle Fish said, Vegeta could feel Whis returning to Beerus planet. So if you go by that logic, having the power of a God on his base would definetly change it. I don't agree about IT needing to sense Ki anyway, but I just wanted to point itn

[MisteryOne]

Some random battles. I'm curious about what do you guys think about the power of certain Super's characters.

Super Saiyan Goku Black (Pre-Zenkai) vs Super Vegetto (Buu arc)

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Buu arc Super Saiyan Goku/Vegeta/Gohan (No inmortality, only one Saiyan at the same time)

Super Perfect Cell vs Basil

Toppo vs Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black

Lavender vs Magetta

Hit (Manga) vs Goku Black Super Saiyan

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Botamo (Would this battle end at some point?)

[Zamasu55]

Some random battles. I'm curious about what do you guys think about the power of certain Super's characters.

Super Saiyan Goku Black (Pre-Zenkai) vs Super Vegetto (Buu arc)

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Buu arc Super Saiyan Goku/Vegeta/Gohan (No inmortality, only one Saiyan at the same time)

Super Perfect Cell vs Basil

Toppo vs Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black

Lavender vs Magetta

Hit (Manga) vs Goku Black Super Saiyan

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Botamo (Would this battle end at some point?)

- Ssj Vegito slaughters him.
- Future Zamasu is Ssj2 tier, so he should be able to win.
- Could go either way.
- Could go either way, but Black does get stronger everytime he's hit. He's got this advantage.
- Magetta wins. He's immune to poison and without that Lavender is nothing, he'd lose to Base Gohan.
- Hit of course.
- I don't remember if Botamo (manga) had the same abilities as his anime counterpart. If he does, then there's nothing Zamasu can do.

[MisteryOne]

Some random battles. I'm curious about what do you guys think about the power of certain Super's characters.

Super Saiyan Goku Black (Pre-Zenkai) vs Super Vegetto (Buu arc)

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Buu arc Super Saiyan Goku/Vegeta/Gohan (No inmortality, only one Saiyan at the same time)

Super Perfect Cell vs Basil

Toppo vs Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black

Lavender vs Magetta

Hit (Manga) vs Goku Black Super Saiyan

Future Zamasu (manga) vs Botamo (Would this battle end at some point?)

- Ssj Vegito slaughters him.
- Future Zamasu is Ssj2 tier, so he should be able to win.
- Could go either way.
- Could go either way, but Black does get stronger everytime he's hit. He's got this advantage.
- Magetta wins. He's immune to poison and without that Lavender is nothing, he'd lose to Base Gohan.
- Hit of course.
- I don't remember if Botamo (manga) had the same abilities as his anime counterpart. If he does, then there's nothing Zamasu can do.

- So you think Base Vegetto in the Buu arc is stronger than a SS3? Interesting.
- In the manga there is no implication of Zamasu being SS2 tier IIRC. He trashed SS Goku and was later defeated by SSG, but Goku thought his SS form was enough to handle him the first time (and was defeated because of his abilities). I was wondering if the SS from Boo arc standed a chance if they somehow managed to avoid the paralysis.
- You think SS Black is weaker than SSG Goku?
- Botamo in the manga is invulnerable as well, but unlike in the anime it's actually possible to hit him. It's pretty much the same but you can touch him. I trough Zamasu would win because of not getting exhausted, but it can go either way I suppose.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Legendary Super Saiyan God Broly vs. True Golden Frieza.

2) Gogeta Blue (Universal Survival Saga) vs. Demon God Shroom.